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The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
9/8/07 at 7:44am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Whaaaat? That can't be right!
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9/9/07 at 1:20pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
To be fair, the accompanying photo book looks like it'd cost a good $30-40 on it's own:
Plus you have the "typical" extras that would make up a package like this, which usually tack an extra $25 onto the price tag: poster, lobby cards and in this case... a reproduction of of the original annotated script.
~ $90 US seems reasonable, if just for the inclusion of the hardcover book.
Btw, if that white thing in the photo with the black lettering is the poster... it kinda sucks.
Also, can anyone confirm if the 30min. "making-of" included here will be the same as the MPI (or was it MVD) 22min. release of "behind the scenes" 8mm film footage with the Beatles?
9/9/07 at 3:26pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Based on the press release, it sounds as if the "making of" will feature Richard Lester and have "exclusive" footage from the set, so I would think it's something newly created.As for the poster in the box, it appears to be a folded version of this:
http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_prod...vie%5Fid=13311
Probably will unfold to about 24x36 I would guess.
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9/9/07 at 3:30pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by MarcoBiscotti
To be fair, the accompanying photo book looks like it'd cost a good $30-40 on it's own:
~ $90 US seems reasonable, if just for the inclusion of the hardcover book. Btw, if that white thing in the photo with the black lettering is the poster... it kinda sucks. Also, can anyone confirm if the 30min. "making-of" included here will be the same as the MPI (or was it MVD) 22min. release of "behind the scenes" 8mm film footage with the Beatles? |
The poster looks like it's still folded in the photo, so the black lettering is probably just the credits at the top or bottom of it.
(EDIT- I see Derek posted just before I did.
)I was going to sell my MPI VHS copy, but I think I'll make sure the same "8 minutes of rare bonus footage" is carried over onto the DVD before I get rid of it.
9/9/07 at 3:57pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Too bad they didn't go with the "A" or "B" style, or even the German masterprints that are graphically more interesting.A 60 page full colour hardcover book filled with production photographs is quite impressive imo and easily justifies a $30-40 price tag. I'm sure you'd see it in bookstores for at least that price, nevermind it's exclusivity. A normal two-disc "limited edition" gift set in WHV fashion with lobby cards and such generally run around the $30 US mark. Tack on the extra cost of the book and the reproduction script and your pretty close to what I'd consider a reasonable cost, give or take $10. I'm not saying it's a fantastic deal or anything, but it's not an outlandish price tag either considering all that's been divulged in the press release. Remember how much the E.T. gift set sold for upon release?
As for the "making-of" -- it's nice to have a new docu. with Lester involved and everything, but if I've learned anything from past Beatles movie releases (AHDN) it's that less "extras" and more poignant features involving the foursome themselves, without the insight of every member of the production crew, gaffers, caterers, hair stylists, etc. would be much better served! The second disc of the AHDN set was almost utterly useless to me. A lot of dickering about how nice it was to interact with the boys on the set from people nobody cares about.
It's a shame that the previously issued "making-of" won't be included and I'm not quite sure why as that's as great a compliment to the film as can be offered. If the four 8mm reels of the Beatles behind-the-scenes are out there, than why not include them on this set?? It would seem like an easy and obvious way to tack on useful accompaniment to the film itself. I hope I won't have to track down the old out-of-print MPI copy of that release now. I was sure it'd be cleaned up and included with this film's reissue eventually.... :/
9/9/07 at 6:44pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Oh, I'll probably end up buying the $95 set anyway.
9/11/07 at 6:08am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Finding out all sorts of tidbits over at the Steve Hoffman forums...Evidently after Paul Rutan restored 'Help!,' a clean interpositive was found, and color seps were made for protection before Walter Shenson died. They struck a new print hard-matted for 1.66 that screened at Telluride recently (in 5.1)!
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10/3/07 at 5:21am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I read that this was delayed a week, to Nov. 6. Any confirmation?Saw an item on it at http://www.musictap.net
Not a big deal in the scheme of things.
10/11/07 at 9:20pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I just went to check this again on Amazon, and the standard $20 edition now is listed as "no longer available". So......it's the deluxe $95 edition or nothing, now?
10/12/07 at 2:49am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by MielR
I just went to check this again on Amazon, and the standard $20 edition now is listed as "no longer available". So......it's the deluxe $95 edition or nothing, now?
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Other sites are still listing it as available.
Actually, the "deluxe or nothing" would be the excuse I need to splurge.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
10/12/07 at 12:50pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
The Amazon listing is there for the $20 version:http://www.amazon.com/Help-John-Lenn...2218580&sr=1-3
Could be that it was changed when the date of release changed (to Nov. 6).
10/17/07 at 3:23am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Actually, the "deluxe or nothing" would be the excuse I need to splurge.[/quote]If you are a Barnes and Noble member and have a MasterCard there is a 50 % coupon code P7N6J9K.
Takes alot of the sting out of the deluxe price.
11/3/07 at 3:50pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
The back cover (on DVD Empire) confirms that it's 16x9 and the audio is PCM stereo and DTS 5.1!Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
11/3/07 at 9:08pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I watched this latest release on a Toshiba 42" 1080 display - through a Sony NS75H player and there were narrow vertical borders on either side of the image so perhaps it is 1:66? As far as the actual image is concerned the colors are much richer with better detail and I thought the 5.1 mix was pretty good overall. I do have the original MPI dvd which I will keep - just for the sound track.I will have to watch the extras soon.
11/4/07 at 9:08am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Just a reminder that Circuit City has the "standard" edition on sale for $15.99 and Best Buy has it for $17.99. I would guess that BB will be adjusting its price to match CC.Lawn Ranger Motto: You're only young once, but you can be always be immature.
11/4/07 at 11:45pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Where are the professional reviews on this highly anticipated re-release?"HELP", please!
Movies are: "The Greatest Artform".
HD should be for EVERYONE!
11/5/07 at 8:14pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I don't know, but I think I've decided against the deluxe version- it's just too overpriced for what you get. Usually when it's a movie/group that I really love, I'll get the upgraded version of the dvd/cd, but this just smacks of gouging to me.
11/6/07 at 2:07pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I just got this and went to play disc 2 ( and it's labeled disc 2 ) it's just disc 1!!!!!!!!..............and I got the deluxe version with all extras!! (posters, books etc.)
11/6/07 at 3:34pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Here's a few comparisons between the 4x3 MPI DVD (1997) and the new 16x9 Apple/EMI/Capitol DVD (2007):
The end credits used to be plagued with dirt and scratches, but it's now 100% pristine.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
11/7/07 at 8:01am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by mike--
I just got this and went to play disc 2 ( and it's labeled disc 2 ) it's just disc 1!!!!!!!!..............and I got the deluxe version with all extras!! (posters, books etc.)
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11/7/07 at 8:48am
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by Ed St. Clair
Where are the professional reviews on this highly anticipated re-release?
"HELP", please! |
DVD Verdict has a review up now: Link
11/7/07 at 12:18pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Deluxe Edition = idiotic packaging (as is usually the case).I just picked it up and I'm very glad I bought it at a local retailer instead of ordering online (though I paid full price which came to around CAN $125 w/ tax)!
The disc hubs are nothing more than two cheap round pieces of foam that are glued (ineffectively) onto the front of the book.
Naturally both discs (and foam hubs) were floating inside the package when I opened it up, but luckily were still in fine shape. I simply pressed the foam hubs back into place firmly and placed the discs onto them. Though they don't hold very securely and are an absolutely stupid and cheap way to package. Especially for such a damn expensive box set!
Otherwise everything else looks wonderful!
My only other minor complain would be that outer wrapping with the sticker on it. It would've been nice if it were simply a slip that was enclosed on both sides so that you don't have to unwrap/unstick each time you want to open up the package... Of course many people will just toss that out but I think it looks real nice (and let's be honest... that's why most people are paying the exorbitant ammount for this set) and is a convenient way to hold everything in place within the box.
But without having actually watched anything yet, I'm very happy with what I've got and feel like the price is justified based on what was included. I'm sure the book and script add an extra $40/45 along with the deluxe packaging and box itself plus the lobby cards and poster... it's quite a beautiful package.
11/7/07 at 12:40pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
I have the regular 2-disc set and I am not thrilled about the packaging in it, either. I have never liked the cases where the discs are stacked on top of each other.I am also wondering why this even needed to be a 2-disc set. The first disc contains the movie that is 90 + minutes, and the second disc contents are less than 60 minutes.
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11/7/07 at 12:44pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Well at least the discs in deluxe set aren't stacked.The hubs just fall off...
11/7/07 at 12:53pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by Marty M
I have the regular 2-disc set and I am not thrilled about the packaging in it, either. I have never liked the cases where the discs are stacked on top of each other.
I am also wondering why this even needed to be a 2-disc set. The first disc contains the movie that is 90 + minutes, and the second disc contents are less than 60 minutes. |
The film is 96 minutes, but it has PCM stereo and DTS 5.1 soundtracks, so that's probably why.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
11/7/07 at 1:33pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
Does anyone else think that it's weird that the only 5.1 option is DTS? There is no Dolby Digital. I'm not complaining...the DTS mix is incredibly dynamic, but I think this is one of the only DVDs I have with DTS being the only 5.1 option.
11/7/07 at 3:14pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by Patrick McCart
Here's a few comparisons between the 4x3 MPI DVD (1997) and the new 16x9 Apple/EMI/Capitol DVD (2007):
The end credits used to be plagued with dirt and scratches, but it's now 100% pristine. |
The original DVD will retain its value (I thought it would go down after this release. Butt, just like the original "AHDN"; it has something 'extra' to offer Beatle fans).
How's the sound compare?
I LUV that this disc is LPCM!!!
Movies are: "The Greatest Artform".
HD should be for EVERYONE!
11/7/07 at 3:18pm
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by David Allum
DVD Verdict has a review up now: Link
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That review (1st I could find, as well) says this disc maintains the original aspect ratio.
Movies are: "The Greatest Artform".
HD should be for EVERYONE!
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Re: The Beatles' Help: 2007 2-Disc Re-Issue (Oct. 30)
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Originally Posted by Bradley Newton
Does anyone else think that it's weird that the only 5.1 option is DTS? There is no Dolby Digital. I'm not complaining...the DTS mix is incredibly dynamic, but I think this is one of the only DVDs I have with DTS being the only 5.1 option.
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