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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
I bailed from work early because someone offered me a ride home. Otherwise, it was an unknown wait for the bus and then who knows how long the normally 45-minute trip would take.
Probably telecommuting tomorrow, even though I don't get very much done when I do.
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
I've got to work tonight. At least I've got studded snow tires.
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
I think in conditions like yesterday, everybody leaves early so I'm in the mindset to NOT leave early and then I'll have the roads to myself at my normal departure hour. Of course, we had our holiday party last night so no way I'm missing free food and with everybody skipping out, a better chance at the door prizes!!!
I also try to do the polar opposite of what "everybody" says to do, i.e. stick to the main roads and highways. I will drive all the back roads because they are generally empty, unlike the zillions of other bozos in SUVs going 50mph in ice on the highways. I have a Subaru and I do quite fine with 4 snow tires. I passed some huge ass Expedition in the trees off a side road I have to go up with the cops there and the folks there standing around. I had to smile and wave..
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
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Originally Posted by Garrett Lundy
I've got to work tonight. At least I've got studded snow tires.
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Studded snow tires? Where do you live? My state, Minnesota, banned studded snow tires 30 years ago due to the damage they did to the roads. I had to dig out all the studs on my tires. I really would like to go back to studs as they are wonderful on ice, but they are noisy when it's dry and we have enough problems maintaining our roads as is without adding damage from studs.
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
Studded snow tires are legal throughout the west. Regular SALT on the roads is banned here as it caused more damage than studded tires did.
Here's a link with a schedule of the dates that studded tires are legal in various western states.
http://itd.idaho.gov/highways/Winter...dedTire.03.htm
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- Joined: October 1998
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
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Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls
Studded snow tires are legal throughout the west. Regular SALT on the roads is banned here as it caused more damage than studded tires did.
Here's a link with a schedule of the dates that studded tires are legal in various western states. http://itd.idaho.gov/highways/Winter...dedTire.03.htm |
I had no idea they were legal anywhere. Minnesota uses salt - huge amounts of salt. Makes for very rusty vehicles if you don't wash frequently. But then there is this statement from that site:
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Which is what happened in Minnesota. I just don't see salt causing more road damage than studded tires. I've experienced both. Salt does cause an awful lot of damage to car bodies and I suppose it doesn't do a lot of positive things to the environment.
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
The salt rusts out the steel in bridges causing them to collapse. Replacing a bridge is a lot more expensive than adding some asphalt from time to time.
Didn't a salt-rusted bridge in Minneapolis just collapse, killing dozens of people?
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
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Yeah, a pretty big one. Total killed was 13. The official cause of the bridge collapse hasn't been released yet, but very likely rust was at least a contributing factor. It might not have been had the bridge been better designed. For one thing, it was difficult to observe potential rust areas because bird dung covered it and these areas were difficult to reach - nobody wanted to crawl over the bird crap.
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
I believe a lot of the states in the northeast allow studded tires between certain months. I.E. Don't be driving them in July!
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Re: Staying in or braving traffic?
I just checked the Yahoo weather forecast for my area and it said "Blizzard." Gotta love that. Unfortunately, I have to go out tomorrow for an exam. Good thing I have an AWD car with four new snow tires.
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Originally Posted by alan halvorson
Studded snow tires? Where do you live? My state, Minnesota, banned studded snow tires 30 years ago due to the damage they did to the roads.
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New York, my company has been buying studded tires at the local shop for 10 years anyway, so if they are illegal, nobody enforces it. The roads will be sanded and/or salted depending on township DOT budget.
I, and many others, believe annual freezing and thawing damage blacktop far more than salt, sand, studs, tractors, and steel amish buggy wheels combined. (I don't see how people think studs can create six inch wide fissures that spand from one side of the road across two lanes and onto the other shoulder). Plows don't help as the blades catch the summer patches (tarsnakes) and rip them off like old bandaids.
"Did you know that more people are murdered at 92 degrees Fahrenheit than any other temperature? I read an article once. Lower temperatures, people are easy-going, over 92 and it's too hot to move, but just 92, people get irritable."
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Originally Posted by alan halvorson
Salt does cause an awful lot of damage to car bodies and I suppose it doesn't do a lot of positive things to the environment.
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The northeast has a healthy car turnover rate because of salt. I imagine its the opposite in Arizona where you have used cars with pristine sheetmetal and junked motors.
"Did you know that more people are murdered at 92 degrees Fahrenheit than any other temperature? I read an article once. Lower temperatures, people are easy-going, over 92 and it's too hot to move, but just 92, people get irritable."
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Originally Posted by JonZ
What Id like to know is why are people so lazy that they dont take the time to clean the ice off their cars so when it breaks off their hood or top in one piece they theyre not hurling huge ice projectiles at people at 70 miles a hour on the highway.
I was able to dodge 2 of them, but a third hit my windshield so hard it broke both of my wipers. Douchebags.
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Wow. Sorry to hear that, Jon.
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