Re: Universal's Graffeo: HD DVD is here to stay!
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Originally Posted by Alfonso_M
I don't now either how you arrived at this figures, and I’m not planning to dig through all the sources you listed either, since you are the one making this assertion you should provide in this thread the data used to reach your results, until then, your conclusions are suspect at best.
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Wow, is Google really that hard for folks?
Toshiba press conference with 49% figureNPD Data for December 2007 and Weeks 1 & 2 of January 2008NPD Data for Week 3 of January 2008 and Blu-ray revenue advantage (TDB also includes the weekly software figures from Nielsen/Videoscan on the home page)
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| "The just-issued press release recaps a "breakthrough year" for HD DVD, reporting almost one million dedicated HD DVD players sold through to consumers, and software sales for the format that grew at nearly twice the rate of Blu-ray during the five week holiday selling period." |
Odd that we're now taking the word of Toshiba press releases. First of all, you'll notice that they used the "wiggle" language of dedicated (not standalone) players. "Dedicated" in this case refers to both standalones and the 360 add-on, and that they also refer to players rather than households. Judging by the poor software sales (83:17)
after they made the price cuts and the posts I'm seeing all over the place, we have people buying secondary (or more, up to 5(!) from one owner) players, which do nothing to help sell software.
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| In the “real world” those 129.00 priced HD-DVD are flying off the shelves, in my local Costco a week ago they had three pallets full, yesterday all this players were gone except for a few, they moved the un-sold 379.00 Blu rays to the same spot. |
Well, if I had a nickel for every time someone brought up the old "well at
my store..." chestnut, I'd be a rich man. It doesn't matter what your local store is doing, because the actual sales data says otherwise. Just from LA residents alone, I've heard everything from "HD DVD is selling like gangbusters" to "Blu-ray is selling like 20:1"--and that was for the same week. Well, despite the apparently irrational enthusiasm of the Blu-ray supporter, he was closer, because that week showed a 13:1 blowout in Blu-ray's favor.
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| Pretty soon is going to be very difficult for any "reasonable" movie Studio to ignore this growing potential market |
Whatever. I've been hearing this since April 2007, and guess what? The studios have been ignoring this "growing potential market" the entire time, because in the real world (not that of personal anecdotes) it doesn't exist. Blu-ray was growing faster and stronger before the Warner announcement, in the real world, and that has only accelerated in the last couple of weeks.
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| and if the Studios continue to plot to kill HD-DVD with out merit --- like they are attempting now --, rest assure this fiasco is going to land them in a court room. |
You're kidding, right? There's no law about studios or labels "killing" a format, or else we'd still be listening to LPs, and there would be no satellite radio, or cable/satellite TV.
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| You just don't sand bag a million plus American house holds and expect to escape without court (possibly justice department) ordered punitive damage. |
Wow, you really do believe this! Not to sound like a broken record, but there's no law against freezing out any format. If you adopt and lose, that's entirely your fault.
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| According to my personal observations very few "average consumers" are interested in forking out 400.00 dollars for a Blu player, (not even me) and the majority of adults won't buy a PS3 for an HT room (or main TV) to watch movies, they rather not deal with teenagers (in house or as guests) high jacking their Flat screen to play "games" while they waste away their precious and limited leisure hours waiting by the sofa. |
Well, I'm glad for you. Unfortunately, the real world must again intrude on your personal observations. Very few "average consumers" are buying into the format, and in the real world, there are not only conusmers that are not only buying the $400 players, they're buying more of them than they are HD DVD. Meanwhile, despite the best wishes of HD DVD supporters, more and more companies are releasing better and cheaper Blu-ray players, while no more are jumping on the HD DVD trainwreck.
Damn you Sony, why did you make so attractive console/BD-player! Look what you´ve done: BOTH the adults and teenagers want to use it! Whyyyyyyyyyyy!
