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3/30/08 at 11:41am
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Re: The Mist

your beliefs don't make the ending lame, it makes the ending disagreeable to you because of your beliefs.

i thought it was a very good ending,
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it was horrible, but this was a horror film.
the ending should be horrific.


they must have been driving for hours and who knows how far they drove and all of the terrible things they saw they we weren't privy to seeing.

this movie was classic twilight zone and if this was a TZ ep the end would be thought of as one of the best of the series.

i watched the last 30 minutes or so with the color turned off and i think that added to the mood that i had for the last part of the film.

for me this would have been a perfect horror film if there was a bit less of the woman calling this the end of days and god was watching her and anyone
who became a follower.
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3/30/08 at 11:44am
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Re: The Mist

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Well, aside from my personal beliefs -
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there is no situation that merits suicide, and the ending/preventing another's suffering justification for assisted suicide/murder is even more horrible

Jason, i agree with what you say. My beliefs in such a matter would seem to echo yours. However, in such a situation i cant say our hero (someone else) was thinking the way we would.
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I could never do that, in that kind od situation. I sure as hell wouldnt kill my kids! Now if i was the burned guy...hell yea, someone kill me. Put me out of my misery. He was in agony, and wouldnt live anyway, but they didnt kill him. He had to die in pain...once again, go figure, cause these people just ran out of gas. They were still healthy, they had options if they just slowed down to think of them. At least find another car before you run out of gas! But, i know from personal experience, people dont think rational in times of crisis. Seeing monsters the size of skyscrapers sure would be a time of crisis!
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3/30/08 at 11:49am
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Re: The Mist

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your beliefs don't make the ending lame, it makes the ending disagreeable to you because of your beliefs.

i thought it was a very good ending,
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it was horrible, but this was a horror film.
the ending should be horrific.


they must have been driving for hours and who knows how far they drove and all of the terrible things they saw they we weren't privy to seeing.

this movie was classic twilight zone and if this was a TZ ep the end would be thought of as one of the best of the series.

for me this would have been a perfect horror film if there was a bit less of the woman calling this the end of days and god was watching her and anyone
who became a follower.

I agree with all of that. Nice post Tony.
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3/30/08 at 1:01pm
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Re: The Mist

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your beliefs don't make the ending lame, it makes the ending disagreeable to you because of your beliefs.
My personal beliefs were why I initially found it distasteful (and, perhaps, more willing to find fault than I might have been otherwise); the fact that it required the characters to suddenly, from the audience's perspective, act in a way that was the complete opposite from how they'd acted up until then made it lame.

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they must have been driving for hours and who knows how far they drove and all of the terrible things they saw they we weren't privy to seeing.
This may be true, but having characters' decisions based upon events that are unseen and unmentioned is bad storytelling.
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3/30/08 at 1:59pm
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Re: The Mist

not bad storytelling, different, i think it makes the story better , the imagination.

plus i thought it was pretty clear that they were driving for hours and had seen things in addition to what was shown.

either way you have your opinion.
for me i don;t usually allow what i believe in,
with life and god and anything else influence my thoughts on what people in movies should do.

movies like Gone Baby Gone and Reservation Road, have characters doing things that i may not have chosen.
i still thought Gone was a great movie, Reservation Road, not so much.
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3/30/08 at 2:16pm
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Re: The Mist

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This may be true, but having characters' decisions based upon events that are unseen and unmentioned is bad storytelling.

But the events weren't "unseen" unless your theater had a missing reel, or you were distracted by ringing cell phones, someone kicking your seat, or you had to take a piss break or run for out for some nachos.

All of the above are why I prefer watching movies in my home theater. No douchebags causing distractions and the pause button for those biological functions and sudden cravings.


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The impression was pretty clear to me that they were driving for hours, the slow motion time lapse and driving past the downed interstate sign gave the sense that they drove though the entire state.

Personally I'm glad they didn't feel the need to spoonfeed us any tacked on dialog for us to understand how far they drove. It didn't need it.





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3/30/08 at 2:18pm
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Re: The Mist

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But the events weren't "unseen" unless your theater had a missing reel, or you were distracted by ringing cell phones, someone kicking your seat, or you had to take a piss break or run for out for some nachos.

All of the above are why I prefer watching movies in my home theater. No douchebags causing distractions and the pause button for those biological functions and sudden cravings.


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The impression was pretty clear to me that they were driving for hours, the slow motion time lapse and driving past the downed interstate sign gave the sense that they drove though the entire state.

Personally I'm glad they didn't feel the need to spoonfeed us any tacked on dialog for us to understand how far they drove. It didn't need it.

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3/30/08 at 2:21pm
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Re: The Mist

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3/30/08 at 2:34pm
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Re: The Mist

After my son and I saw the film in the theater, we spent an awful lot of time talking about the ending.

This, for me, is put in the category of "while you may not agree with it, it sure is a powerful ending to have gotten so many people worked up and talking about it." It plays with your emotions, your personal beliefs, your understanding of the character's motives. And certainly makes you "think about things" after you've watched it.

Some may pooh-pooh that philosophy...but it's hard to disagree that it was powerful in the way it touched people both positively and negatively.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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3/30/08 at 2:46pm
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Re: The Mist

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After my son and I saw the film in the theater, we spent an awful lot of time talking about the ending.

This, for me, is put in the category of "while you may not agree with it, it sure is a powerful ending to have gotten so many people worked up and talking about it." It plays with your emotions, your personal beliefs, your understanding of the character's motives. And certainly makes you "think about things" after you've watched it.

Some may pooh-pooh that philosophy...but it's hard to disagree that it was powerful in the way it touched people both positively and negatively.


I completely disagree, I found it laughable and not powerfully in the least but I am glad others liked it.
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3/30/08 at 3:27pm
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Re: The Mist

But I never said I like it...just that it seemed to provoke strong reactions in people.

Personally, I thought it was a cheap device to give the film a certain weightiness that it didn't have (or, IMO, need).

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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3/30/08 at 9:22pm
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Re: The Mist

Watched the black and white version this afternoon, and I think it does add a good deal to the atmosphere. I understand what Darabont was trying to do with the ending, but when I watch the (really good) doc on the second disc and hear some of the principles comment on how it's probably how the story would end in real life, I tend to think none of them have children of their own. Still, ending aside it's one of the best horror films in recent years. Darabont really succeeds at making the human monsters in the market even more frightening than the actual monsters, without ever letting it seem implausible.
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3/31/08 at 5:19am
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Re: The Mist

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anything on the b&w version from anyone?

See my quickie Review in the SD area, it's like a whole nother movie, much better atmosphere.
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3/31/08 at 5:22am
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Re: The Mist

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
Damn it! I am officially intrigued enough with this film to go 'slumming' with the SD DVD release.

Why all the Hatred toward a medium we all embraced for years, did the appearance of HD suddenly mean all DVD's are trash, will all us DVD Lovers with our Special Edition Criterions be now Labeled Joe Six Pack.

I watched this on My PS3 which upconverts films nicely and it was a pretty good transfer and looked quite nice on my 1080p set. I don't get all this HD Elitism of late.
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3/31/08 at 5:25am
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Re: The Mist

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I loved it up until the end. As much as horror movies are supposed to be grim,

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the way everyone just gives up when they run out of gas, to the point of suicide, was hard for me to believe after they've been so determined, and then, right away, gotcha! it's over!


It struck me as being a different cliché than the one that usually gets maligned, but still lame compared to how good what had come before was.

Why these people Saw what the Monsters can do, they had no indication that getting out on foot and trying to make a run for it would help, the Mist seemed to be world wide, I can see the 4 making that choice.
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3/31/08 at 6:23am
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Re: The Mist

Another plus to the black and white version - the CGI is not nearly as noticeably low-budget in black and white. The creatures FX are all much more effective.
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3/31/08 at 6:44am
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Re: The Mist

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
Why all the Hatred toward a medium we all embraced for years, did the appearance of HD suddenly mean all DVD's are trash, will all us DVD Lovers with our Special Edition Criterions be now Labeled Joe Six Pack.
No, but it seems pretty likely that most major studio theatrical releases will get HD versions pretty soon; there doesn't seem to be much reason to either spend the money twice or wind up settling for the lesser version because you can't justify spending the money twice.

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Why these people Saw what the Monsters can do, they had no indication that getting out on foot and trying to make a run for it would help, the Mist seemed to be world wide, I can see the 4 making that choice.
Except that that's not the attitude they'd had for the first (running time - ten minutes) of the film. That's why a lot of people, myself included, think the ending doesn't work; it requires a 180-degree shift in the characters' behavior that we don't think the movie had really sold us on.
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3/31/08 at 7:57am
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Re: The Mist

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Except that that's not the attitude they'd had for the first (running time - ten minutes) of the film.

I wouldn't be too sure of that...


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I want to watch the B&W version of this film soon, but I'd be interested to know if my memory is correct that in the scene where the wife asks the husband if he can save his damaged painting he doesn't respond with "No, it's hopeless". Hope is what this movie is all about. There are some subtle and deft touches in this film, especially for a horror movie. It is entirely possible there are other instances of foreshadowing that, when faced with a situation that seems hopeless, our behavior changes, and we make rash decisions that we may regret.


Nevertheless, that may do nothing to change your opinion of the movie and its ending. Someone alluded to the fact that it may be pointless (hopeless ) to try and change one's opinion of a movie, and while I am not necessarily trying to do that, at least discussing the movie is more interesting to me than rehashing the same old topics as we are prone to do here time after time.
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3/31/08 at 8:15am
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Re: The Mist

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Why all the Hatred toward a medium we all embraced for years, did the appearance of HD suddenly mean all DVD's are trash, will all us DVD Lovers with our Special Edition Criterions be now Labeled Joe Six Pack.

I watched this on My PS3 which upconverts films nicely and it was a pretty good transfer and looked quite nice on my 1080p set. I don't get all this HD Elitism of late.

It's not that they're trash, by any means, but I'm not one to ever enjoy settling for "good enough". Trust me, it was a bitter pill to swallow as an owner of over 1,550 DVDs but, for me, when I took one look at Blu-ray, all 1,550+ DVDs in my collection immediately lost their luster. They'll do in a pinch but now they've become the technological version of the chick who looks hot as hell with a couple six packs in you but the next morning...eh, not so much...
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