" I think it's time we go to plan B". "What's plan B?" "That's the one where we don't do something stupid".
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Originally Posted by allprolab
I am brand new to HDMI and would like to not be one of the fools. So can you inform someone like me what would be considered the proper HDMI cables? Is spending more pointless?
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--ignore the man behind the curtain
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Originally Posted by allprolab
Well I think I ripped myself off. I bought a hdmi monster cable for $70. I truly had no idea I was paying too much. It's a rookie mistake I'm not making again.
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Originally Posted by allprolab
Well I think I ripped myself off. I bought a hdmi monster cable for $70. I truly had no idea I was paying too much. It's a rookie mistake I'm not making again.
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" I think it's time we go to plan B". "What's plan B?" "That's the one where we don't do something stupid".
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Originally Posted by Mjorgensen
I could hear things different be it the sharpness of the voices or the sizzle of the high hat. There are even bass notes that are muddy with some, thin with others and then some that seem to get it just right.
People can argue all day about how cables are all the same and I for one believe there is a limit I am willing to pay for a cable for anything. The fact is though I "think" I an hear differences and if the cable is not too expensive for me I would buy it. The other reason I like nice cables is because this is also a hobby, the same way people buy polished aluminum parts for the car or fancy wheels. This just shows your taste and pride in your choices. It is not always about performance but choice. |
" I think it's time we go to plan B". "What's plan B?" "That's the one where we don't do something stupid".
I know enough to know I don't know enough!
| The other reason I like nice cables is because this is also a hobby, the same way people buy polished aluminum parts for the car or fancy wheels. This just shows your taste and pride in your choices. |
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Originally Posted by Mjorgensen
Well each person has their own take on cables in general but I have been able to hear differences in cables when I have tried them back to back. Granted it was not a double blind test but the changes were there for me. The cheaper cables like the ones that come with the equipment were "dull" compared to better cables such as the Monsters. I have even been able to demo a couple super high end MIT and Transparent audio and video cables loaned to me by a store.
I could hear things different be it the sharpness of the voices or the sizzle of the high hat. There are even bass notes that are muddy with some, thin with others and then some that seem to get it just right. People can argue all day about how cables are all the same and I for one believe there is a limit I am willing to pay for a cable for anything. The fact is though I "think" I an hear differences and if the cable is not too expensive for me I would buy it. The other reason I like nice cables is because this is also a hobby, the same way people buy polished aluminum parts for the car or fancy wheels. This just shows your taste and pride in your choices. It is not always about performance but choice. |
| I do wish people were more honest about this sort of thing, and admit that they're buying based on looks, without trying to claim "superior" performance. |
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| The mind is a tricky thing and even if I know there isn't ANY difference in performance I'm willing to pay a bit more |
| Fixed it!! . |
(im-proper use of the banana but who gives a s#$%&) Besides, you only fixed the cause. The effect is still there. Or is it the other way around? . I'm so confused 
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Originally Posted by RobertR
What it shows is that you like the "jewelry" aspect of High End Audio, as in "Look at me! See how pretty my stuff is! See how much money I have to spend!"
I do wish people were more honest about this sort of thing, and admit that they're buying based on looks, without trying to claim "superior" performance. |
| it does make you an A** for saying I do it to "impress" people. |
| Buying audio "jewelry" doesn't have to be done to impress others. It's no less jewelry if you do it to show yourself your "taste and pride in your choices. |
). I consider my Swans (as well as most of my other stuff) to be "audio jewelry" because I enjoy looking at them almost as much as I enjoy listening to them. As for cables, even though I have some Monoprice stuff, as well as a few others and a couple of Standard Monster Cables, I usually spend a little more for them than that because I'm at the point in my life where I like having nicer things in my house whenever possible. If someone else thinks that's a waste or is "stupid" it doesn't bother me any. I like to buy things that tickle all the senses, not just the ones they were designed for. BTW, I also have two classic cars with lots of aluminum and chrome that I polish on occasion. Not because I'm trying to impress anyone (including myself) but just because I enjoy doing it . Just like I enjoy putting together a nice HT, including cables.
| I have to say that I really don't understand the problem with this audio jewelry thing (unless you have no taste or personal pride ). I consider my Swans (as well as most of my other stuff) to be "audio jewelry" because I enjoy looking at them almost as much as I enjoy listening to them. |
) but I think you read a lot more into it then what was actually meant. And there's a big difference between a "boutique" cable and a "nice" one. The reason I put myself into this is because I also buy what I think are "nice" cables. AR, Blue Jeans, and yes the occasional entry level Monsters, among others. And not because they perform any better but because it "looks" like they are made from better materials. Kinda like shinier chrome | . shiny chrome looks nice on a car, but does anyone say it improves horsepower or decreases 0-60 time?) |
. Also, who says less expensive cables= cheap cables . You can get some damn fine looking cables for a third or even less, than what Monster charges. Look, it's great to have a shielded/no interference cable that can transmit covert top secret spy communications. Or a cable that has a test of 500 pounds of strength so you can go swinging through your neighborhood like Spider-Man. However, at the end of the day, none of that super-duper bullshit matters. As long as the cables do what they are supposed to do. Which is to give me optimum performance.
" I think it's time we go to plan B". "What's plan B?" "That's the one where we don't do something stupid".
| Here's something I've never done. When someone comes to my house and I show off my system, I don't take them to the back where everythings hooked up and say "look at those cables I have there |
| If it makes some feel better to know those expensive cables are back there, so be it. It makes me feel better to know I get the same quality performance and have spent hundreds less. I take pride in saving money |
| Also, who says less expensive cables= cheap cables |
| As long as the cables do what they are supposed to do. Which is to give me optimum performance. |
. I'm gone for the rest of the day. Happy Easter, everyone!
| Absolutely! But, particularly with analog cables, do we really know we're getting optimum performance from cheap (excuse me) in-expensive cable? I don't. |
| Can't get any "cheaper" than coat hangers. |
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| I'm willing to spend a few bucks more for Blue Jeans or PartsExpress |
