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Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

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Was also nice to see Moon Bloodgood (love that name) again. Really liked her in Daybreak. She reminds me of a young Tia Carrere.

Yeah, she does look a bit like Tia. Never did catch Daybreak, but I've never forgotten a guest shot Moon did on CSI as a stripper. Her flirting with Girssom was classic - the moreso since she was a last-minute replacement for another actress who was cast but show cancelled for some reason. On the DVD commentary the producers went out of their way to mention what a terrific job Moon did stepping into the role on short notice. I'm really looking forward to this show - for many reasons.

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Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

I enjoyed the pilot episode. There are a lot of mysteries which I hope we will get to explore in the weeks ahead. I thought they did a great job in casting Reed Diamond (Kellerman in Homicide) as his brother. They really acted and looked like they could be brothers.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Interesting moment with the metal detector wand. If there is a metal implant on his body, it looks like his condition might be a technological rather than metaphysical phenomena.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

I don't like the actress who plays Journeyman's wife, she bugs me.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Even better episode than the first in my opinion, I hope this show stays on for the whole season.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

I think I'm going to have to move this show down from "live" viewing priority to something to catch via time-shifting because I'm just not all that impressed by the "Touched by a time-traveling Angel" angle of this show. I'm not even all that interested as to why his former fiancee keeps showing up in his visits to the past.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

It felt stronger this time. Perhaps it's a slow burn, needing time to really establish the concept. I finished this episode thinking there could be a rich story to develop.

I really like attention to consequences. Ending with them on a no fly list a good twist.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

I thought it was spot-on. As good as the pilot episode. I like the way that his actual missions are pretty easy, but the entire process is so difficult. I really get a kick out of him being so close in the orbit of his past self, as it not only provides some good humor moments (avoiding himself), but also gives him the opportunity to learn more about himself, incidentally (eavesdropping on his own past). It is a rich show, with many levels. Very enjoyable actor, too.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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I think I'm going to have to move this show down from "live" viewing priority to something to catch via time-shifting because I'm just not all that impressed by the "Touched by a time-traveling Angel" angle of this show. I'm not even all that interested as to why his former fiancee keeps showing up in his visits to the past.
Funny, when I'm no longer that interested in a show, it gets demoted to "live" viewing. Certainly wouldn't want to watch anything I actually enjoy live with commercials.

In any event, the second episode kept me interested. So with him always running into Livia, who is supposedly also a "time traveler", and we know she is dead in the current time, is it safe to say Dan is actually dead at some point in the future that we haven't seen yet? Could this supposed "current" life that he's living right now actually be the past as well?
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Actually, I'm not really interested in his journeys to the past to do right but I'm more interested in his relationship with his wife and how they cope with it.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Time Travel Lessons: Planning for the Future (Past)

- Have a stash of old cash
- Don't yard-sale old cell phone chargers
- Open floor plans are risky; buy your home with your hidden future-self in mind
- Road-Trip: get used to it
- Flexible work hours are a must
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

They established that Livia is alive. She left the plane she was on before it left but hasn't explained why she did so or why she disappeared.

I'm not liking the contrived 2nd or 3rd hand influences he has in his time travel. He essentially helped a girl be born, meet her dad, meet him again at the hospital just to meet someone at said hospital she could help. I liked that in QL Sam had much more direct contact and influence with the intended target. Thats also 2 episodes in a row he has been Angel Dad. Is that going to be the theme for every show?
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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So with him always running into Livia, who is supposedly also a "time traveler", and we know she is dead in the current time
Actually, they specifically mentioned this week (or last) that she was in one of those plane crashes sans corpse.

The idea of tracking someone's life is interesting, but he seems to have figured that out pretty quickly based upon one trip; I think it's too early to assume that it's what he'll always be doing.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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Time Travel Lessons: Planning for the Future (Past)

- Have a stash of old cash
- Don't yard-sale old cell phone chargers
- Open floor plans are risky; buy your home with your hidden future-self in mind
- Road-Trip: get used to it
- Flexible work hours are a must
We've certainly learned that yesterday. I'm enjoying the show I think down the road it's not just the time travel but the relationship between our traveler and his wife, his ex girlfriend and the brother. I have a theory:
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I think the brother and the ex girlfriend Journey woman had an affair.

Just me though, I have to admit, the traveling does need a little more substance, convincing the daughter to get tested for a bone marrow transplant for her father then matching and donating to a pilot who flies mission in Honduras for food or something was a bit lame.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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Actually, they specifically mentioned this week (or last) that she was in one of those plane crashes sans corpse.
Ah...I must have missed that.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

I enjoyed the 2nd episode a bit more, as I am also a fan of time travel entertainment, having enjoyed QL and the Back to the Future trilogy.

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- Have a stash of old cash

Used to wonder about that when watching time travel movies. I would think people in the 1980's would find it odd to receive a coin from 2003. Or one of those state quarters that have been coming out in the last 10 years.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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Thats also 2 episodes in a row he has been Angel Dad. Is that going to be the theme for every show?

My guess is Yes.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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Interesting moment with the metal detector wand. If there is a metal implant on his body, it looks like his condition might be a technological rather than metaphysical phenomena.

How much metal can you have in your body and not have the MRI machine affect you?

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

This show is hanging by a thread as far as keeping my interest. I experienced the Loma Prieta quake of '89 so I definitely want to check out next week's.

Pros:

* Explores the consequences of his trips, such as ending up on the do not fly list and being chased for having 'counterfeit' (future) cash.
* I like that he really pushed his ex/traveller on the 1995 plane about her being there. Genuine frustration at not knowing where she lives now, why she's there, etc. I like that the writers didn't just have him accepting her being there.

Cons:

* The 'guardian angel' aspect is overplayed and cliched.
* The show keeps playing a 'you just THINK it's random' angle in regards to his mission/purpose, but it really plays out as random. Too random. There's nothing particular dramatic cohesive about it.
* The people in his life need to be more than exposition depositories and plot points. They need to be fleshed out more, especially in the first few episodes. Characters and their relationships are what keep viewers hooked on a show, and Journeyman is more concerned with plot.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Theres' something more going on with this "square" relationship between Dan, Livia, Katie, and Jack that the series creators are letting on.

What I found interesting about last night's episode was the trip back to '95 when Dan was being chased down by the beat cop. Was that beat cop actually Jack before he became a detective?


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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Hey Joseph, I experienced the '89 quake too! I'll be watching to see how they recreate that. It did look fake in the trailers though.

I missed the second half of the Pilot last week. I gathered from last night's episode, he found Livia alive in the past and this week reveals that she travels through time too and didn't die.

Funny to see him jump from an early cellphone to iPhone.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

Loved last night's ep just as much as the pilot, it doesn't bother me that we don't yet know the cause of Dan's trips because it's still early and I don't expect the show to show me all of it's cards yet.

I'm loving Kevin McKidd in this role, he has a very sympathetic face and demeanor and one can't help but feel his frustration that this phenominon could potentially do serious damage to his relationship with his family.

I liked the little touch last night with him mistakenly giving a modern 20 dollar bill to the cabbie, it demonstrates that he's not quite come to grips with these trips yet and that he just didn't think. I also like how his ex-girlfriend keeps popping up, she seems to know more than she's telling and the mystery intrigues me, she reminds me of the time traveling female character in the book Replay, in that book she was the main traverler's only companion as it was happening to both of them.

So far I would best describe the show as Time Whisperer because it's just as endearing to me as Ghost Whisperer is.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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What I found interesting about last night's episode was the trip back to '95 when Dan was being chased down by the beat cop. Was that beat cop actually Jack before he became a detective?
Yes.

Quantum Leap was overt: Jack jumped into the body of someone who needed savin'. JourneyMan is trying to be more circumspect, less "simplistic": it's touch a person's life in oblique, seemingly disconnected ways, and the end result is more subtle than expected.

Quantum Leap would have been about helping the woman have the baby, or getting the daughter to be the donor for her no-good, mother-leaving father. JourneyMan is about getting the daughter born, and through critical moments in her life so, ultimately, she can save someone not even in the storyline.

It's more "modern". It's not "obvious". It's a different, and uncommon, approach to story-telling. But as Joseph said (well), there's no particular dramatic cohesion to it. I don't know if it's going to work and hold its audience.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

The one thing that bugs me about it is that he hasn't asked the ex what seems to me to be an obvious question with all the issues he's now having in the current time- "Is there any way to control when I leave?"

Even if he asked that and she said no, I'd be much more satisfied by it.
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The one thing that bugs me about it is that he hasn't asked the ex what seems to me to be an obvious question with all the issues he's now having in the current time- "Is there any way to control when I leave?"

Even if he asked that and she said no, I'd be much more satisfied by it.

I think the obvious answer right now is no he can't, if he could control when he left than he would never leave. He get's a warning (headache) and then ZIP, off he goes.
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"Is there any way to control when I leave?"
Even if he asked that and she said no, I'd be much more satisfied by it.

I'm sure the answer to that question would be something like "I don't know," or "It's complicated" followed by some huge distracting boom/explosion/plot point that interrupts further discussion. Ahh, the mind of a tv writer.

Just to clarify my earlier statements criticizing the show: I really want it to succeed. It has a kind of innocence about it; it's not trying to be post-post modern or overly stylized or edgy, it's just trying to do something cool and interesting, and I hope it succeeds.
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I'm sure the answer to that question would be something like "I don't know," or "It's complicated" followed by some huge distracting boom/explosion/plot point that interrupts further discussion. Ahh, the mind of a tv writer.

Just to clarify my earlier statements criticizing the show: I really want it to succeed. It has a kind of innocence about it; it's not trying to be post-post modern or overly stylized or edgy, it's just trying to do something cool and interesting, and I hope it succeeds.


I agree with you. I like the show. One of the better ones of the new season. Not sure why everyone is criticizing the show but I am sure if it gets cancelled we'll have more reality shows to litter the air waves.
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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

The girl playing Tanna had a nice chin wobble going.

The show also reminds me of Cold Case.

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Re: Journeyman - season 1 thread

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The one thing that bugs me about it is that he hasn't asked the ex what seems to me to be an obvious question with all the issues he's now having in the current time- "Is there any way to control when I leave?"

Even if he asked that and she said no, I'd be much more satisfied by it.
He's asked her related questions of where she's been, what she's following him, etc. She dodges those questions. It's apparent that asking "How do I control time travel" would be met with an equally opaque answer.
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I think the obvious answer right now is no he can't, if he could control when he left than he would never leave. He get's a warning (headache) and then ZIP, off he goes.

Right now he can't, but even just asking her if she knows how, since she obviously is more experienced at the time travelling would make it work just a slight bit better for me. Even if the answer she would say is "no, its impossible to control", it would help, but I'll deal.
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