Smallville - Season 7 thread

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For a guy that old, I don't begrudge any of his hair stylings.

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Just picked up season 3 and things started off with a bang. Excellent first two episodes.

BTW, the Atlantis nightclub featured in season 3 of Smallville actually exists. It's in Vancouver (where the series is filmed) and the chicks that go there are as hot or hotter than what is depicted in these episodes. How do I know? I live in Vancouver and have been to that club a few times.

Believe me the babes that go there are gorgeous....

I am also watching season 7 on TV. I'l watch a couple more episodes and then stop. I plan on buying the dvd set, so I don't want to know everything that happens.

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The problem is, some stuff from seasons you haven't seen has already been spoiled for you.

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I loved this second episode.

I liked the scenes between Clark and Kara.

Is the anything in the comics or something that's been done about Supergirl as an ulterior motive or a reason she can't be trusted?

Was she brought to earth to kill baby Kal-el?

or is Jor-el just lying to Clark.

I would LOVE to see Kara on Red-K

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No and no. The show has twisted the mythology quite a bit but is still fun to watch.

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I have noticed, especially in first couple of seasons, some subtle religious aspects to the show. Whether intentional or not they add another layer and aspect to the show.

Things to consider:

1) In the first season Kent is suspended on a cross

2) The juxtaposition of Kent and Lex with angel statutes.

3) The meaning of Kent's name "Kal-el"

4) The meaning of "Jor-el".

5) The meaning of "Lex Luthor's" name.

To name just a few.

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how about lex being saved by an apparent "angel" this season.

btw, what do those names mean anyhow?

glad i'm not the only one who thinks kara's face is odd looking.

she has a bit of an over bite combined with an underbite and an odd hollow look to her eyes and cheekbones.
also no facial expression.

i dont like her.

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I'm just wrapping up season 3. I haven't watched Season 7 any, but will be caught up soon..

Here's what I know so far:

(a) whoever plays Lex is an infinitely better actor then the kid playing Clark.
(b) I'm absolutely rooting for Lex. At this point just so far, find him more compelling, interesting and fun.
(c) Whoever plays Clark is really wooden at times. And the dialog for Clark makes him come off like a town idiot at times.. super powers.. and the mental acuity of a small hamster.

Re: Smallville - Season 7 premiere 9/27/07

Pawned!


gif courtesy of a poster a the superherohype boards.

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That was awesome.

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Nice.

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I was going to post the exact same thing. Her massive cheekbones give her a strange, caricature-like appearance from the front, and her overbite/underbite make her look more of a yokel than a supergirl. I also don't like her.

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Personally, I thought she handled the action scenes well, and physically, she has the appearance of the modern-era Supergirl. As far as her acting ability goes, I agree, she wasn't particularly good, especially in her one-on-ones with Clark. But then again, some of the dialog they stuck her with was simply dreadful!

I was not all that excited when I first read about the prospect of Supergirl coming to Smallville, but now that I see it playing out, I have to admit it opens the door to lots of potentially interesting story arcs.

The Lex character, in particular, should reap the benefit of her arrival, since now he has a new Kryptonian to be obsessed with. The striking similarity between his first encounter with Kara and the way Clark rescues him back in season one, can't be ignored and is sure to be milked in future storylines.

Kara's arrival also opens up the possibility for a new twist in the Clark/Chloe relationship. Will Kara usurp Chloe as Clark's best friend? They seem to be setting the stage for that, at least in the short term.

Also, for the first time ever, Clark now has a Kryptonian blood relative living in Smallville. This is sure to impact on some of his decision-making in much the same way it affects the way that Chloe and Lois interact.

On the whole, I really like what I have seen so far in season seven!

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Something about her nose makes her face look like a skull.

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God, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks she's a bit funny lookin'.

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I wouldn't have rocked the boat if everyone else was saying she was all hot.

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It seems this issue has been visited many times in the past.

From what I have been able to find out here are some interpretations of the meanings for some of the names:

1) Kal-El - Because Siegel and Shuster (Superman's creators) were both Jewish, some religious commentators and pop-culture scholars such as Rabbi Simcha Weinstein and British novelist Howard Jacobson suggest that Superman's creation was partly influenced by Moses, and other Jewish elements. Superman's Kryptonian name, "Kal-El," resembles the Hebrew words קל-אל, which means "vessel of God". The suffix "el", meaning "of God" is also found in the name of angels (e.g. Gabriel, Ariel), who are flying humanoid agents of good with superhuman powers.

2) Jor-El - J is actually pronounced Y (the letter Yod) in Hebrew. Possible translations are: Yare'-el - fear of God, Yarah-El - God teaches, taught of God, Yeru-El - God is a foundation, Yeri-El - founded of God; God will see.

3) Lex Luthor - A) Lex - Latin for law ('Lex' is also short for Alexander. Alexander is Greek for leader of men, alex (leader) ander (men).Luthor (Luther) - Teutonic- famous warrior/ famous in war.


B) Another interpretation: Lex Luthor is a derivative of "ex Lucifer" or satan. Clark calls Lex the devil and a snake in several episodes of Smallville.


It could be argued that the struggle between Clark and Lex is a struggle between good and evil, and between God and the devil.


More information on the history of the Superman legend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jor-El

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Wow! Now that is interesting stuff!

And I think Kara looks fine, she's in this months issue of Stuff and she looks pretty hot IMO. She does have very distinct cheekbones but they're not at all objectionable to me.

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There seems to be much more to this series than meets the eye.

Almost everything has meaning.

Krypton for example is most likely from its Greek root (κρυπτόν) which means "hidden thing" or "hidden one".

More on Lex Luthor:

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/LexLuthor.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Luthor


Krypton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton_(comics)

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Almost 1/2 way through Season 4. So far, Lex is imminently likable and hell, he does come off as far more the hero then Clark. Clark in this show comes off as dishonest, pathological, forceful, craven, kind of creepy and really wooden.

*laugh* if it stays this way, gven another season or so, I'll be pretty much onboard wiith the idea that if Humanity is going to survive, Clark has to go..

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Michael Rosenbaum as Lex is a very interesting, complex character.

Spike in Buffy was also a very interesting character.

Does this mean that being bad is more interesting than being good?

I wonder why.

Or is the journey in exploring why someone goes from being good to bad the interesting part?

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While Chris' view of Clark might not be the best I whole heartedly agree that Lex, as played by Rosenbaum, is the best Lex ever filmed, even better than Gene Hackman IMO. Kevin Spacey did some in making a big screen Lex more hard core (the Kryptonite shard in the back scene always gets to me it's so cold) but Rosenbaum's is far and away the most layered, subtle and sympathetic of all the Lex's that have come before him.

Chris, I really don't think this is a spoiler given what this show is about but I wouldn't get my heart set on Clark going anywhere lol. No Clark = no Superman afterall.

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I don't know, at this point, I haven't seen Lex do anything I could really qualify as bad.. but I've seen him do a lot of absolute good that didn't require super power. (OK, he did off/abandon his faked-up wife who tried to kill him, but I'm a pretty easy forgive on turn about)... I mean, outside of loaning damn near everyone string free money, constant forgiveness of other characters, and putting his efforts behind keeping his friends out of continuous trouble with the law, I just haven't seen him do anything I'd qualify as dasterdly.

Clark, on the other hand, so far has done numerous thiings that I can't think of how to describe but evil.. he knew that Red Kryptonite made him creepy, but he ends season 3 deciding that he's better off becoming evil and "feeling good" rather then face reality.. so who knows how many people were hurt in that.. including quite a few killed in police standoffs. Add to that his continual cover up, not just of his powers, but giving Lex bad information to corrupt the legitimate outcome, etc. etc.

Yeah, I see Lionel as evil, but at this point (8 eps into season 4) Clark strikes me as infinitely more evil and dangerous then Lex.. by big leaps.

Spike was an interesting character as one who redeemed himself, but he always had that creepy quality, and you always knew that on a moral scale, Buffy was the force of good. Clark, thus far, is not coming off as a force of real good.. just a force of nature. Yes, he rescued Lana, did this and that with his super powers.. but oddly, it's mostly mess cleanup.. he creates a situation wherein people will get hurt and then has to fix it.

I don't know, maybe it's partly because the writing and acting for Michael Rosenbaum is so much more interesting to watch.. but Clark's dialog and acting makes him seem far creepier (IMHO). I'm reminded of Lex telling him near the end of S3 that "what if the other guy is the good guy" And at this point, I agree with that. Then again, who knows, the rest of the season may start to see Lex turn truly evil or something.


Yeah, I get that.. but here I find this to be the best Lex written in any of the stories of Superman, and the Clark written into the series seems very cardboard and not nearly as representative of the force of good. So you have a neutral and at times very strongly loyal Lex who as often as not is the moving force of good at his own peril versus a kind of sulking, fairly creepy Clark. While it makes me appreciate Lex's character a great deal, it makes Clark's character look far less as the protagonist.

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Maybe we should dig up the season 4 thread for this discussion. It would hard to argue, for instance, who's the good guy and who's the bad guy after what transpires in the subsequent three seasons.

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*laugh* good point, I will do that I should just wait for the series to end and for the "everlasting" thread So, I'll stay out until I'm all caught up.

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chris do you know Superman as a comic character, also lex luthor?

not to spoil anything but lex is far from a hero inspite of how he seems on the show to you, he is the one who is deceitful, uses everyone for his own gain. etc.

i'm not sure what you're seeing on this show.

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Yeah, I read the comic book series, have seen all the movies. But I'm treating the series like it's own entity, approaching it as though I don't know any of those things. Just saying, so far.. I haven't seen anything to build any belief in that.. but lots to make you believe things that were never aired out in any of the comics, save for the splinter series after "Superman is Dead" event.. It's a different approach, just not sure how I feel about it Though I do love the way Lex is written. Meanwhile Clark comes off like Damien.

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ok i get ya.

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I never saw the things you're seeing in Clark, but Lex was definitely trying to be a good person early on. They really set it up better than Anakin Skywalker, because you really don't want to see this guy go bad.

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Let's be fair, the Smallville version of Lex has been drawn through over 120+ hours of characterization, it's tough to make apt comparisons with the movie counterparts of the "same" character with less than 12 hours of cinematic treatment of Lex.

The biggest conceit about Smallville Lex is that although he wasn't "evil" from the get-go in his early to mid-20's (when we are introduced to him from season 1), he's had his share of crappy neglect in his family life from a domineering father, but he's always had this undercurrent of using his resources for less-than-legal means (33.1?), and isn't above using his resources to exact influence on lesser assets and ostacles. Lex has a thirst for power and information (but without a highly developed moral center to inhibit his impulses and thirst because Lionel raised Lex to be tough and ruthless in his pursuits).

The nice flip that "Smallville" did (to the Lex/Clark dynamic) was to develop Lex and Clark's friendship in the beginning, and then as their goals and ideals drifted apart (plus their romantic interludes with Lana), their antagonism levels escalated through the seasons. Eventually Lex and Clark/Superman will become sworn enemies, and having that level of animosity coming out of a former friendship lends a little more of the bittersweet "what could have been" flavor to their dynamic.