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2/19/08 at 1:23pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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I'm still rooting for a combo player too!


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Same here. I'd much rather shell out for a Toshi combo player than a BD standalone or a PS3

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2/19/08 at 1:38pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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Same here. I'd much rather shell out for a Toshi combo player than a BD standalone or a PS3
The fact that they are abandoning HD DVD does not pose well for their future making any kind of player with HD DVD capabilities.
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2/19/08 at 1:47pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

Not necessarily. It only means that they are abandoning any future development of the format, meaning no new features. They are continuing support for those who bought into the format, and arguably that could include combo players.

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2/19/08 at 1:51pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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Not necessarily. It only means that they are abandoning any future development of the format, meaning no new features. They are continuing support for those who bought into the format, and arguably that could include combo players.

I would hope that you are right, but I have a sinking feeling that Jeremy may be correct with his assumption. I would love to be wrong and admit I very well may be. I just got the sense that Toshiba was moving on and looking to develop the "next thing".
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2/19/08 at 2:04pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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DavidJ,

do us the honor and compare the two side-by-side when the new disc comes out. Have someone switch between them without your knowledge of which is which and report back what you see/hear.

It's not 100% double-blind, but what I usually do if I have both lossless and lossy on the same disc is set up my remote to toggle between the audio, close my eyes, and press multiple times until I lose track of which sountrack option I'm listening to. Then I guage my perceptions and open my eyes to see if my impressions are having any corrleation (showing a reliable difference) versus the lossy/lossless options.

With the 640 kbps DD on BD it's a no-brainer that lossless is always *noticably* better. Many at AVS have already reported hearing improvements with lossless over DD+ at 1500 kbps on other titles, but I'd be especially curious with transformers... it wasn't really until Transformers hit without it that suddenly we started hearing reports from "experts" telling us that DD+ was transparent.

I may well do that David. If it weren't too much of a pain to haul my gear, I'd even consider running the test with my audio class when we discuss compression. The disc probably won't be out in time anyway. Oh, well.

Oh, and I absolutely agree with you that 640 kbps DD vs lossless is a no-brainer. I'd add that 640 kbps DD versus a 1500 kbps DD+ track is also a no-brainer. It is the other comparison we have been discussing that is more difficult.
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2/19/08 at 2:21pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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The fact that they are abandoning HD DVD does not pose well for their future making any kind of player with HD DVD capabilities.
Maybe. I think it's more likely that, when it comes time to manufacture their first Blu-ray player, they'll see that including HD DVD capability is pretty close to free (they don't have to include any components that wouldn't be found in a Profile 2.0 BD player), and doing so will make their players more desirable to the couple hundred thousand or so people who have HD DVD collections than their competitors'.
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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Maybe. I think it's more likely that, when it comes time to manufacture their first Blu-ray player, they'll see that including HD DVD capability is pretty close to free (they don't have to include any components that wouldn't be found in a Profile 2.0 BD player), and doing so will make their players more desirable to the couple hundred thousand or so people who have HD DVD collections than their competitors'.
That would be a great deal, if we knew something fairly soon it might even prevent me from buying a backup standalone and just waiting for that and putting my standalone HD DVD player in storage for backup. I don't find the Samsung and LG's particularly appealing.
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2/19/08 at 4:12pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

Thank goodness I did not buy an HD DVD player. ...
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2/19/08 at 7:00pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

Yeah, you might have spent the past year and a half watching some good stuff. Close call.
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2/19/08 at 7:33pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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The fact that they are abandoning HD DVD does not pose well for their future making any kind of player with HD DVD capabilities.

Actually LG said today that they will continue supporting HD DVD with combo players. So there may still be hope for a combo player in the future. Link

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2/19/08 at 7:34pm
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

LOL, Jason.
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

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Yeah, you might have spent the past year and a half watching some good stuff. Close call.

Well this seems as good a time as any for me to use the laughing smilie for the first time:

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2/24/08 at 8:35am
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Re: Thank-you HD DVD and Toshiba

Great thread and so true!! I agree BD wouldn't be where it is had it not been for the competition from HD DVD. My hopes for BD now is that BD Live and bitstreaming become a staple of all BD players from henceforth!
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