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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Apparently even a jump in blu-ray sales hasn't helped stop the decline in home video sales as a whole
Also the fact that BluRay is still new, costs more than regular DVDs, and the average consumer isn't ready to make that expensive jump waiting for player (and disc) prices to drop as with any new technology. I know I am which only adds to the slump.

Then also the average consumer isn't "up" with the latest technology. I can ask various people where I work about BluRay and they go HUH??? They barely get around standard DVD and extras don't mean much to them. So as far as they know their old DVD collection is toast. Just like many I have encountered about this 2009 analog to digital television braodcasting thing coming - people with cable are in fear they will loose their shows and not aware (or not paying attention) that it is only people without cable that should be concerned. Lack of education... Lack of exposure... Simplified minds.

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Just like many I have encountered about this 2009 analog to digital television braodcasting thing coming - people with cable are in fear they will loose their shows and not aware (or not paying attention) that it is only people without cable that should be concerned.
Not to continue off topic but for months I saw FCC-produced commercials that spread the same misinformation by saying that your TV wasn't going to work after February 17, 2009. It was only recently that I saw commercials where they said that if you would only be effected if you used an antenna to view television. If the people behind the change can't even inform the public correctly, what hope do they have?
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

this won't necessarily jibe with what I posted earlier- but I always found it interesting that few people took notice that Warner decided to forego all its potential royalties from the HD DVD format and instead likely took a huge incentive from the BDA. Bd supporters mostly spun this as Warner 'knowing' Bd had the greater mass market potential in the long run, but the fact is leading up to that announcement was a lot of concern they would abandon Bd and go HD DVD exclusive. While that wouldn't have ended things as decisively or as quickly, just about everyone conceded that whichever format Warner picked would ultimately prevail due to the aggressive way they've released content on sd dvd in the past. What I would like to know is- hasn't Warners past aggressiveness been subsidized by all the other studios releasing product? Doesn't Warner share in the royalties associated with sd dvd? Fox may not have made much with Betty Grable or Mike Shayne sets, but didn't the release of those sets kick a few schekles back to Warner with which it could subsidize some of its own more esoteric packages? You might think that other studios slowing down would leave a wider field open for Warner to run around on...but not if they are using the dividends from other studios product to subsidize their more limited appeal output. If other studios contract their output, then it follows Warner would too. I don't know if this is accurate, I'm just throwing it out as a theory for the slowdown, as well as to support the predicition that their Bd release output won't be nearly as aggressive as many anticipated- especially since there is no longer a format war to be used as an excuse ( though I do expect Dark Knight and Speed Racer to do greater than 10% of total sales on Bd. They'll be huge).
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

I am always puzzled that video games sales are better than dvd or cds.

Should that not be the other way

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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I am always puzzled that video games sales are better than dvd or cds.

Should that not be the other way
It's due to the fact the pricing for VG's are usually $59.99 new. So in effect it should be how many units were sold, not how much money they got.
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any idea why VG are always more expensive ?

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

Sales are probably also down due to the number of people who illegally download or burn movies.
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Sales are probably also down due to the number of people who illegally download or burn movies.
That's not always the case. Someone might watch a movie they download and might like the movie in question so much they buy it online. Methinks that's what Warner Bros. could do in a sense for TCM. Offer films to download on a site which they're considering releasing. Based upon users downloading said film and the rating they get, could very well prompt them to give the film higher priority to restore and release onto DVD. Of course I'd obviously be extremely biased wanting Errol Flynn and John Garfield films to be released.
Could even be from TCM.com even. Beats the hell out of DVR'ing the film and then transferring it to DVD. I'd rather have a complete copy on DVD with the menus and the whole shebang. Yes, I'm extremely eager for to owning all of Errol Flynn's films on DVD through proper releases. Could even have feedback and such which TCM.com uses. If it were up to me, I'd be releasing far more Errol Flynn content. I do quite enjoy the fact you can choose in the extras menu to watch the film in question with how it was first screened back in the day with the newsreel, shorts and animated stuff. Gives the perfect sense of time long since past and creates that vibe you're practically there.
I don't even get the deal or concept with that "Digital Copy" nonsense. Complete waste of time if you asked me.
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

So much for Warner not releasing any catalog titles. Time to update the Warner listing:

DVD Times - How The West Won R1 UCE in August

DVD Times - Errol Flynn Westerns (R1) in August

DVD Times - Warner Western Classics Collection (R1) in August
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

How are those long-promised Bowery Boys films coming along?
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Great for those who likes westerns but how about Horror, Sci-Fi, and Action Classics? Not to mention the long awaited War and War-Musical films?

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Great for those who likes westerns but how about Horror, Sci-Fi, and Action Classics? Not to mention the long awaited War and War-Musical films?

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Great for those who likes westerns but how about Horror, Sci-Fi, and Action Classics?
Eric

Crikey!!!

There is some Boris Karloff and Peter Lorre horror coming from Warner in the 4th quarter (probably around Halloween) and Warners said last week that the wartime films are coming; they just want to get them right.

There are stacks of films I want out on DVD, but whatever is put out for now, I am quite happy with.
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Sales are probably also down due to the number of people who illegally download or burn movies.

Add to that there are sites where someone doesn't even have to download, just watch films. That and Netflix/Blockbuster where the studios get one sale that many will (ultimately) watch. Consumers 'turning' their purchases more. What with Ebay and Amazonmarketplace and the like, people can sell the stuff and obviously those sales make a dent in the studio catalog sales.

But times also change. People won't want to hear this but younger consumers are different:

1. Many more things to compete for their eyeballs, (video games, youtube, cable, mp3s, text messaging, Internet etc.

2. Shorter attention spans

That not a criticisim, that's just a reality. Yes, young people go to movies and purchase DVDs but spending two hours watching something must complete with someone very comfortable with posting comments on MySpace, Facebook, Instant messaging, listening to music and downloading something ALL at the same time.

Not just films, take a look at book sales. Ignoring blockbusters like Harry Potter, younger people don't read as much as the prior generations.
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Add to that there are sites where someone doesn't even have to download, just watch films. That and Netflix/Blockbuster where the studios get one sale that many will (ultimately) watch. Consumers 'turning' their purchases more. What with Ebay and Amazonmarketplace and the like, people can sell the stuff and obviously those sales make a dent in the studio catalog sales.

But times also change. People won't want to hear this but younger consumers are different:

1. Many more things to compete for their eyeballs, (video games, youtube, cable, mp3s, text messaging, Internet etc.

2. Shorter attention spans

That not a criticisim, that's just a reality. Yes, young people go to movies and purchase DVDs but spending two hours watching something must complete with someone very comfortable with posting comments on MySpace, Facebook, Instant messaging, listening to music and downloading something ALL at the same time.

Not just films, take a look at book sales. Ignoring blockbusters like Harry Potter, younger people don't read as much as the prior generations.
Sad but true!

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1. All This, And Heaven, Too
2. Watch on the Rhine
3. The Old Maid
4. Deception
5. In This Our Life
6. The Great Lie
7. Sadie McKee
8. Strange Cargo
9. A Woman's Face
10. Flamingo Road
11. Torch Song
12. The Divorcee
13. A Free Soul
14. Three On A Match
15. Night Nurse
16. Female
17. Bonnie & Clyde SE
18. Pete Kelly's Blues
19. Hit the Deck
20. Two Weeks With Love
21. Nancy Goes to Rio
22. Broadway Melody of 1936
23. Broadway Melody of 1938
24. Kismet
25. Deep In My Heart
26. Born to Dance
27. Lady Be Good
28. The Mayor of Hell
29. Picture Snatcher
30. Smart Money
31. Brother Orchid
32. Black Legion
33. Lady Killer
34. Blues in the Night
35. Some Came Running
36. It Happened in Brooklyn
37. The Kissing Bandit
38. The Tender Trap
39. Higher and Higher
40. Step Lively
41. Double Dynamite
42. Marriage on the Rocks
43. A Date With Judy
44. Merrill's Marauders
45. The Man With the Golden Arm SE
46. Sergeants 3
47. How the West Was Won SE
48. Montana
49. Virginia City
50. Rocky Mountain
51. San Antonio
52. Escape From Fort Bravo
53. The Law and Jake Wade
54. Many Rivers to Cross
55. Cimarron
56. Saddle the Wind
57. The Stalking Moon

Looks pretty bleak thus far. No titles for June.

updated the list.

Corey's most wanted R1 dvds:

Little Darlings (1980), My Cousin Rachel (1952), The Deep Blue Sea (1955), The White Cliffs of Dover (1944), Born to Be Bad (1950), Ivy (1947), Reckless (1935), Springtime in the Rockies (1942), The Barretts of Wimpole Street

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

Anyone heard any news on Cool Hand Luke?
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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QUO VADIS is due around March. Hopefully HOW THE WEST WAS WON will also be released in 2008 - maybe as an ultimate Edition?
Any news on this super restoration of "Quo Vardis"?

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

Time to add Cool Hand Luke to the listing.




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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Anyone heard any news on Cool Hand Luke?

Announced for September 9th - see this link:

Home Media Magazine - May 11-17, 2008

You'll need to zoom in, and look at the bottom of the page!

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Announced for September 9th - see this link:

Home Media Magazine - May 11-17, 2008

You'll need to zoom in, and look at the bottom of the page!
Ahhhh I got distracted by the page on the right.
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Ahhhh I got distracted by the page on the right.

I was wondering who would be the first to notice
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Looks like this thread has come to a near stand still over day after day posts here?

I am still wanting updates for the various packages mentioned coming but haven't seen street dates yet - like the War Musicals or Quo Vidas (1951)?

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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

Another Busby Berkeley boxset. Also, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is coming out with a SE. You might not consider it a classic, but I bet you Warner does.

DVD Times - Busby Berkeley Collection Volume 2 (R1) in September
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Fantastic news, I have not seen any of those films so this is a total must-buy for me.
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Excellent!

Berkeley's filmography is nearly complete on DVD. Are any of his major dance numbers left in the vault after this release?
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Can't wait for Busby Berkeley Vol. 2! I'm not a huge fan of musicals, but the first set remains one of my fave collections.


Re: One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest; a very fitting and adequate S.E. already exists. Why revisit this?

I know, I know... BluRay

Not necessary on SD-DVD though.
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PS - Who has the Cool Hand Luke artwork??
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Fantastic news, I have not seen any of those films so this is a total must-buy for me.

Indeed, a reason to celebrate!

What's even more impressive is that NONE of these films have ever been on home video before (No VHS/BETA, No Laser).

With the DVD business facing painful challenges (most significantly consumer ambivalence, retailer ignorance, and worst for all, the ecomonic state of the country), I applaud Warner's continued efforts to restore and release these important classics.
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Re: Speculation for Warner Bros. 85th Anniversary Celebration

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Excellent!

Berkeley's filmography is nearly complete on DVD. Are any of his major dance numbers left in the vault after this release?

Fashions of 1934 and Wonder Bar come to mind (one could quibble over "major"), but now with two boxes Warner is certainly doing right by Berkeley.
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