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From an article in tomorrow's (01/07/08) Wall Street Journal:

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The outcome of the high-definition DVD battle remained uncertain until the final days before the annual Consumer Electronics Show, kicking off now in Las Vegas, where both sides like to make big announcements concerning their formats. Toshiba was still working hard last week to court Warner and News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox to use HD DVD exclusively. Warner was considering it, people familiar with the matter say, but when it realized Fox wouldn't leave Blu-ray, decided to go with Blu-ray exclusively as well, to bring an end to the format war. A Blu-ray win is important for Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer, who made it part of his mission to beef up the content and software offerings in a notoriously hardware-centric company when he took the helm 2½ years ago. As Sony nears completion of a three-year turnaround plan, Mr. Stringer also told reporters in Tokyo last month that driving innovation would be his next goal.

Over the last couple of years, Mr. Stringer, a former movie executive, was involved in many discussions with studios Sony was courting, people familiar with the matter say.

Toshiba, which conceded Friday that the Warner Bros. move is a "setback," is expected to continue making its case for HD DVD, at least for awhile. Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc., plans to continue to support the HD DVD format, a spokeswoman said yesterday. The other remaining Hollywood supporter, General Electric Co.'s Universal Pictures, declined to comment.

This is the first credible published evidence I've seen that Fox was somehow involved in the Warner deal. But the article only states that Toshiba was actively courting Fox, not that Fox was seriously considering going HD-DVD exclusive or "playing" Toshiba by promising one thing and then doing another.

Also of note: Toshiba and Paramount look to continue fighting the fight. But as for Universal . . . ?

 

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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Warner Brothers is now Blu-ray Exclusive

Yes that hardly sounds like the 'information' being reported and spread here that Fox was ready to drop BD but changed their mind. Fox is firmly in the BD camp and has always been that way.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Warner Brothers is now Blu-ray Exclusive

Well, considering the terms of the Paramount deal of three months ago to support HD DVD exclusively, it's not really a surprise that they will continue to support the format. The no comment from Universal, while not necessarily indicative of anything, is a bit surprising. I would have expected the three companies to circle the wagons and give a unified view of their ongoing support.
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Toshiba, which conceded Friday that the Warner Bros. move is a "setback," is expected to continue making its case for HD DVD, at least for awhile. Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc., plans to continue to support the HD DVD format, a spokeswoman said yesterday. The other remaining Hollywood supporter, General Electric Co.'s Universal Pictures, declined to comment.

Where did Paramount make such a statement? I'd love to see it. Unless it was a private statement directly for the wall street journal, it should be available to see.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Warner Brothers is now Blu-ray Exclusive

I was "neutral" until the weekend before Christmas when i bought the Xbox HD add on at Toys R Us for $130.

I am a bit upset that Warner did not made this decision before Christmas. I find it hard to believe that there was not a conscious decision on someone's part to wait until after Christmas to make this announcement.

With that said, IF the war is over, I am happy. I drastically reduced buying SD DVD waiting for the war to end. Unfortunately, an irresistable impulse buy the week before Christmas cost me a few 100$ for the proverbial "dead horse".
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But I really was hoping for the "war" to drag on to be honest. I don't think it was hurting nearly as much as people think. To me it was having the impact Ron mentioned at the start of this thread, improving prices and product.

I completely disagree with this.

This "war" is doing more damage than good. There may have been a couple of upsides in all this, such as lower prices and product improvements, but this on-going "war" is hurting the chances high-def movies (HDMs) have of being mass adopted by consumers. The longer this "war" continues, the more likely consumers will simply overlook HDMs and stick with DVDs, and the more likely it seems that HDMs will simply become another "niche" market.

If we want HDMs to become mainstream we need only one unified format. This will allow studios and player manufacturers to promote them by educating the consumer, economies of scale kick in and prices begin to drop. This is why this war needs to end now, not next month, not next year, now.

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Where did Paramount make such a statement? I'd love to see it. Unless it was a private statement directly for the wall street journal, it should be available to see.

I assume it was a statement provided for The Journal's reporters. We'll see if their CES presentation (is there one?) stays true to the expected tune.

 

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If we want HDMs to become mainstream we need only one unified format. This will allow studios and player manufacturers to promote them by educating the consumer, economies of scale kick in and prices begin to drop. This is why this war needs to end now, not next month, not next year, now.

A proposition that will either be proved or disproved in the coming year. I am of the opinion that the 'war' drove improvements in players and hardware and software prices; and that a cessation of the competition will eliminate the software sales that lessened the impact of next generation media prices and slow down player advancements.

I hope that the advocates of ending the 'war' are correct and that I am incorrect. Time will tell.

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A proposition that will either be proved or disproved in the coming year. I am of the opinion that the 'war' drove improvements in players and hardware and software prices; and that a cessation of the competition will eliminate the software sales that lessened the impact of next generation media prices and slow down player advancements.

I hope that the advocates of ending the 'war' are correct and that I am incorrect. Time will tell.

- Walter.

There will still be competition between studios for software sales, which will help control that sale price, while player manufacturers will compete to get your hardware dollar, which will help control player prices.
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you're not the only one that firmly believes that Walter.
Like You I look forward to being proved wrong.

Now how long do you think that's gonna take?
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I fully do not agree that what happens in the next year is an indicator of whether or not HDM is doomed.

First of all: the format war is not over until HD-DVD officially bows out and all major studios support Blu-Ray. Those of us "in the know" understand that WB's announcement is close to a death knell for HD-DVD, but until their product is off store shelves, there is still going to be the mass consumer confusion/indifference. With Paramount signed on for potentially another 15 months, HD-DVD may not concede until 2009 [or later, if Toshiba really wants to see this through to the end], thus things will still be muddled for consumers for much of 2008.

And think about this: it took over a year for DVD hardware to ship one million units (not sell, ship). And I'm counting from the official nationwide launch, not counting the six month, seven test city period. DVD had no rival, no competition at the time, as VHS was largely a rental format and LD was a small niche device. If you look at that chart, DVD player sales don't take off until 1999, which is the year after all seven studios supported DVD (I think Disney and the other holdouts joined some time in 1998). Neither HD format can currently claim either 1) a lack of competing format, or 2) complete studio support, as of now or the near future, so it isn't fair to judge their success/failure by current or near-future standards.

Interestingly, though, as I linked to, it took about a year or so for DVD to hit 1 million hardware units shipped. HD-DVD claims 750K players sold and BD claims 2.7 million players (both figures include game consoles/add-ons so are admittedly inflated), which when you compare with the first year-plus of DVD's release doesn't look too shabby. Also remember that the late 90s were economically very different than today - dot com hadn't changed to dot bomb yet (2000-1), gas prices were around $1.50 per gallon, the housing market hadn't begun to crash, the nation wasn't facing a looming recession, hadn't gone through 9/11, the country wasn't involved in a war, the dollar was much stronger. All things which play a big factor in consumer spending.

DVD really took off in the second holiday season without competition, its first with full studio support, so I think it's only fair to give its successor at least that long. Even if HD-DVD were to bow out tomorrow, the 2008 holiday season would be the first that BD would have without competition/confusion, and probably won't have full studio support until 2009.

All I'm saying is: give it a real chance. Don't judge it based on what happens in the next 12 months because, as I've pointed out above, it wouldn't be fair.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Warner Brothers is now Blu-ray Exclusive

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From an article in tomorrow's (01/07/08) Wall Street Journal:



This is the first credible published evidence I've seen that Fox was somehow involved in the Warner deal. But the article only states that Toshiba was actively courting Fox, not that Fox was seriously considering going HD-DVD exclusive or "playing" Toshiba by promising one thing and then doing another.

Also of note: Toshiba and Paramount look to continue fighting the fight. But as for Universal . . . ?
Uh Oh, Universal not standing strong behind the format they helped build? Now when HD DVD needs the support the most? This can't be good, no matter how you read it. Paramount is legally bound, so them standing behind HD DVD really doesn't mean a whole lot. Since they can't leave without it costing them. It appears Universal is not in the same boat. Wow, this is getting more and more interresting as days go by.

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I agree with you to a certain extent Carlo- but the format DVD was supplanting was entirely different. DVD was offering a major upgrade of conveniences- form factor, ergonomics, space savings, cost. Random access was as much if not more of a draw than improved a/v quality.
DVD also took advantage of the rise of the internet as both a marketing (pro and am) and retail tool.

These were major differences over the then current standard.
What do HDMs offer in comparision? Better A/V? Translucent menus?
It is going to be slow because the main thing they offer (quality) is not what the mass consumer sees as a 'sexy' incentive. It is what the enthusiast sees as sexy.
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I agree with you to a certain extent Carlo- but the format DVD was supplanting was entirely different. DVD was offering a major upgrade of conveniences- form factor, ergonomics, space savings, cost. Random access was as much if not more of a draw than improved a/v quality.
DVD also took advantage of the rise of the internet as both a marketing (pro and am) and retail tool.

These were major differences over the then current standard.
What do HDMs offer in comparision? Better A/V? Translucent menus?
It is going to be slow because the main thing they offer (quality) is not what the mass consumer sees as a 'sexy' incentive. It is what the enthusiast sees as sexy.
And I do agree with most of what you've written. And despite that, the sales figures for HD/BD, with competition and confusion and indifference, compare favorably thus far with DVD's launch. With all you noted above DVD should have blown HDM's launch out of the water (and remember DVD was touted as the best format launch in the history of home video).

So I guess all I'm saying is: things aren't as bad as they seem, and before people decide to bury HDM, give it a chance to prove itself with a truly unified and fully supported product. This means one true format (the other must withdraw from store shelves) and all major studios releasing product on it.
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Geez, the news you miss when you're offline for a couple of days...

This holiday season, I was prepared to invest in both HD and Blu thanks to some hardcore gate-crasher standalone specials on Boxing Day. I could do both for $300 if I got lucky, and I could benefit from both until the war was over.

I lost out on $100 Toshiba A3 HD, but did get a $200 Samsung BD1200 (refurbished) and updated the firmware, and just luckily enough timed in on an Amazon BD BOGO. To make matters more interesting, I invested $250 in a new LG superdrive (BD/HD/DVD+DL/etc.) for my PC, and can get my hands on those Universal and Paramount HD exclusives. Plus, Roy Orbison's B&W Night on HD seems more likely than ever to be on my shelves now.

The war may be over, but I can still see myself benefitting from it for some time.

My first Blu-Rays? The Road Warrior and Coppola's Dracula. The audio potiential of uncompressed PCM was my lynchpin. Also having purchased a Sony AVC camcorder this summer made Blu the likely venture. There are a lot of DVD authoring software packages ready with AVC and BD-R support.

That it all came down to an 11th-hour decision before CES (thus harpooning Toshiba's big potential announcement) and after Christmas just floored me. I gave the battle one more year before the outcome could be considered settled.

And yes, on a tube-type flatscreen HD television, you can certainly see the difference between SD and HDM media. LCD may be cheap but it certainly doesn't give the results.

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Yes that hardly sounds like the 'information' being reported and spread here that Fox was ready to drop BD but changed their mind. Fox is firmly in the BD camp and has always been that way.

Fox's lackluster support of blu-ray hasn't suggested to me that they are firmly in the BD camp. In fact I often joked that with friends like Fox, BD doesn't need enemies!

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I completely disagree with this.

This "war" is doing more damage than good. There may have been a couple of upsides in all this, such as lower prices and product improvements, but this on-going "war" is hurting the chances high-def movies (HDMs) have of being mass adopted by consumers. The longer this "war" continues, the more likely consumers will simply overlook HDMs and stick with DVDs, and the more likely it seems that HDMs will simply become another "niche" market.

If we want HDMs to become mainstream we need only one unified format. This will allow studios and player manufacturers to promote them by educating the consumer, economies of scale kick in and prices begin to drop. This is why this war needs to end now, not next month, not next year, now.

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I fully do not agree that what happens in the next year is an indicator of whether or not HDM is doomed.

First of all: the format war is not over until HD-DVD officially bows out and all major studios support Blu-Ray. Those of us "in the know" understand that WB's announcement is close to a death knell for HD-DVD, but until their product is off store shelves, there is still going to be the mass consumer confusion/indifference. With Paramount signed on for potentially another 15 months, HD-DVD may not concede until 2009 [or later, if Toshiba really wants to see this through to the end], thus things will still be muddled for consumers for much of 2008.

And think about this: it took over a year for DVD hardware to ship one million units (not sell, ship). And I'm counting from the official nationwide launch, not counting the six month, seven test city period. DVD had no rival, no competition at the time, as VHS was largely a rental format and LD was a small niche device. If you look at that chart, DVD player sales don't take off until 1999, which is the year after all seven studios supported DVD (I think Disney and the other holdouts joined some time in 1998). Neither HD format can currently claim either 1) a lack of competing format, or 2) complete studio support, as of now or the near future, so it isn't fair to judge their success/failure by current or near-future standards.

Interestingly, though, as I linked to, it took about a year or so for DVD to hit 1 million hardware units shipped. HD-DVD claims 750K players sold and BD claims 2.7 million players (both figures include game consoles/add-ons so are admittedly inflated), which when you compare with the first year-plus of DVD's release doesn't look too shabby. Also remember that the late 90s were economically very different than today - dot com hadn't changed to dot bomb yet (2000-1), gas prices were around $1.50 per gallon, the housing market hadn't begun to crash, the nation wasn't facing a looming recession, hadn't gone through 9/11, the country wasn't involved in a war, the dollar was much stronger. All things which play a big factor in consumer spending.

DVD really took off in the second holiday season without competition, its first with full studio support, so I think it's only fair to give its successor at least that long. Even if HD-DVD were to bow out tomorrow, the 2008 holiday season would be the first that BD would have without competition/confusion, and probably won't have full studio support until 2009.

All I'm saying is: give it a real chance. Don't judge it based on what happens in the next 12 months because, as I've pointed out above, it wouldn't be fair.

And the big advantage that DVD had was that 99% of homes had a TV that could show DVDs, or at least show them with an RF adapter. Blu-ray and HD DVD only have about 28% of homes with an HDTV. It's going to be a long while before we have the kind of market penetration of DVD.

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Fox's lackluster support of blu-ray hasn't suggested to me that they are firmly in the BD camp. In fact I often joked that with friends like Fox, BD doesn't need enemies!

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Funny thing is, with all their cancellations and 5 month absence, they still managed to release more than Paramount.

Since Paramount/DreamWorks went HD DVD exclusive, they only released about 13 titles in 2007.

From October through December 2007, Fox/MGM released around 20.

It's too bad Paramount's move didn't result in more titles released.

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Funny thing is, with all their cancellations and 5 month absence, they still managed to release more than Paramount.

Since Paramount/DreamWorks went HD DVD exclusive, they only released about 13 titles in 2007.

From October through December 2007, Fox/MGM released around 20.

It's too bad Paramount's move didn't result in more titles released.

Oh I agree with you there, Paramount didn't do much for HD DVD.

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Fox is firmly in the BD camp and has always been that way.

If I were a gambling man I would not place a bet on that.

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the format war is not over until HD-DVD officially bows out and all major studios support Blu-Ray.

Thank You, Carlo. That is the position this forum is going to continue
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Out of respect for HD-DVD we aren't going to declare a winner
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can't compare what is happening now to the dvd years. Dvd compared to VHS was a night and day difference that anyone with a tv could enjoy. not everyone has the capabilities to enjoy blu-ray/hddvd, and there is not much of a difference (to the average consumer). Plus most people still don't even know anything about this so called war. I also believe that hddvd isn't dead yet, I think they will cut there prices again making it more attractive to the average consumer who is picking up his/her brand new hdtv. It will take a very long time for everyone to switch to HDM, and by then blu-ray will have lost the war also because there will be no reason to buy media when you can just download it. Both formats were dead before it began, blu-ray will just last a little longer.
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If I were a gambling man I would not place a bet on that.



Thank You, Carlo. That is the position this forum is going to continue
to take.

Out of respect for HD-DVD we aren't going to declare a winner
until the other side completely bows out.

Ron,

I think retail will make the decision for Toshiba. Even if Toshiba continues to make players, they need somewhere to sell them. I doubt Best Buy, Walmart and others are going to stock them as the next HD format since Blu-Ray has 70% of the content.

If Universal felt pressure before, then I hate to see what the pressure is now to support Blu-ray. I bet they wish they were with Warner and took a deal. Universal will be the next studio to either go neutral or just switch to Blu-ray. This has nothing to do with which side I support, it is just good business. The studios want to sell movies and make money, no matter what format. To do that, they need a format that distributes mass amounts of discs or they are compensated. Which is probably what happens with PSP movies.

If we follow the betamax war, Paramount will have no choice but to release movies in Blu-ray. I hope they were smart enough to have a hardware sales figure that HD-DVD has to meet each quarter for the contract to stay in place.

At least it took only a couple of years to get to this point. Didn't the betamax/vhs war take 10 years?

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Generally speaking, I still say HD appeals mostly to 3 types...

The younger "resolution obsessed",people like ourselves,and more welloff who like their toys.

Most average joe whos struggling to pay his bills just doesnt care and wont until everything HD (hardware/software) reaches standard prices.

I STILL know people who connect their DVD players to their TVs using those yellow,red and white wires
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At least we can now move forward with one format and hopefully turn
the masses away from sDVD and towards Blu-ray.

Don't count on it, Ron... there are plenty of happy fence sitters like myself still here, supporting SD. While I am pleased that it finally sounds like the format war may indeed be on the road to its conclusion (it was always idiotic to have two competing HD formats) I am in no hurry. I've predicted from the very start of this, a year and a half ago or whenever it was, that the only way any HD format would replace SD is if the companies forced it on the Average Joes and stopped producing regular DVDs. Otherwise, HD will remain a niche item.
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Don't count on it, Ron... there are plenty of happy fence sitters like myself still here, supporting SD. While I am pleased that it finally sounds like the format war may indeed be on the road to its conclusion (it was always idiotic to have two competing HD formats) I am in no hurry. I've predicted from the very start of this, a year and a half ago or whenever it was, that the only way any HD format would replace SD is if the companies forced it on the Average Joes and stopped producing regular DVDs. Otherwise, HD will remain a niche item.
Whenever, I read such comments, I really wonder if people that feel that way have actually watch a movie on HDM from beginning to end? If so, was the presentation presented properly both audio and video-wise so you can hear and see the full benefits of HDM?
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Furthermore, I'm very happy now for those HTF members that haven't even bought any type of HD/BR player, but really wanted to, but were afraid of investing in the losing format. Now, very soon, those members can see and hear what I've been experiencing for over the last 17 months or so. To me, it's always been about the movies, first and foremost.

Same here, which is why I've been content with my SD and haven't felt the need to "up-up-up-grade" yet again with HD. To me it's about the movies moreso than yet another A/V boost .
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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
Whenever, I read such comments, I really wonder if people that feel that way have actually watch a movie on HDM from beginning to end?

Admittedly, no - but I've seen displays in stores, and frankly it looks overdone in some cases (I don't really need or want to see razor burn or pock marks in Adam Sandler's skin in ClICK). Even in real life things aren't as easily noticeable. I'll be 46 this year and although I've always enjoyed 20-20 vision, my eyes are not as keen as they once were lately, anyway. I've also read observations from many who either do own HDM or have seen others', and they say it's not that much of a leap, at least depending on the specific title in question. Then somebody usually starts with an array of special wirings and gadgets and settings required to "get the full benefit".. but hey, I just wanna enjoy a movie...

I realize that I am venturing into exclusively "pro-HD territory" in this section of the forum, but I have read up to 15 pages (so far) to see what members are feeling and thinking. By the way, I do agree with you, Robert, that it's nobody's fault but their own that they rolled the dice and chose HD-DVD and now are left holding the bag.
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1/7/08 at 6:32am
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Re: Breaking News!! Warner is now Blu-Ray Exclusive!

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the format war is not over until HD-DVD officially bows out and all major studios support Blu-Ray.
Correct but I think the media all but killed HD DVD. Every article seems to tout "HD DVD Dead". Perception is half the battle.

The BDA's marketing team is the real victor here. That's where HD DVD really "lost" the battle. They had a lead and failed to market their stuff quick enough before the BR freight train got going.
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1/7/08 at 6:52am
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Re: Breaking News!! Warner is now Blu-Ray Exclusive!

...and not a moment too soon IMO.
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