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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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I didn't believe that the chief (captain? whoever that was) would take that kind of a risk to kill warrick in the open after the mob guy and the private detective were killed.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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TV.com does not show anymore episodes, so that is the end of Season 8?

Yes, that was the season finale.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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What got me was that they figured it out, and Worrick was set free, it seemed so incredible that they didn't think Worrick's life was in danger. Even Grissom dismissed the importance of finding the higher perpetrator.

Exactly. With Daniel Pritchard still on the loose--after apparently committing two murders and framing Warrick for one of them--how could they figure Warrick shouldn't be in fear of further retribution from the guy?!?! Kind of a big plot hole if you ask me.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Also, why is Warrick's car parked in a deserted back alley?

Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

For some reason, I had a sick feeling that Nick was going to sneak out the back door of the coffee shop and plug Warrick. No reason to think this except for some of the hype I read at tvguide.com. Glad I was wrong.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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This is interesting. I learn something new everyday.

But what's the problem with reading the info as a spoiler? It's only a little push of an e-button to continue reading.

I guess I just figured if something involved a major plot development that some people might not yet be clued into, it should be spoilerized in case they didn't want it ruined.

There are still people here on the HTF spoilering the closing plot devices to films such as The Mist and Soylent Green in case there is someone out there who may not have experienced it.

The problem with it is that it adds confusion. Unless the poster is real good with the spoiler intro like "I couldn't believe in last night's ep when...[spoiler]" or "I heard an interview with an actor where he gave away that the end of the season cliff hanger is...[spoiler]" the reader can't know if something is from last night or not. So the cautious people just avoid all of them. But every so often you can tell that there is a conversation going on in spoiler tags that is about what you've already seen ... so you start reading and WHAM ... you run into a real spoiler. The forum rule is pretty simple, only post what's been in an aired episode not including previews. If we stick to it, there shouldn't be any issues.

As for the endings of those movies ... were they in threads about the movies? That would be strange. Usually the only time you see something old spoilerized is when you are discussing it in a thread about something else and are comparing them. Like if you were comparing something Jack Bauer did in the Lost thread, you would want to spoilerize it for people who hadn't yet seen 24.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I really loved Jay Karnes (Dutch from The Shield) turning up as "IA Officer Wagenbach" (at least according to the IMDB.)

I'm just waiting for Det. John Munch to fly in from New York to work on a case.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Overall, it was a good episode but it was a real bummer to see Warrick go. While it will certainly create a very personal and interesting case that will probably run all next season, I will miss the Warrick character and Gary Dourdan.

It's a real stretch to see that killing Warrick will really resolve the problem for the undersheriff. A mole inside the police department is going to looked into by more than just Warrick (even if it wasn't personal to the other investigators). And now, he's got Grissom on his ass which is probably about the worst thing that could happen to you if you're trying to get away with a murder. It's going to be great to see Grissom bring him down.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Well, I didn't see that one coming. The way they were telegraphing that ending, I read it more like Warrick may have been plotting something else. And they were going to foreshadow some more trouble for him. But knowing he was leaving the show, but not knowing if his departure was decided before or after this was filmed, I kinda figured he was going to be doing something even more reckless.

As was already written above, Nick is still close by, so if they didn't know if he was leaving yet, they have a way to save his life.

It's too bad he's going out this way. As his character was constructed from the very beginning, he was always having some kind of problem that threatened his job, gambling, divorce and the recent drug usage.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Just my $.02 worth of opinion but I don't think we need to put in spoiler alerts for plot lines in an episode that has been aired. I DVR'ed Thursday's episode and purposely stayed away from this thread until I watched the episode. IMO, it is not up to the forum to hide major plotlines for an episode that has just aired. It's very simple - if you haven't watched the episode yet, don't go to a thread discussing the show until you have seen the episode.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I'm in! Sorry. I didn't realize I was handling the spoiler feature incorrectly.

Now I know. Thanks for setting me straight. I didn't realize there were forums rules (of thumb) about how to use 'em.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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It did answer Worricks question of saying that Pritchard was just a small man, that he was convinced there was a higher up person involved. What got me was that they figured it out, and Worrick was set free, it seemed so incredible that they didn't think Worrick's life was in danger. Even Grissom dismissed the importance of finding the higher perpetrator.

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Exactly. With Daniel Pritchard still on the loose--after apparently committing two murders and framing Warrick for one of them--how could they figure Warrick shouldn't be in fear of further retribution from the guy?!?! Kind of a big plot hole if you ask me.

Didn't Eckley very early on in the series accuse Grissom of being naive to politics and not playing the game? Seems Grissom is still like that, and perhaps he didn't see this coming. Though maybe the others on the night shift thought of it(?).

If Warrick is truely dead, Maybe we see Sara return for an episode or two for his funeral and to help bring down the bad guys.
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5/18/08 at 1:00pm
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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If Warrick is truly dead, Maybe we see Sara return for an episode or two for his funeral and to help bring down the bad guys.

I think More likely it would be Lauren Lee Smith, Jorja Fox's replacement.
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5/18/08 at 2:53pm
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Replacement CSI, not replacement Sara.

All that nonsense about casting a new character made no sense when they clearly established that Ronnie was the prime candidate, but hasn't been seen since Sara's last appearance where she put "Good Luck" on her CSI vest nametag, and put it in Ronnie's locker.

Makes no sense that they would try to find someone else, and let Ronnie just disappear since that episode without explanation.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

The thing is, the Ronnie character was pre-strike, and pre- shortened season. And also pre-"decision to let Gary go". A lot may have changed in the interim: The actress may no longer be interested/available, the producers may want to go in a different direction since they now have two characters/actors to replace, the long lay-off may have led them to rethink a number of elements of the series even without the problems with Gary/Warrick. I wouldn't make any assumptions based on where things were before the strike hit, when all anybody was thinking about was eventually replacing Jorja.

Also don't forget that William Peterson has only signed a one-year contract extension, and that for fewer than 24 episodes, so next year they may face the possibility of either wrapping up the series and going out on top or replacing Gil Grissom as the head of the night shift as well as replacing Sara and Warrick.

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5/18/08 at 6:21pm
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

According to that Ausiello guy at TV Guide, they are no longer looking for a Warrick replacement, whose character was to be named Ray Santoro.

Also, yes next season is rumored to be the final season, which honestly would be good because that would be 9 years of top ratings and top quality. What better time to go out? If it goes on, great. If not, that's great too.

Perhaps Jessica Lucas (Ronnie) is looking toward film now that Cloverfield struck gold and for those who haven't seen it yet: (spoiler added based on recent comments about how discussions can go off-topic and into spoiler territory for other films/shows mentioned briefly like this very moment actually )
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Lucas' character DID survive pretty much unharmed so there's always the possibility of her appearing in the eventual sequel.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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Also, yes next season is rumored to be the final season, which honestly would be good because that would be 9 years of top ratings and top quality. What better time to go out? If it goes on, great. If not, that's great too.
Same here. As much as I enjoy the show, I think it would be great if the characters solve Warrick's murder (which is easily the most personal case they've ever had) and then the show called it quits on their own rather than let the series run on until the original cast is gone or the audience tunes out.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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Just my $.02 worth of opinion but I don't think we need to put in spoiler alerts for plot lines in an episode that has been aired. I DVR'ed Thursday's episode and purposely stayed away from this thread until I watched the episode. IMO, it is not up to the forum to hide major plotlines for an episode that has just aired. It's very simple - if you haven't watched the episode yet, don't go to a thread discussing the show until you have seen the episode.

Yeah, but that doesn't work for those of us who do most if our forum surfing using the Top 30 Posts link. I accidentally found out the ending in the middle of watching the show tonight (despite my best efforts to skip over topics).
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

After he was racing his car in Hollywood and got popped for drugs I was waiting for something to happen to him.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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After he was racing his car in Hollywood and got popped for drugs I was waiting for something to happen to him.

Of course, that happened after this episode was shot, and after the decision not to renew his contract. The underlying drug problem may have been the cause, but the arrest certainly wasn't. (And for the record he does deny having a drug problem and that the drugs in his car were his. Otherwise known as the Lindsay Lohan defense. )

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I thought because of the strike this episode was shot not to long ago?

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Well, this opens the door for a variety of stories. Instead of the usual serial killer every 2 seasons, maybe it will be like this:


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If Worrick dies, and Billy Peterson is in his final year, they could make it his obsession to find the highest mole in the LVPD. Grissom may not want to play politics, I don't believe his character is naive. It would involve putting his life in danger with the LVPD (he's no stranger to that). Of course uncovering all this may make him no longer able to work as a CSI in LV or at all and may decide to retire after solving this case.
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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Of course, that happened after this episode was shot

Not necessarily:
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I just caught up with Robert David Hall - a wonderful veteran TV actor, lovely guy, and of course Dr. Al Robbins on "CSI" - by phone a few minutes ago. He's gonna be in town to present a major award at the U.N. next Tuesday. (More on that in a second.)

And of course, I turned the conversation immediately to Gary Dourdan, Hall's (obviously) troubled colleague who was arrested outside Palm Springs early yesterday in possession of various illegal substances.

In any event, the news: Hall tells me Dourdan was actually on set yesterday (long after his arrest, of course)

"I actually worked with him yesterday, and everybody was moving on. It's real hard to get work done when your're so close to the end of the season [show wraps this week then takes a week off before getting to the ninth season]."

I asked him what the talk of the set re: Dourdan is: "Almost to a person, I'd say ninety-nine percent of the cast and crew are very hopeful that Gary will be OK, and we love him deeply."

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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I thought because of the strike this episode was shot not to long ago?
The episode was probably shot around the end of April but the decision for them to part ways would have been reached before that (and before his arrest).
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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I thought it could have ended in the cafe and they could have just added the ending latter on. Guess not.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

Was anybody else expecting them to pan around the diner and just cut to black?

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I was listening for a Journey song in the background in the diner, maybe "The Party's Over".

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

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"I actually worked with him yesterday, and everybody was moving on. It's real hard to get work done when your're so close to the end of the season [show wraps this week then takes a week off before getting to the ninth season]."

If they were actually shooting the episode at the time Gary was arrested, it had been written well in advance and the decision about his future would already have been made. The rumors were out about that weeks before his arrest, probably partly inspired by the contents of the final script.

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Re: CSI: Las Vegas Season 8 thread

I mentioned before in a spoiler tag that the idea was to have him appear from time to time next season. Now, if that was a misdirection from the writers, then it means he's dead. We are assuming he is dead, but look at where he was shot, as well as the entire closing scene - he was shot twice, first in his neck and is still conscious by episode's end. It's not like Speedle in the CSI: Miami season 3 opener where we see him actually die.

Bringing him back could be true to an extent, if they only do it for the season premiere, have him hospitalized and then die. Then the writers' misdirection would only be the 'appear from time to time' part.

I don't think he's dead yet. The only thing missing was a "To Be Continued" at the end.
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