A few words about...™ El Cid

Re: A few words about...™ El Cid

David, I do really appreicate all the effort you went to to dust off your old player and check out the sound. Obviously my memory was incorrect. I do recall a nice surround on one laser version,perhaps the original Japanese pressing. As I later said, when I played the Weinstein release all the way thru there was indeed some surround -only not where I expected to find it based on the 70mm release.

Once again, thanks,mate for all your great effort.

Re: A few words about...™ El Cid

Films from the '50s and '60s did not have surround tracks. There was also no sub information.

They had occasional use of effects tracks in the rear.

All other audio (5 channels of it in 70mm) was front, although some mixes were spread from a four channel, creating phantoms in 2 and 4.

Re: A few words about...™ El Cid

Thanks for correcting my sloppy use of the word "surround".The rear track used to be called the "Audience participation" track or "AP's" for short, if my memory serves me.
If only "El Cid" had the same " occasional use of effects track in the rear" on the DVD as did the original release.!

just scanned El Cid Blu Ray and FOTRE blu ray. Both on BD50 , AVC encode

BAD NEWS : both are locked to Region B

GOOD NEWS: Koch Media were kind enough to include a digital copy of the films . Just as well, as it's on an iphone where these sort of transfers are gonna shine

From what I recall from working on the laserdisc of "El Cid" the mono 'effects' track consisted mainly of brief musical fanfares which supported the front channels. There was, however, a lot of additional information added to create a stereo surround track, plus a subwoofer channel for the 5.1. The original LCR front channels were not altered in any way. This same 5.1 track was used for the dvd release.