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What about speculation based on opinion? Is that concidered a spoiler?

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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What about speculation based on opinion? Is that concidered a spoiler?
As far as I'm concerned, if you're using 'knowledge' taken from a commercial or a news story, it's a spoiler. If you're just guessing what's going to happen based on nothing more than a hunch then it's not a spoiler.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

"The Case of the Cross-Dressing Carp"

Interesting episode with so many amusing one-liners. The episode has aired, the last time I looked, we could talk about it. If you haven't seen it yet; Warning, Spoilers below:



Grissom pops the question. Where will this end up?
Then Catherine's line about turning him on....and Greg's preoccupation with the past. Funny stuff.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Speculation based on stuff that has been around in the news:


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(BTW, I've been to CNN.com several times in the past few days and never saw any spoiler headlines related to this show. I'm just saying.)

I'm starting to think they may end up killing Sara off anyway, and pull a real surprise on the audience.

Last season's cliff-hanger certainly gave them an "out" with regard to Jorja Fox if she didn't return, but she clearly didn't want things to end that way even if she were leaving, and I don't think the producers did, either.

My initial thought was that they'd bring her back, go into full GSR mode to please the fans who have been rooting for the relationship, then have the two reluctantly go their separate ways after the "outing" of their romances forces them to make some choices.

My other, equally perverse, thought was that maybe Fox isn't quitting, having actually signed a contract extension over the summer, and that all the press has been hype and misdirection.

If Sara had turned Grissom's proposal down, or been unsure about it, I'd've been pretty sure we were on the road to plan "A". But since she said yes, I've been thinking about a darker possibility. They do the full-out GSR storyline that half the fans have wanted, the kill Sara off - possibly through some non-work, everyday tragedy - just when it looks like they're headed to happily ever after. (Which she please the other half of the fans who seem to hate Sara, or at least the GSR. )

The fact that Fox's last episode is in the middle of the critical November sweeps certainly suggests that whatever is going to happen is going to be something they can hype the hell out of.


I got a kick out of the way they avoided the inevitable kiss by having them in bee-keeping suits. The first on-screen kiss in one of these long-teased TV romances can be tricky. (Babylon 5, which had the advantage of a time travel angle in one storyline, arranged matters so that the "first kiss" the audience sees is the first kiss for the time-travelling male character, but not the first kiss for the female who lives in that future - who has kissed him thousands of times in the intervening years. The first kiss between them in "normal" time is their first kiss for her, but their second for him. Did I ever mention that time travel gives me a headache?

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10/19/07 at 7:18am
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On CNN.com, under the "Latest news" section, there was a headline that stated something like "Jorja Fox leaving 'CSI' "
The headline pretty much says it all. Any spoilerphobe would have read it before knowing what was happening.

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10/19/07 at 1:22pm
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Let's be rational about this spoiler question. Everyone who is a fan of this show, everyone knows it's Thursday at 9pm/8 Central (in the US). If you are such a fan of the show, you will tape it or tivo it in case you missed its broadcast. If you did miss it, and don't want to know what happened in the show before you get to see it, then why are you in this discussion? Watch the show and then join us!
So maybe you want to see posts for an older episode and don't want to accidently view a new discussion? Most of these posts are in chonological order, so if you don't want to see recent posts, don't go to the last page.
I will agree, there is no reason to discuss previews and Hollywood gossip. If you want that, go to the official CSI discussion forum.

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Sorry, but should I have spoilerized that link?
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Entertainment Weekly, this week, has an exclusive interview with Fox in which she is quite candid about what has been going on (including details about the well-publicized contract dust-ups between her and George Eads with CBS).

But only read it if you are okay with spoilers!

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Kinda slow on comments on last nights episode so i'll take that as it was forgettable? A.F.A. Halloween eps it was campy but not up to the standards of a regular ep. but I did enjoy the Docs watching horror movies in the morgue and critiquing the quality of the EFX .

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It was a pretty good episode. Focused more on Catherine and the other players. It was also obvious to me that they were transitioning, setting up something for Sara's character and the new CSI girl that the slimey movie producer was drooling over.

Also funny how the other lab tech girl, Wendy is revealed to have starred in a slasher flick and Hodges putting his foot in his mouth concerning her. Pretty bad CGI when the killer cut her in half. I suppose it was a jab at The Phantom Menace. And as this show is maturing, it's fun to see the other recurring characters show some more character development. I suppose it could make sense that David would love slasher flicks given his occupation as Doc Robbin's assistant.

Seems like a trend though that Catherine comes face to face at the end of the episode with suspects dying or dead in front of her.
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Pretty bad CGI when the killer cut her in half.

Nothing but quality effects work from Revulsion Pictures.

I've only become a CSI watcher recently and have been catching up on past episodes on SPIKE. I have to admit I'm hooked.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I found this episode to be a fun Halloween-style episode. And Hodges was right on about Wendy.

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I suppose it could make sense that David would love slasher flicks given his occupation as Doc Robbin's assistant.
Dave sounded like me talking about horror movies at the end of the episode.
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And Hodges was right on about Wendy.
I know... I got hooked on this show early, but it certainly entices me to keep watching to catch glimpses of Liz Vassey and Sheeri Rappaport.

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Was I the only that found it funny how early on the director was chastising the camera operator to go a little wide to include the funbags, and then later Ronnie gets the same treatment by the cameraman when she was in her scenes of terror?

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Patrick, even more than that, IIRC, Ronnie's blouse covered her cleavage throughout the episode...until the end. My wife took note of this, not me.

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Yeah, I was wondering where'd they come from because she never have them on display while working with Sarah in the previous episodes.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

BTW, this week is a crossover between CSI and Without a Trace (back to back), so if you only watch one of the shows, you'll be missing out on the other hour of the story.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

That's interesting that CSI is doing a crossover with a different show instead of the other spinoffs. Guess they want to keep Peterson happy.
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Apparently Petersen and LaPaglia wanted this to happen for a few years now, but it's only now that both shows found the right time to do it.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I thought last night's episode with the cross-over with Without a Trace, was very good. I loved the "pissing" contest that Grissom and Jack got into when they first met each other.

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It seemed a let down to me, the story wasn't that compelling, maybe cause I don't watch Without a Trace. Grissom is a very measured person, I wasn't looking for fireworks or expected any.

What I found more interesting were the subtle moments. The Sara moments adds more set-up for the upcoming episode. Won't mention it in case it's a spoiler for you.

Loved the line Jack says to Hodges about kiss-ups. And I liked how Grissom was being Grissom with the Blonde at the FBI "lab" when she met with him.
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I so wanted Sara to picked up that little murderous smartie-pants and shake some sense into her, and the truth out of her. Goodbye, Sara!

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Ave et vale Sara Sidle. I, for one, will miss her. She was an interesting character and she brought out a side of Grissom that nobody else did. I liked the callback to the freakish genius and her brother. Sara's ordeal with the Minature Killer now fits neatly into place, providing a big enough trauma to make her leaving Grissom plausible.

Liked the way after 7 1/2 years of teasing we finally get an on-screen kiss between the two of them - just before she walked out. All in all a good send-off for the character that doesn't betray what went before and leaves the door open for the future. Maybe if they decide to retire the show in another year or two Sara can come back in the finale, all healed and with her head on straight and she and Grissom can ride off into the sunset together.

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I so wanted Sara to picked up that little murderous smartie-pants and shake some sense into her, and the truth out of her.

Oh yes! Until her teeth rattled!



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Excellent episode. I have missed a few since the season premiere...but this one was extremely well done (as it pertains to their intent of framing her goodbye to the show).

Very interesting use of lighting throughout. And, I thought the score was extremely well done.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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I so wanted Sara to picked up that little murderous smartie-pants and shake some sense into her, and the truth out of her. Goodbye, Sara!

Do you remember what episode the little girl was in previously? I know I'd seen it and remember it pretty well, but for the life of me I can't remember what episode it was or from what season. After last night's, I'd definitely love to check it out again.
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"The Unusual Suspect", Season 6, Episode 18. IMDB is your friend.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

This farewell to Sara was a very well written episode. Although not needed, you should watch the previous episode with the child prodigy, but it does not take a genious to see Hannah wanted to use her genious as a form of power over people. She proved her point in the "Unusual Suspects", and here she thought she could manipulate things once again. What she did not figure was she does not have control over other people as she thought. She looked down on Marlon and thought she could rule him like an inferior being at her whim, but she could not control his eventual demise.
Sara's story was a slow build-up, starting with the domestic squabble, seeing Ronnie being the idealistic in trying to help. I imagine she saw herself that way at one time and now, her ideal has changed so much. She now understands the reality. It was further impacted on her to see she finally beat Hannah. It seem like a bittersweet victory. She won, but at what cost? Marlon's life, and now Hannah, broken down to her more infantile social level? She may have beaten a genius, but she beat a child with all the fears and insecurities of any other child that age. This story certainly put Sara's character into such depth, and now for those reasons, she is leaving. Talk about going out on a high note, but yes, it would be good to have her come back before the show's ultimate finale.
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That also would have taken Sara back to her own childhood - the domestic violence, the fear, and finally her mother stabbing her father to death and ending up in a mental hospital. That's probably what put her on the road to becoming a CSI in the first place. And Ronnie's belief in her own ability to make a difference reflected Sara's own feelings in some earlier seasons. In many ways the episode brought Sara full-circle - and she finally decided to get off the merry-go-round. She's been elbow deep in murder and mayhem for almost a decade and it - along with her own near-murder - pushed her past the breaking point. Even her relationship with Grissom wasn't enough to keep her in Vegas. As she said, she needed to deal with her ghosts, especially those of her father (and I would guess her mother, since Sara never rarely spoke about her and never in the present tense.)

I'm a little surprised this episode hasn't drawn more comment, not only because of its importance to the overall story, but because it was so good, and probably so different from what most of us thought it would be. I can now see how the writers considered their options - and what they knew the fans would be thinking - when Jorja Fox decided not to continue with the show and how much fun they had putting together the cliff-hanger - knowing they never intended to kill Sara, but that they could use the event as the catalyst for her eventual departure.

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I'm a little surprised this episode hasn't drawn more comment, not only because of its importance to the overall story, but because it was so good, and probably so different from what most of us thought it would be. I can now see how the writers considered their options - and what they knew the fans would be thinking - when Jorja Fox decided not to continue with the show and how much fun they had putting together the cliff-hanger - knowing they never intended to kill Sara, but that they could use the event as the catalyst for her eventual departure.

Well said, Joe. I'd say it's a safe bet the writers "got" most of us--just as you laid out.

Nicely done on the writer's part coupled with a strong performance by the cast included in the episode. And, I'm sure the departure of Sara Sidle will have a far-reaching impact on the remaining cast of characters as the show continues on.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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