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2/2/08 at 3:34am
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Having watched the That's Entertainment trilogy in high definition has only wetted my appetite for more classic musicals to be released in high definition.

The quality of much of the material was stunning and I can't wait for releases of Singin' In The Rain, The Band Wagon, High Society and The Wizard of Oz (as a start).

I hope we will not have to wait too long for them to come out.
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2/2/08 at 8:06am
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Re: Musicals

I think we'll see The Wizard of Oz and Singin' in the Rain first, as these have already been transferred using Warner's Ultra Resolution process, like The Adventures of Robin Hood.

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2/2/08 at 10:07am
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Re: Musicals

I have to finish watching the 3-BD set of That's Entertainment, but what I've seen so far has done the same for me: wet my appetite for classic musicals in HD!

Worth noting is that the clips of films like singing in the rain in the That's Entertainment set are from analog prints from some time ago and don't even represent the quality we'll see given the digitally-registered 4K masters used for the lastest DVD and theatrical prints (I saw a 35 mm pring of singing in the rain after this process and it was gorgeous).

Even better!

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2/2/08 at 3:37pm
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Re: Musicals

I just hope they don't wait too long!
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2/2/08 at 4:31pm
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Re: Musicals

I'm willing to wait for quality work. Considering that musicals tended to get treated to the state of the art of technology of the time (Technicolor, stereo, widescreen) they deserve the same treatment on BD.

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2/2/08 at 8:14pm
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Re: Musicals

Sound of Music, West Side Story, or more recently Moulin Rouge would look nice in HD.
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2/3/08 at 9:49am
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Re: Musicals

West Side Story was on HDNet Movies, but the transfer they used had serious edge enhancement problems. I heard they were making a new 70mm print.

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2/3/08 at 6:55pm
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Re: Musicals

I'd sooooo love to see Moulin Rouge. That film would be stunning in hi-def.

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2/3/08 at 7:23pm
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The MPEG2 D-VHS tape of Moulin Rouge was spectacular. I can only imagine what a high-bit-rate AVC compressed version would behold.

I wish Sony would get that darned upgrade out for the PS3 so I could decode DTS-HD MA (which Fox uses on all of its HD releases)!

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2/4/08 at 4:31pm
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Re: Musicals

David, you claim that "Worth noting is that the clips of films like singing in the rain in the That's Entertainment set are from analog prints from some time ago and don't even represent the quality we'll see given the digitally-registered 4K masters used for the lastest DVD and theatrical prints"

yet I have read in several places that exactly the opposite is true, and that restored sequences were substituted for many key sequences. In fact, Robert Harris says in his review on this very forum "but where work has been performed, higher quality elements have been substituted."

So who's right ? I suspect Mr. Harris is, as the excerpts from High Society are just so unbelievably crisp and clean, they stand out compared to many sequences around them.
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2/4/08 at 4:57pm
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Re: Musicals

Rob,

thanks for enlightening me. I assumed that given the age of the film, the clips would have been from the original source without substitutions. If I'm mistaken I'm thrilled to hear it! (and indeed many of those sequences looked darn good... better than I had imagined). Can you direct me to another link or thread that discusses this?

thanks!
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2/4/08 at 8:07pm
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Re: Musicals

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Rob,

thanks for enlightening me. I assumed that given the age of the film, the clips would have been from the original source without substitutions. If I'm mistaken I'm thrilled to hear it! (and indeed many of those sequences looked darn good... better than I had imagined). Can you direct me to another link or thread that discusses this?

thanks!

Robert Harris talks about this very issue in his review here:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ion-bd-hd.html

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2/4/08 at 8:15pm
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Re: Musicals

Thanks!!
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2/5/08 at 3:41pm
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Re: Musicals

While I can seldom remember what I ate for lunch today, I'm sure that I have seen confirmation in a HTF chat that Warner had actually been doing upgraded clip substitution as far back as the recent SD box set of TE films in order to improve the presentations of the films.
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2/5/08 at 4:51pm
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Re: Musicals

They did, but the problem that I see in the new release is that apparently the negatives created for the theatrical release of "Thats Entertainment" have now faded. At least that's the only explanation I have for some of the wierd faded colors and the lack of true blacks in many sequences. It takes a lot of the Technicolor brilliance and pop out of the original sources.

This is very also apparent in the introduction sequences.

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2/7/08 at 1:01pm
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Re: Musicals

Per WB info @ the digital bits...we can anticipate "An American In Paris" and "Gigi" in HD!
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2/7/08 at 1:14pm
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Re: Musicals

Also GYPSY was mentioned as coming out in an SE.....soooo hopefully it will be in Blue Ray as well.

Ken

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2/7/08 at 1:16pm
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Per WB info @ the digital bits...we can anticipate "An American In Paris" and "Gigi" in HD!

Judging by the clips in the That's Entertaiment set, they will be STUNNING in HD.

Gigi had some of the most 3-dimensional HD images I'VE EVER SEEN. Incredible. Just incredible.
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2/7/08 at 1:31pm
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Re: Musicals

(...o.k.,...be calm...just need to choose a tru-blu player!...)

I think the great thing about WB is their commitment to issue in HD when they issue in standard DVD...just think of the possibilities!
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2/7/08 at 1:37pm
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Re: Musicals

off topic for this thread, but they also mentioned that Ben-Hur would come on in 1080p on blu in 2009 for it's 50th anniversary.



BTW, they said that The Wizard of Oz would be coming to Blu in 2009 as well.

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2/7/08 at 1:50pm
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Re: Musicals

I only wish that the next mgm musical collection would also be available in HD...I'd especially love to see "Deep In My Heart" in its full glory!

DaViD, any other segments of "That's Entertainment" which look so good that they might be sign(s) of future HD releases...I'd love to see "The Band Wagon" in HD.
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4/26/09 at 5:00pm
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Re: Musicals

I noticed that amazon.com is listing "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," "The Band Wagon," "Easter Parade," (and, I forget what else) as future releases on Blu-ray. Is this wishful thinking or possible realities?
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4/26/09 at 6:38pm
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Re: Musicals

Those are probably Amazon.com placeholders. They do them all the time for DVDs.

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4/26/09 at 7:04pm
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Those are probably Amazon.com placeholders. They do them all the time for DVDs.

...I just wonder what information they use as a basis for these listings...
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4/27/09 at 8:30am
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Re: Musicals

Those titles are generally the Big Sellers from the MGM vault. I think it highly likely that they are indeed coming to BR.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...74#post2754974
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4/27/09 at 10:24am
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Re: Musicals

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Originally Posted by Ethan Riley
Those titles are generally the Big Sellers from the MGM vault. I think it highly likely that they are indeed coming to BR.

...this would be wonderful...can't wait!...
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4/27/09 at 3:03pm
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Re: Musicals

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Originally Posted by Edward Weinman
...this would be wonderful...can't wait!...

...and while they're at it, why don't they release "Kismet" as well. I thought it was supposed to come out as a stand-alone standard def version (it's only available in a boxed set currently). So since they were taking their sweet time for that, the BluRay revolution happened--and now they need to put it on BR.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...74#post2754974
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