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4/7/08 at 4:46pm
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

We were actually introduced to Donna in the "Runaway Bride" episode. One of the Christmas eps.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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We were actually introduced to Donna in the "Runaway Bride" episode. One of the Christmas eps.

Ah yes, but in the Titanic ep, we are also introduced to someone close to Donna, even though you wouldn't get the connection until you watch the Season 4 opener one after the other.

Pretty neat. It's one of the highlights of the "Partners In Crime" Doctor Who Confidential.

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Ah yes, but in the Titanic ep, we are also introduced to someone close to Donna, even though you wouldn't get the connection until you watch the Season 4 opener one after the other.

I finally saw the "Confidential" and, yes, that was pretty cool.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

but, did they just bring back the same actor or was he intentionally Donna's Grandfather all along?

or did they make him Donna's Grandfather after, the death of the actor that played Donna's father?

I watched confidental and I took it as bringing the same actor back and then saying he was Donna's grandfather. But NEVER ORIGINALLY Donna's Grandfather.

*EDIT*

I forgot I had Voyage of the Damned on dvd, and I checked the characters name, Wilfred Mott.
Which is the same character name from Partners in Crime.
So it looks like they made him Donna's Grandfather after the fact and not originally intended.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Has this aired in the US?

I notice that the BBC America schedule still shows them on the previous series.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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Has this aired in the US?

I notice that the BBC America schedule still shows them on the previous series.

Patrick, new episodes air on Sci-Fi Channel first. First one wil be next Friday. Sarah Jane starts tonight, also on Sci-Fi.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Rick, thanks for the information.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Re: Fires of Pompeii - very good episode with a HUGE scale for a Doctor Who ep. Actually filmed on the set of HBO's Rome series in Italy. Special effects were top notch, great bits of humor - always carry a water pistol! -and some insight on just how tough it is to be a Time Lord when it comes to making hard decisions. Played into some of the themes presented at the end of "Runaway Bride" actually, and a bit of the role Donna is playing as his companion right now.

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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Fires of Pompeii

I enjoyed it too.
But I watched it with no subtitles, and some of the dialogue did most fast.
So it looks like I'll just wait for the DVD.

And didn't the guy with the stone arm say something to the Doctor about

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Rose returning


Doctor Who Confidential also looks to be good, as it's the on the set location of Fires of Pompeii. With lots of great scenic tours
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4/13/08 at 1:26pm
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

The historical accuracy nitpicker in me started bleating about the plot details (e.g. the impossibility of even a prosperous merchant's daughter having a dress dyed in purple, the inaccuracy of the sequencing of the volcanic eruption, etc). But once I shut up the nitpicker, I greatly enjoyed the episode. That's two good ones on the trot. And I loved the jokes about the translation device. The mistaking them for Welsh is of course an in-joke because the series is made in Wales.

Incidentally, if anyone wants a good historical novel that accurately goes through what actually happened at Pompeii, there's a marvellous book by Robert Harris called (imaginatively enough) Pompeii. Strongly recommended.
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4/13/08 at 6:48pm
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

I finally had a chance to watch the whole Confidential for this episode. It seems like they pretty much shot the whole budget for the season on this one show :-) . I guess I will have to rewatch FoP to catch all of the injokes - apparently they loaded it with gags.

Having visited Pompeii myself in the early 90s, it was cool to see the tour David Tennant took through the original ruins.

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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Are all the SciFi reruns of the show clipped for time? I remember when I first saw "Voyage of the Damned" at least two scenes missing from last night. 1)The Doctor claims he was present at Christ's birth, and 2)Astrid saying "OK" to the Doctor's "You should see me in the morning."

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4/20/08 at 4:56am
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Didn't see the Sci-Fi version, but recorded it. May have to compare. Just rewatched VotD from last year's BBC airing with my sister-in-law.

Also watched the new ep "Planet of the Ood." Good story, with more on where the Ood came from, why they are "subserviant", with more drama than action and humor (although there is plenty of both.)

Catherine Tate, when she isn't screeching, is a very good actor.

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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

another solid episode.
I really enjoyed Planet of Ood

I didn't mind the more dramatic feel of the episode.

I also liked the moment when Donna's dream was slightly shattered when the space traveling isn't as glorious as she thought it was going to be and wanted to go home.

I'm also starting on the old Doctor Who radio dramas which I'm really enjoying.
Currently listening to Stones of Venice
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

For starters:Tim McInnerny for the win! Of course I havent seen him in anything since Black Adder, but holy smokes he's old!

"Percy, you wouldn't know what a brain looked like even if you coughed one up into your hands!"

I like how Donna is shaping up as a companion, someone to constantly challenge the Doctor.

And its good to see that the Simpsons is still popular even in the Second Great and Bountiful Human Empire!

Not as good as the Fires of Pompeii, but still some good stuff!

(Oh, and huzzah for the Sensorites namecheck!)
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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Are all the SciFi reruns of the show clipped for time? I remember when I first saw "Voyage of the Damned" at least two scenes missing from last night. 1)The Doctor claims he was present at Christ's birth, and 2)Astrid saying "OK" to the Doctor's "You should see me in the morning."

Oh, the US market BUTCHERS the show. During the end of Last of the Time Lords, they cut out most of the coda with Martha calling up folks she met when she walked the Earth, and jumped right to her in the TARDIS. Utterly shameful!
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

I liked Planet Of Ood too. Donna is shaping up to be a very good Companion.

Next week
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Martha
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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I also liked the moment when Donna's dream was slightly shattered when the space traveling isn't as glorious as she thought it was going to be and wanted to go home.

Yes, I like the fact that she is realizing that hanging with the Doctor is not like going on holiday around the Med. She should have realized it when he wiped out those spider babies in Runaway Bride. In FoP, she had to agonize with him about the fate of the Pompeii victims, then helped clarify his suspicions about the Oods. Part of it, I guess, is the fact that the character is more mature and practical. I like it.

The first episode with the cute, blobby alien babies set us up....

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4/22/08 at 2:04am
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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Oh, the US market BUTCHERS the show. During the end of Last of the Time Lords, they cut out most of the coda with Martha calling up folks she met when she walked the Earth, and jumped right to her in the TARDIS. Utterly shameful!
To be fair, I believe the production team cut LOTTL themselves. They made the show knowing the extended episode would have to be cut for international screenings - in fact, I think RTD in the podcast comnmentary actually made comments that "this scene will be cut" (the Scissor Sisters dance scene, for one example). I know that here in NZ we got the cut version.
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4/22/08 at 10:53am
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

* IDIOT WARNING, IDIOT WARNING *

Sorry for the intrusion, but I've been curious about something for awhile. Wasn't the U.S. originally a year behind? I seem to recall that series 1 and 2, at least were shown a year after they premiered in the U.K. How did we catch up, and had we, by series 3 (with the very attractive, I might say, Martha Jones)?


Again, sorry for the disruption, but this has been bugging me.
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

The reason we were so behind is that it took over a year for the BBC to find a US broadcaster. Series 2 was shown here a few months after its UK transmission. Last year, Series 3 started on Sci-Fi just after it had concluded in the UK, so it's no surprise that we're all caught up now.
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4/28/08 at 11:08am
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Alright, can somebody enlighten me as to if:
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Rose's (Billy Piper) cameo at the end of episode Partners in Crime
has any significants.

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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Daryl,

YEP! just wait. the answer will be coming very soon
The even hinted to it in the episode Fires of Pompeii

The Sontaran Stratagem - Part 1

I really wasn't feeling this episode. But it's nice to see
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Martha Jones
I liked
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Martha's
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So far I am pretty impressed with series 4. Donna has made a great foil for the Doctor.
Good to see
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Martha back and even an appearance by Rose
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

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Daryl,

YEP! just wait. the answer will be coming very soon
The even hinted to it in the episode Fires of Pompeii

The Sontaran Stratagem - Part 1

I really wasn't feeling this episode. But it's nice to see
Warning Spoiler! Click to show
Martha Jones
I liked
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Martha's
evil version
Awesome. I loved Rose (Billie Piper) as a companion (BTW Billie Piper will be in her own show "Diary of a Call Girl" coming this June on Showtime). I was weary of Cathrine Tate as his new companion (didn't care for her character in "Runaway Bride") but she wasn't too bad this past episode.

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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

Diary of a Call Girl with Billy Piper.
Looks like I'll have to add another show to my TV list
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Diary of a Call Girl with Billy Piper.
Looks like I'll have to add another show to my TV list

It was quite a good series, with some funny moments. That'd be Billie Piper though.

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5/1/08 at 9:48am
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Re: Doctor Who Season 4: April 5th!

During the final bit, was anyone else shouting: 'Break the window, break the window' at the screen? Instantly I was thinking that while the Sonic Screwdriver couldnt get past the deadlock, it should work just fine on the window (like what he did to the window in Torchwood One back in Army of Ghosts).

Great episode - I loved all the little non-canon bits that were cannonized (the planet was named Sontar in one of the Target novels), and I loved how UNIT still uses the codename Trap 1 for the radio. And the Sontaran ships were still round one-man spheres.

Oh - and I though the whole "I worked with them in the 70's - or was it the 80's" was a nice nod to continuity problems

And Donna was great. She's smart enough to keep up with the Doctor, and she got to fly the TARDIS. What other companion (well, aside from Romana) got to do that? And Tegan doesnt count since it was the Master's pre-programing at work instead.

Great episode! Cant wait for next week.
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That'd be Billie Piper though.
Yep, Sorry. I meant to say Billie. I corrected the spelling above.

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During the final bit, was anyone else shouting: 'Break the window, break the window' at the screen?

Me! Why isn't a brick or stone around when you need it?

I loved seeing UNIT again. And I'm with Captain Jack - I want one of those red berets.

It was also good to see the Sontarans again.

Evil Martha is great!
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