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Since the first season finale was supposed to be it, I'm treating these seven episodes as a bonus prize.
Me too. Whatever happens, I won't be sorry I watched Jericho, like I am with John Doe and The 4400 (and others). CBS has done right by me by granting these us these seven episodes and allowing the writers to give us closure.

If this were FOX, they would have produced seven episodes to "test the waters", aired two (out of order), pre-empted two for sports, and then never scheduled the final three, opting instead to show reruns of some reality show even though the unaired episodes are in the can. Then, in Christmas of 2009, we'd be able to purchase the "Lost Episodes" of Jericho on DVD, long after we've forgotten about it.

So yeah, this is a bonus prize, and it's darn good television to boot. If CBS cancels the show, I hope the fans are gracious enough to be thankful for the gift they got with these seven episodes. If CBS knows that fans can actually be pleased, then they may actually go to some length to please the fans in the future by, for example, allowing the producers of the next serial drama that bombs to do a wrap-up two-hour movie.

A new precedent has been set here. Some good can come from this. I just hope the fans don't raise such a stink that CBS regrets producing these final seven episodes for them.

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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

Actually, as much as I like this show (it's one of my favorites this season) I'm sort of hoping that it wraps things up in the next three episodes. I'd rather see Jericho be a great show with a good ending rather than becoming one of those shows that goes on and on, milking every plot twist and turn out of the basic premise to create more episodes. That invites disaster (no pun intended).

Can you say, "Jump the Shark?"

There's something good about having a finite time to complete a story. Look at how Lost got on track one it was announced that there would be exactly 48 (I think) more episodes. The writers have a time frame and a goal to shoot for rather than just throwing stuff up in the air and hoping that some of it sticks.

Most of my favorite shows are ones where this method is employed. Even the poorly treated Daybreak (which was designed as a 13 episode series for airing during a Lost hiatus) was a finite series. What ABC did with that nice little show (only airing 6 episodes and then going to Internet access for the rest) was a crying shame. Thank goodness the complete 13 episode series comes out on DVD in a week or two.
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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

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A new precedent has been set here. Some good can come from this. I just hope the fans don't raise such a stink that CBS regrets producing these final seven episodes for them.

I doubt that CBS would have any "regret" other than not finding a way to earn better ratings and more revenue. I think scheduling is a weakness of CBS, and not doing promotion right. If you have a good 'story arc' series, you have to do specials and get new viewers interested in 'catching up' with the story. Look what ABC did with Lost at the beginning of season 4 with the intro specials and now the use of 'interactive' repeats. ABC is leaving CBS in the dust for these type shows.

I disagree with the critic who wrote that Jericho doesn't belong on a major network. I think Jericho would thrive on ABC right after Lost on Thursdays. (Sorry "Eli Stone", you just aren't worthy to follow Lost.)
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Me too. Whatever happens, I won't be sorry I watched Jericho, like I am with John Doe and The 4400 (and others). CBS has done right by me by granting these us these seven episodes and allowing the writers to give us closure.

If this were FOX, they would have produced seven episodes to "test the waters", aired two (out of order), pre-empted two for sports, and then never scheduled the final three, opting instead to show reruns of some reality show even though the unaired episodes are in the can. Then, in Christmas of 2009, we'd be able to purchase the "Lost Episodes" of Jericho on DVD, long after we've forgotten about it.

So yeah, this is a bonus prize, and it's darn good television to boot. If CBS cancels the show, I hope the fans are gracious enough to be thankful for the gift they got with these seven episodes. If CBS knows that fans can actually be pleased, then they may actually go to some length to please the fans in the future by, for example, allowing the producers of the next serial drama that bombs to do a wrap-up two-hour movie.

A new precedent has been set here. Some good can come from this. I just hope the fans don't raise such a stink that CBS regrets producing these final seven episodes for them.

Coming from the UK I'm used to shows having short runs - 6 episodes is about the standard for a season here. While the normal 22/23 episode runs you have in the US do give writers opportunities to really develop characters etc it does sometimes lead to a lot of padding. I am loving this show at the moment. My colleague at work and I have become total Jericho nerds - I just watched the latest episode this morning and was straight on the phone to her the moment the credits rolled to voice my shock at Bonnie's demise and share my pet theories about what's going to happen next (my money's on the mystery voice being revealed as Major Beck - certainly sounds like him)
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Yeah, short runs that keep the writers focused. That's what I was getting at. Thanks, everyone, for articulating that better than I did. (Aside: BSG was far more enjoyable when it was only 13 episodes per season. I'd gladly give up more episodes for a tighter story.)

The theory of Major Beck being Mr. Inside brings up two thoughts:

1. Beck seemed genuinely surprised to see Valente on the surveillance video, and expressed this surprise in private. Although it wouldn't be the first time in television (or movies) a character does something in private that contradicts the character's ultimate motive or knowledge just to throw the viewer off, I think the writers of Jericho are better than this.

2. Based on his confession that he helped write the contingency document, Mr. Inside, if he can be trusted, seems to be a (perhaps former) J&R employee, not a military man. Of course, a person isn't being precluded from being both, but I don't think that's likely.

It would be cool to have Beck revealed to be Mr. Inside, but it would be no less dramatic for Beck to discover that Mason is dead, Hawkins has the bomb, and he has to decide in a final confrontation whether to side with Hawkins or Valente.

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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

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2. Based on his confession that he helped write the contingency document, Mr. Inside, if he can be trusted, seems to be a (perhaps former) J&R employee, not a military man. Of course, a person isn't being precluded from being both, but I don't think that's likely.

Yeah, I get the strong feeling he's an as of yet unseen corporate whistle blower.
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The theory of Major Beck being Mr. Inside brings up two thoughts:

1. Beck seemed genuinely surprised to see Valente on the surveillance video, and expressed this surprise in private. Although it wouldn't be the first time in television (or movies) a character does something in private that contradicts the character's ultimate motive or knowledge just to throw the viewer off, I think the writers of Jericho are better than this.

2. Based on his confession that he helped write the contingency document, Mr. Inside, if he can be trusted, seems to be a (perhaps former) J&R employee, not a military man. Of course, a person isn't being precluded from being both, but I don't think that's likely.

I hadn't thought of it that way - I just took his reaction to seeing Valente as comfirmation of what he had secretly been thinking for some time - kinda "damn, I'm a smart guy and the evidence is piling up now to suggest that I'm on the wrong side here." FWIW I think he's smart enough to know that Hawkins has been manipulating him to some extent and I don't think he's tipped his hand entirely yet. I did have a fleeting thought that maybe the writers are going to be extra cute and string us all along thinking that Beck is a good guy and then pull the rug out from us later and reveal this has all been about smoking out Hawkins and the bomb. As for point #2, I had instantly just rationalised that Beck had been used as a consultant since J&R would probably require someone with military experience to advise on their "hypothetical" disaster.

Maybe I missed a few things - I was feeding and changing my baby girl at the same time I was watching
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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

OK, quick question, which may be resolved soon:
Assuming that Mimi survives, why?

What I mean is, why no finishing shot from a survivor on the J&R team?
Was the last pistol shot, which apparently finished Bonnie, a considered action or the act of a badly wounded man?

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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

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Actually, as much as I like this show (it's one of my favorites this season) I'm sort of hoping that it wraps things up in the next three episodes. I'd rather see Jericho be a great show with a good ending rather than becoming one of those shows that goes on and on, milking every plot twist and turn out of the basic premise to create more episodes. That invites disaster (no pun intended).
I definitely hear where you're coming from, and I'm definitely prefering seven tight episodes to the flabby 22-episode first season.
That said, I think there's still a lot of meat left on the bones of this concept. I could see this show running for another four or five seven episode seasons without running out of steam.
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(my money's on the mystery voice being revealed as Major Beck - certainly sounds like him)
Considering how much they're budget got slashed for this season, it's possible they just couldn't afford to pay another actor
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Yeah, I get the strong feeling he's an as of yet unseen corporate whistle blower.
Me too. If not previously unseen at least not the major. The biggest argument in support of it being the major, though, is that the whistleblower only contacted Hawkins after Hawkins contacted the major. That still doesn't explain how the major would know their secret fax code for the telephone number.
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FWIW I think he's smart enough to know that Hawkins has been manipulating him to some extent and I don't think he's tipped his hand entirely yet.
No question. He outright called Hawkins on it in the last episode, and both know they're acting out an artificial dance to protect their own hides.
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As for point #2, I had instantly just rationalised that Beck had been used as a consultant since J&R would probably require someone with military experience to advise on their "hypothetical" disaster.
Beck still seems too low on the totem pole for that. My two theories on the caller, if he's someone we've already been introduced to: 1) the Ravenwood administrator who killed Bonnie 2) Valenti himself, trying to smoke Hawkins out.
I still think, though, that it's a as-yet-unintroduced Daniel Ellsberg type, except CIA instead of State Department.
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Assuming that Mimi survives, why?

What I mean is, why no finishing shot from a survivor on the J&R team?
Was the last pistol shot, which apparently finished Bonnie, a considered action or the act of a badly wounded man?
I missed the preview for Tuesday, so can anyone confirm whether the Ravenwood guy was alright in that?

The reason Mimi survived is because she was hiding in the pantry. As far as they knew, she fled out the back door and was long gone. She only got shot because one or more of the shots aimed at Bonnie went through the wall of the pantry and got her.
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Re: Jericho Season 2 thread

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I missed the preview for Tuesday, so can anyone confirm whether the Ravenwood guy was alright in that?

Please don't without a spoiler tag. Many folks don't watch or just plain avoid previews because most shows give away too many plot points to the point that it makes watching meaningless.

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I don't think anyone on the Ravenwood team saw Mimi in the house, so I'm pretty sure that if anyone from the Ravenwood team survived, they just assumed that Mimi really wasn't there and didn't conduct a search.

I don't recall -- were there any Ravenwood bodies littering the premises when Jake showed up? If not, who cleaned up the mess?

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Just got around to watching this episode and all I can say is WOW!!! I really enjoyed the first season of Jericho, but these 4 episodes have been so much better that it has become my favorite show on TV. I'm hoping the show doesn't get the ax, but if it does at least we're getting a batch of high quality episodes on the way out.

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Just got around to watching this episode and all I can say is WOW!!! I really enjoyed the first season of Jericho, but these 4 episodes have been so much better that it has become my favorite show on TV. I'm hoping the show doesn't get the ax, but if it does at least we're getting a batch of high quality episodes on the way out.

Amen to that. I had read about the show last year and actively went looking for it. I liked the first series - even if some of the early episodes were a little bit "Dawson's Creek" meets "The Day After" it was still better than most of the cheap reality TV crap that clogs up the screen these day (just as bad in the UK folks). It got me hooked and when it raised its game by mid season it had become unmissable. I agree that there is still a lot of mileage left in the concept but I'd rather see it go out on a high than slog on season after season with diminishing returns.
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when Jake showed up? If not, who cleaned up the mess?
Considering that Mimi was already setup on the stretcher and on the way to the ambulance, it's possible that Jake showed up at the tail end of the clean-up.
Does Jericho still have a coroner?
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Did they give away a different character death in the previews for tonights episode (3/11)?


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I am not sure if it was the preview or a commercial for tonights episode. But, it shows the DB Sweeney's character coming from behind Deputy Bill and breaking his neck by twisting it. Did anyone see that??

Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.

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Holy crap! Oh, and Hawkins is my hero!

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This has been an incredible roller coaster ride these eps And it keeps getting better. Great stuff tonight... the final shot was fantastic.

As to the future...


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It's kind of apparent this could be the last of the show, which is OK, but it's almost like this show is entirely setup as a preface now; the call for the next American Revolution.. wow, what a statement.. it's almost as though if they wanted to do another season, it would be a drastic shift in everything that's happening and who the required characters would be, outside of say, Jake & Hawkins
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Another great, tense episode. I especially liked the shot of Major Beck riding into New Bern with the Ravenwood guy hung lynched over the sign. It made me immediately flash back to learning about the terrible days of Bleeding Kansas. We sometimes forget how dark out history is, and this episode — like the final arc of last season — made the Lord of the Flies argument that we're all a lot closer to being savages than we'd like to admit.

Unfortunately the administrator's embezzling, far from simply costing poor Bonnie her life, seems to have also lost Beck's tenative support for Jake and Hawkins:
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The shot of Jake surrendering and being blackbagged in the preview for next week was shocking.
I just don't see how they're going to wrap this up in two episodes.
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I actually shed a tear when Stan was signing his last words to Bonnie. A nice touch.

This episode was extra minty goodness.

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Did anybody else notice the announcer during the ending credits??

He didn't say "two episodes left". He said "two episodes left this season."

Gentlemen, check your DVRs.
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I wouldn't take that as a specific promise - there has obviously been no decision made about the show's future yet, and won't be for a couple of months, so no good would come of acting like the series is over in two weeks.

In the meantime, though, Beck was called out of town at the worst possible time. Goetz really doesn't come out of this looking terribly bright, to be honest - if Beck hadn't been on his way out, he was likely screwed, and for all he knew, Mimi had already gotten away to talk while he was burning ledger pages. Which makes sense - he was, mainly, a thug. A highly trained and skilled thug, but there's a reason he's hired muscle rather than a master criminal.

Great siege of an episode. I wonder what story Jake and company tell Beck next week - that he and his deputies were trying to arrest Goetz when he and his goons returned fire and the New Bern folks showed up and, shit, that's a lot of bullets, eventually one's going to find someone's head? As bad as things might get for Jericho, I really wouldn't want to be in New Bern.
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That was a tense episode. I, too, was touched by Stanley's final words to Bonnie.

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I wonder what story Jake and company tell Beck next week
My guess is that Jake and Hawkins just let Russell (the New Bern bounty hunter) have Goetz to string up as a trophy so they (Jake and Hawkins) could play dumb and deny any involvement.

That would be my strategy.



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Well, the other question is if any of Goetz's Goons were alive/conscious when Stanley capped him. I could see the Jericho and New Bern people saying, hey, we were trying to arrest him peaceable-like, but the man started firing, but the other Ravenwood guys likely won't.
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I really didn't understand Hawkins' statement that everything was fine up until Goetz was shot... they had killed 4 other Ravenwood guys right there, plus 2-3 others? I understand Goetz was the leader, but the other deaths are no biggie? But Goetz dying is going to bring down the wrath of Beck on BOTH Jericho and New Bern? I don't get that part..

Other than that, I loved this episode. My wife is finally getting into this show as well. I hope it doesn't end, but it certainly looks like it's headed that way.
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Beck threatened Jake before going off to New Bern that nothing was to happen to Goetz. He knew there might be a confrontation.

It's likely Jake told Hawkins this, and so Hawkins is now concerned about his fragile alliance with Beck being destroyed by this incident. Beck is not going to be happy about having to report multiple Ravenwood deaths to J&R, even if they were fired. It's a reflection of his own "failure of leadership."
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It's a reflection of [Beck's] own "failure of leadership."
As I recall, Goetz was in charge, not Beck. Valente took that leadership role away from Beck when he sent Goetz to be the town's administrator so Beck could concentrate on finding (and terminating) Mason. Beck had no authority over Goetz (and was even told to stay out of his way, I think) outside day-to-day military operations, so if anything, this should be a reflection of Goetz's leadership failure.

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I really didn't understand Hawkins' statement that everything was fine up until Goetz was shot... they had killed 4 other Ravenwood guys right there, plus 2-3 others? I understand Goetz was the leader, but the other deaths are no biggie? But Goetz dying is going to bring down the wrath of Beck on BOTH Jericho and New Bern? I don't get that part..

He had just been fired and removed from his position at Ravenwood. They had proof of corruption. With him alive, even with the others dead, they could have made a compelling case and used him to show that he WAS corrupt and he had killed citizens intentionally; the whole killing of his men would show it was a desperate fight between a man gone rogue, removed of his position with Ravenwood.

But once he died, there is no way to really get anyone to say, firsthand, that they swept in to kill Bonnie. There isn't a way to show him as the evil he was. Now, he's just another person of authority dead.
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Also, If I may, I do wonder what would possess a group of people to murder millions of people and overthrow the government... for what? Just to be at the cabinet level of a new, totatilatarian government? I don't get it.

I'm not criticizing the show for putting this forth as a plausible notion, because I have no doubt that such people exist and would do just that if given the opportunity. I just don't understand the GottaRuleTheWorld mentality of such egomaniacs. Do their TiVos not have big enough hard drives, or what?

I do think that having J&R revealed as the instigator of the worst crime in history is an exciting development, and it completely eliminates any presumption that this plan was initiated for some however misguided "higher prupose" of establishing a better government. Nope, it's just greed. How do you combat that kind of indifference to life? How much like them will the townspeople of Jericho have to become in order to put an end to their machinations?

I said before that Trish was my hero, but after thinking about it, I'll have to go with Heather. Trish didn't hesitate to do the right thing, but she also had little chance of getting caught. Heather, on the other hand, committed herself to continue to do the right thing even if it meant having a bounty on her head.

And Goetz, when he said to Trish, "Are you happy?", is typical of one who never sees that his own misfortune is the result of his own actions, not the actions of others. In his mind, the only reason he was fired was because Evil Trish betrayed him, not because he was a murdering low-life.

Poor Stanley. I wonder if Beck will find out who pulled the trigger.

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Well, the other question is if any of Goetz's Goons were alive/conscious when Stanley capped him. I could see the Jericho and New Bern people saying, hey, we were trying to arrest him peaceable-like, but the man started firing, but the other Ravenwood guys likely won't.
The only problem with that defense was the decision to string him up like a trophy.
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As I recall, Goetz was in charge, not Beck. Valente took that leadership role away from Beck when he sent Goetz to be the town's administrator so Beck could concentrate on finding (and terminating) Mason. Beck had no authority over Goetz (and was even told to stay out of his way, I think) outside day-to-day military operations, so if anything, this should be a reflection of Goetz's leadership failure.

If you want a job done right, you've got to send smarter thugs.

Then it doesn't make much sense why Beck would be so adamant that Jake do nothing to Goetz. Part of the responsibility of having to maintain order is preventing the administrator from getting capped, isn't it?

Then, when the New Bern posse strung up the body, this was a signal to Beck that they, not Beck, knew what was needed to restore order.
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