Re: Non-anamorphic DVDs tripped me up after Toshiba 2.7 firmware upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Paul.S
With the caveat that I can only refer to my experience, I disagree. The HD-D1 did this. The XA2 does not. Same display.
| A lot of TV's lock the screen to full 16:9 mode when they recieve progressive scan input. The HDMI connection gets around this by sending a full 16:9 signal with the "black bars" already encoded on the left and right side of the 16:9 signal. |
Again, I think it's problematic to make general statements about what should or will happen regarding set/aspect ratio behavior when, at least in my reading on these subjects, I've found so much variance from not only manuf to manuf but also within one particular manuf's product line. With regards to "Full" mode, what you describe above is NOT the way my Toshiba 34HDX82 set behaves, either with my HD-D1 or HD-XA2. The set locks into "Full" mode when fed ANY signal--progressive or interlaced--above 480p.
With regard to HDMI getting around the problem, again, I had an HD-D1 connected via HDMI and it did this. I now have an XA2 connected via HDMI and it does NOT do this.
Set the player to 1080i, and then once the dvd is playing, switch your tv to 4:3 mode.
Edit: I guess if that doesn't work then you could set the player to output only 480i. That should allow you to select 4:3 mode on your TV. Sucks, I know, but with that particular TV it may be your only option. |
In an abundance of caution/clarity, it should be said that, by "4:3 mode" here, Jeff, you're referring to the aspect ratio control via which the set zooms and variously stretches the IMAGE not the more straightforward choice in the player settings where you tell it what shape of physical TELEVISION you have (the choices are usually "4:3," "4:3 LBX" and "16:9"). On my Tosh, this setting's "4:3 mode" is called "Natural."
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Well yes, you're absolutely correct in that there is a wild variety in behavior of different types of sets, which is why I spoke in a general term, rather than being specific. As with what you say, I am only going off my own personal experience in how I have seen tv's behave, and what I've read about others. My suggestions were ways to try and get around the problem, and help diagnose what was going on. Since DaveyM's 'format' button on his remote still did not work when the player was set to output 480i, then I am now at a loss here.
This will be waaaaay out there, but Davey, just for kicks do you have an s-video connector? If so, try this: Connect the player to your tv via s-video only (disconnect all other video outputs from the player). Set your player to output 480i, and set your tv shape in the player to 16:9. Play a 4:3 non-anamorphic dvd and play with the 'Format' button on your remote. See if this does anything.
As a poster said above, "some" tv's will lock on full 16:9 mode with any signal, so let's see if it's the component signal. I have not heard of a tv locking on full from an s-video signal, so if this doesn't work, then it may indeed be the player and not the tv.
Agian, this is all only for testing, I certainly don't expect you to accept that this is the only way to watch your DVDs. I'm just trying to understand what's going on here.
One last question: Do you have a regular SD-DVD player that you can test on this set? Does it exhibit the same behaviour (over component)? This may also provide a clue as to whether the fault lies with the TV or the player.