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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
Admittedly, no - but I've seen displays in stores, and frankly it looks overdone in some cases (I don't really need or want to see razor burn or pock marks in Adam Sandler's skin in ClICK).
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Originally Posted by Dan_Ohio
Watching Bill Gates last keynote, I noticed all the PCs were Sony VAIOs. Anything to read into that?
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Out of respect for HD-DVD we aren't going to declare a winner
until the other side completely bows out. |
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Originally Posted by From an article in tomorrow's (01/07/08) Wall Street Journal:
.....Toshiba, which conceded Friday that the Warner Bros. move is a "setback," is expected to continue making its case for HD DVD, at least for awhile. Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc., plans to continue to support the HD DVD format, a spokeswoman said yesterday. The other remaining Hollywood supporter, General Electric Co.'s Universal Pictures, declined to comment.
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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina
I fully do not agree that what happens in the next year is an indicator of whether or not HDM is doomed.
First of all: the format war is not over until HD-DVD officially bows out and all major studios support Blu-Ray. Those of us "in the know" understand that WB's announcement is close to a death knell for HD-DVD, but until their product is off store shelves, there is still going to be the mass consumer confusion/indifference. With Paramount signed on for potentially another 15 months, HD-DVD may not concede until 2009 [or later, if Toshiba really wants to see this through to the end], thus things will still be muddled for consumers for much of 2008. |
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Out of respect for HD-DVD we aren't going to declare a winner until the other side completely bows out.
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Feline videophiles Susie and Dukie.
As of July 2009, I own more movies in High-Definition than in Standard-Definition.
http://mydiscs.markshangout.com
Feline videophiles Susie and Dukie.
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Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls
I don't know about that Mark. BRD is a clean new design: HD-DVD is more of an upgrade to existing DVD. I would guess that it's a lot easier for a BRD player to add support for HD-DVD as a "feature" than it would be for an HD-DVD to add support for BRD.
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As of July 2009, I own more movies in High-Definition than in Standard-Definition.
http://mydiscs.markshangout.com
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Originally Posted by Mark Booth
Someone on another forum has suggested that a good move for Toshiba at this point would be to offer a Combo player!!
I think it would sell extremely well! |
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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
Admittedly, no - but I've seen displays in stores, and frankly it looks overdone in some cases (I don't really need or want to see razor burn or pock marks in Adam Sandler's skin in ClICK). Even in real life things aren't as easily noticeable. I'll be 46 this year and although I've always enjoyed 20-20 vision, my eyes are not as keen as they once were lately, anyway. I've also read observations from many who either do own HDM or have seen others', and they say it's not that much of a leap, at least depending on the specific title in question. Then somebody usually starts with an array of special wirings and gadgets and settings required to "get the full benefit".. but hey, I just wanna enjoy a movie...
I realize that I am venturing into exclusively "pro-HD territory" in this section of the forum, but I have read up to 15 pages (so far) to see what members are feeling and thinking. By the way, I do agree with you, Robert, that it's nobody's fault but their own that they rolled the dice and chose HD-DVD and now are left holding the bag. |
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Originally Posted by Terry Hickey
I think a lot of you are missing the point on the HDM format war. Just because Warner's is jumping ship later on this year doesn't mean the general public is going to jump on the HDM bandwagon. Also, I think the masses have spoken and aren't given the credit of being intelligent in their choice or lack of choice. Just as money is the big factor for corporations, spending money is a big factor for the masses. Until HDM, HD DVD and Blu-ray or whatever is left, comes down in prices on both hardware and software, they aren't going to make headways.
Software is what will drive the market, but with SD DVD being less expensive, what choice is the logical one for the masses? Home theater enthusiasts will want the better product, but the general masses will prefer the cheaper product. |
| What I find interesting reading through these forums and others is the cut off the nose to spite the face attitude of some of the HD DVD supporters. It seems they would rather see HDM as a whole die then to have to go out and buy a BD player. What kind of attitude is that? To invest so much emotion into a piece of hardware is just plain silly. |
| Oh I think the retailers and consumers are going to make Toshiba's decision a lot easier for them. If this news gets through to the portion of the consumer market that is ready to take the plunge into HD (people like me) then HD DVD players are going to be gathering dust on the shelves. Assuming retailers will even want to stock them anymore. |
1080p High Definition SupporterLossless Audio Supporter Current Library: 221 DVD's / 70 HD-DVD's / 181 Blu-ray's (251 HD Titles)
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Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
I will just continue to enjoy my HD-DVD collection and I will just go on buying Blu-ray titles.
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* No longer looking for Hi-Vision Laserdiscs *
(I buried that format)
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Originally Posted by JonZ
"Yeah, I will be reading a lot more books from now on. At least they don't keep changing formats on us."
Seems alot of people are really disappointed. This is why I said, Im spending so much less on my HT habit than years that have passed and Ive made comments here before about disappointing with movies and television (favorite shows being cancelled) so many times recently that it really made me step back and take another look at how I was spending my time and money. I started drawing again, practice guitar more, etc...doing other things to occupy my time than I was previously. And Ive cut way back on spending my money on HT things. I really havent gotten upset. Like I said my decision to go HDDVD was a financial one. We'll have to see, but its possible Toshiba wont abandon the people who invested in HDDVD and a combo player may be available. A combo player would be ideal for peopel who did invest in HDDVD. If not, Ill eventually get a BluRay player, but Im not in any hurry. It wont happen for awhile. As for my Toshiba and HDDVDs,I still have a LD player from 1984 and it works fine! So I plan on enjoying my HDDVDs for a long time. |
Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Originally Posted by troy evans
Let me first state that this following is only my opinion of what should happen and is what I am going to do. Reading the numbers over the past year it seems Home Theater enthusiusts, like many here, make up a good portion of the HDM sales. Whether it be players or discs. Of course there are exceptions ,but, hear me out. Since the average consumer couldn't even put HD DVD in the lead at $100 a player or less and the 360 add-on not helping it that much, I'm left to conclude that a majority of the HDM sales are us or others like us. I can only further conclude that by putting our collective force behind Bluray now will quicken the complete end to the format war. I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but, I believe this is the next logical step. I'm sure many will dispute this, but, it seems from my standpoint the best next move. Once there is one format I believe greater adoption will be seen of HDM. I'm sure many also will agree.
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And at this point, I guess I already own more HDM -- ~30 all in Blu -- than my local Blockbuster too, LOL. Nobody I personally know comes close to me in DVD collection save one coworker -- and I only recently found out. Outside of that one coworker, I suspect I own more DVDs than all the people I personally know combined. Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
You may be right -- and I've been wondering about that myself. I'm not even a true early adopter as I only jumped in during the last month, but heck, I owned more DVDs than Blockbuster rented out for a long time -- and I still might be owning more compared to my local Blockbuster though I apparently pale in comparison to RAF.
And at this point, I guess I already own more HDM -- ~30 all in Blu -- than my local Blockbuster too, LOL. Nobody I personally know comes close to me in DVD collection save one coworker -- and I only recently found out. Outside of that one coworker, I suspect I own more DVDs than all the people I personally know combined. _Man_ |
| What I find interesting reading through these forums and others is the cut off the nose to spite the face attitude of some of the HD DVD supporters. It seems they would rather see HDM as a whole die then to have to go out and buy a BD player. What kind of attitude is that? To invest so much emotion into a piece of hardware is just plain silly. |
| I (and others I'm sure) would buy a BR player that meets the final 2.0 spec but there are none available now. |
| 2.0 is only important if you want to participate in online features. |
1080p High Definition SupporterLossless Audio Supporter Current Library: 221 DVD's / 70 HD-DVD's / 181 Blu-ray's (251 HD Titles)
| I think retail will make the decision for Toshiba. Even if Toshiba continues to make players, they need somewhere to sell them. I doubt Best Buy, Walmart and others are going to stock them as the next HD format since Blu-Ray has 70% of the content. |
