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9/30/07 at 5:47pm
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Brothers and Sisters returns for their sophomore season.

What I can remember from last season's finale:

Justin got shipped off to Iraq.

Tommy and Julia are dealing with losing one of their twins (the son).

Kitty and Robert are engaged (had a crazy engagement party between the 2 families).

Joe and Sarah are going their separate ways, some of it due to Joe putting the moves on Rebecca (though Rebecca wasn't totally in the clear).

Saul is tempted by a past male friend's invitation.

Kevin is intrigued by Robert's brother.

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10/1/07 at 7:03am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

What a truly wonderful episode. The easy thing for the writers to do is have Joe and Sarah make up and get back together. They could move on to the next hurdle in their marriage, and as much as I like them together, keeping them apart and making it appear that Joe wants a divorce is an interesting angle.
The only character I'm tired of is Kevin. Please give this guy something to do other than whine. His woe is me antics are getting old.
Kitty and Robert were awesome and I like the friction between Kitty and Rebecca. Great job by both.
Sally Field was her usual stellar self but since her tirade at the Emmys, she doesn't really have to do much acting on the show any more. She just has to be herself.

Last season, this show slowly crept up my "top 10 show" list as the season progressed and now it is a top 3 show for me. Great start.
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10/1/07 at 8:58am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

I agree with Southpaw's accessment. It's too bad that Joe and Sarah appear to be splitting apart. I'm ther actor playing Kevin may wonder if that's all he will do!

One minor geeky comment, notice that Nora's laptop is a Mac. Unless it's old, it has a built-in camera and that ugly thing they stuck on the top of the display wasn't necessary. But I know it's TV and they need to visually give the audience a clue she's doing a video message. They could have at least used the discontinued Apple camera!
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10/1/07 at 9:43am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

I suspect Joe has met someone new, and found out that he couldn't quite go home again after he and Sarah did it one last time on the washing machine (spin cycle, I guess).

Kevin is still a whiney little beyotch, and I don't see him staying true while his priest boyfriend goes halfway around the world to build school.

Nora's screed at the Mexican restaurant just shows how self-indulgent she can be when pushed to her limits in terms of worrying for her son. It's not an attractive side of Nora. Now, the fight between Nora and Kitty at the bridal store was pretty funny, though.

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10/1/07 at 11:42am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

Patrick - yes, that scene at the bridal store was a big "laugh out loud" moment for me. Great stuff.
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10/2/07 at 10:15pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

I don't agree with everyone assessment that Kevin is whiny. No more than any other person on the show? Time for them to bring Scotty back now.
Loved the premiere episode although the Walkers fighting in public places is getting a bit old.
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10/3/07 at 8:12am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

The Walkers fighting in public places reminds me too much of my family, whenever we ate out at restaurants or on vacation.

I have finally caught up with the show, and enjoyed the season premiere.
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10/3/07 at 4:55pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

I hope the show gets more viewers after people watch the first season on DVD.
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10/7/07 at 8:13pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

I wonder if Lena (Emily Rose) is going to present some temptation to Tommy at the vineyard.

Pretty entertaining bit revolving around the conservation radio host and Kitty/Nora/Kevin.

Glad Justin made it back, even with a bum leg that will force him to entertain the use of narcotics to get through the early rough spots of recovery.

Sarah isn't having a good week, and Rebecca's confessional didn't help matters.

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10/8/07 at 12:53pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

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I wonder if Lena (Emily Rose) is going to present some temptation to Tommy at the vineyard.

It's such an obvious setup.

I'm sad about Joe and Sara. I remember my first impression of them as a couple when this show first began was that he was SO patient and sweet to her.
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10/8/07 at 9:06pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

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It's such an obvious setup.
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Maybe the producer wants to throw us off that Tommy will cheat on his wife.
Tommy is such a sweet guy. He was trying everything to please his wife but she's must be going through post partum depression thing. I don't think Tommy will do anything with Leena. But if you stick around till the end when they show preview of next week show it looks like
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he wife moved out to go live with her father though.


(Admin note - please put upcoming preview comments in spoiler text, as not everyone watches them, lest they spoil the upcoming episode.)
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 premiere 9/30/07

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Maybe the producer wants to throw us off that Tommy will cheat on his wife.
Tommy is such a sweet guy. He was trying everything to please his wife but she's must be going through post partum depression thing. I don't think Tommy will do anything with Leena. But if you stick around till the end when they show preview of next week show it looks like
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he wife moved out to go live with her father though.

I'm not saying Tommy will actually DO anything, but in Patrick's words, Leena's "going to present some temptation".

And Julia is still grieving over baby William, not only postpartum depression. . .
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10/14/07 at 8:20pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Well, no telling how Julia is going to remain out of the picture, but rest assured, when she returns, it's going to be at the worst possible moment for Tommy.

So glad Justin finally gave into the drugs to help him get over the pain, that storyline was about to overstay its welcome.

I could care less about Robert and his ex-wife. Is Marin Hinkle destined to playing the PITA ex-wife roles now?

Scott's back! Will Kevin be tempted yet again?

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10/14/07 at 9:20pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

I like Scotty and I think he and Kevin have good chemistry but I also like Jason.
I just wish Joe and Sarah would go ahead and have a quick divorce so he could be totally out of the picture. Sarah is so much better when she's not around him and having fun. Hopefully, we'll get to see something good from her next week.

Sally Field continues to bring her A game every episode.
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10/15/07 at 9:59am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

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....I just wish Joe and Sarah would go ahead and have a quick divorce so he could be totally out of the picture. Sarah is so much better when she's not around him and having fun. Hopefully, we'll get to see something good from her next week.

Sally Field continues to bring her A game every episode.

No storyline for her this week. She's was only in for about a minute and we don't see her the rest of the show. Must be nice working for a minute and probably get paid more than our whole year salary :-)
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10/15/07 at 1:56pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

I think it was about time that Sarah's storyline got a break, and we see more of Tommy's storyline, which seemed to be MIA during the last half of last season.
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10/15/07 at 3:26pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

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I think it was about time that Sarah's storyline got a break, and we see more of Tommy's storyline, which seemed to be MIA during the last half of last season.
As near as I could tell from preview for next week's show it appears Sarah storyline will be starting a new chapter.

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10/29/07 at 10:21am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Sarah temporarily losing custody was pretty sad (very good performance by Rachel Griffiths), but it's just temporary, the big battles are still to come. Joe definitely outflanked her in these early battles, but Sarah will come back with some better strategies (I hope).

Tommy is playing with fire, carrying on with Lena.

Justin is loading up on the painkillers, going back down the same road to addiction.

Kitty's preggers, and Robert finally said the right things, albeit on the air during a televised debate for his party's nomination. I'm having problems imagining Calista Flockhart putting on weight, even fake weight. Quite the challenge for the makeup and wardrobe department.

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10/29/07 at 12:27pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

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Sarah temporarily losing custody was pretty sad (very good performance by Rachel Griffiths), but it's just temporary, the big battles are still to come. Joe definitely outflanked her in these early battles, but Sarah will come back with some better strategies (I hope).

My immediate reaction was to feel for Sarah.

However, Joe was the stay-at-home dad. It makes logical sense that he would get custody. In the real world, I doubt that custody would have been handed to him that easily.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of this arc. And I hope it makes people think. Why should Sarah get custody just because she's the mother? Joe was the "mother" every day.

Interesting.
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10/29/07 at 2:21pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Sarah chose to pursue her successful career and leave daily parenting duties to Joe during their marriage, but now wants to do a flip and have primary custody. This would be analogous to an old fashioned stay-at-home mom losing custody to a workaholic dad.

I know we're supposed to feel sorry for Sarah, and hate Joe for his tactics but given the "mom always gets the kids, regardless" prejudice that permeates the family courts I don't blame him one bit for getting a head start on his uphill battle. For ever-so-progressive and liberal Nora to suddenly adopt a 50's attitude is highly hypocritical.

Sorry but I have little to no sympathy for Sarah.

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10/29/07 at 3:28pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

But I think Sarah is entitled to shared custody of the 2 children, plus she'll be the one doling out the child support because Joe doesn't make much money (while Sarah can make 5x of what Joe can pull down). That's the fair thing in this case. But Joe wants primary (full) custody of the 2 children once the divorce is finalized, and I can't see Sarah giving into that situation, at least not willingly.

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10/29/07 at 9:40pm
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

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Sarah chose to pursue her successful career and leave daily parenting duties to Joe during their marriage, but now wants to do a flip and have primary custody.

1. Joe and Sarah both decided that she would work and he would stay home since she makes much more money than him.

2. Sarah wants (and thought Joe did too) shared, not primary, custody. That seems fair to me.

I love scenes where the family is all together. They have a great dynamic. It makes me really miss my own family.
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11/1/07 at 7:57am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

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But I think Sarah is entitled to shared custody of the 2 children, plus she'll be the one doling out the child support because Joe doesn't make much money (while Sarah can make 5x of what Joe can pull down). That's the fair thing in this case. But Joe wants primary (full) custody of the 2 children once the divorce is finalized, and I can't see Sarah giving into that situation, at least not willingly.
I think every mother and father is entitled to shared custody. Unfortunately, all too often, custody has become a war to be fought. And the monetary stakes can be very high. In the state of Illinois, one child results in 20% of the non-custodial parent's net income as child support. It doesn't matter whether or not the custodial parent works or not. It doesn't matter if the money is spent on the child. But I digress.

I have to applaud Sarah. Even though she has her issues with Joe, she is very careful not to let the children know. And when her daughter overheard her argument with Joe, Sarah was quick to apologize. She truly seems to have the best interests of the children in mind.

In a better (not perfect, just better) world, all divorced parents would share parenting responsibilities equally. Custody should not be a battle to be won or lost.

I hope that this show helps people see the father's side. Even better, I hope it helps people see the children's side.
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11/5/07 at 4:45am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Paige's sudden departure from Sarah's home shine a light in Joe's direction, and he gives up temporary primary custody for temporary shared custoday of the children.

Kitty brings in a hired gun to do spin control the pregnancy and shotgun wedding, but all of that goes by the wayside when Kitty suffers an early miscarriage.

Justin is still hopped up on his painkillers, and can't resist Lena's flirtations, though Lena is flirting with some disaster of her own with Tommy.

Can't see how Kevin and Scotty living under one roof is going to make Kevin as chaste as he wants to be.

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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

FYI: New episode of Brothers and Sisters is on tonight.

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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Are you talking Sunday or Monday night?
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Are you talking Sunday or Monday night?

Patrick posted his reply at 8:18 pm on Sunday, so that meant the episode was on Sunday night. Does anyone know how many new episodes are left for this show. I was hopie the show will start expading more on the storylines for Steven Weber and Danny Glover characters. IMO, the storylines for the family members are getting a bit tiresome and predictable now.

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1/15/08 at 9:40am
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

I think there are 2 episodes left, which may air in Feburary.
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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

I was disappointed that they didn't give Rebecca's storyline more air time, considering it's one of the arc storylines.

How will this affect the family, not to mention Rebecca's mother and the money she received in the will.

I loved Kevin's proposal to Scotty, although you know he'll be even more neurotic than before.

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Re: Brothers and Sisters season 2 thread

Well, the deal to save the Walker business pretty much means Holly and Rebecca will be intertwined with the Walkers for some time to come.

Justin's reaction to Rebecca's revelation was so poorly written.

"I've the hots for you, but you're my half-sister."

"I'm not really your half-sister."

"You lied to me?!?!?! You are just like your devious mother!!!! Go away!!!"

Geez... way to make it all about you, Justin.

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