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Originally Posted by EricW
fan noise.
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Rewind - DVDcompare/Site Administrator
*US PS3 (1080p) - Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI) - Nintendo Wii (Euro) - Sony PSP-2000 - Nintendo DSi
*HD DVD Toshiba XE1 (1080p) - Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000 (1080p) - Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
Steve S.
I prefer not to push the subwoofers until they\'re properly run in.
| I read this week's bargain thread and it stuck me why these new HDM formats haven't taken off better than they have so far. The software prices are just too expensive. You have BB and CC offering deals on various titles, but they're still priced 29.99 or 24.99 which isn't going to cut it in today's mass market. |
| Is it because of production and R&D costs, or is it because the studios don't want to undercut the DVD cash cow? I wonder... |
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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
More than likely the answer is: STudios expect the consumer to pay for a premium product which HD and BR are.
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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
I've got 2 words for you.....Fry's Electronics. Crappy service, great prices.
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| I have always been under the impression that one studios-perceived benefit of these new formats was to get the genie back in the bottle to some degree in terms of per-unit pricing. |
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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
With less than 40 stores nationwide that's not going to cut it for many of us.
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
Even at this early stage of the HD game, I find myself waiting and trying to buy titles used on Amazon to cut down on the costs. $40 list for Fox discs is pretty outrageous, though many titles can be had for under $20 if you purchase used (not going to work for mass-acceptance, naturally, but works for me for the moment).
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Originally Posted by Jay Gregory
I have always been under the impression that one studios-perceived benefit of these new formats was to get the genie back in the bottle to some degree in terms of per-unit pricing.
Retailers certainly aren't going to sell HDM as loss leaders because the current market is so small. And I'm sure that studios see HDM as similar to 2 disk special editions that are released alongside single disk SD DVD new releases; the "better" version will be sold to the enthusiast who is more likely to pay a premium. (And since the enthusiast market is smaller, there is little incentive to discount a title to loss leader pricing.) |
\"My opinion is that (a) anyone who actually works in a video store and does not understand letterboxing has given up on life, and (b) any customer who prefers to have the sides of a movie hacked off should not be licensed to operate a video player.\"-- Roger Ebert
| Interesting you say this. Have you noticed the price of SD DVDs creeping up? I've been seeing day and date SD DVDS around $24 even $27. |
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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich
For years the retailers were selling them at a loss on opening week to get you in the store. I think they are more reluctant to do that. I don't think the MSRP has changed.
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| We were waiting for a unit of the first Onkyo HD DVD player, the DV-HD805, for review on the pages of AV Magazine. After a conversation with Tecnofuturo, the Brescia-based Italian distributor of the Japanese manufacturer, we decided in mutual agreement that it was not worth the trouble. The reasons are quickly explained: the DV-HD805 is no other than a rebranded Toshiba HD-XE1 HD DVD player, which is already compatible with streaming of all lossless multichannel HD codecs via HDMI 1.3, and there are only few units of it available. In view of the new marketing policy being applied by Toshiba, consisting of sinking the price of its own players, Onkyo has difficulty in positioning its own player (the Europe list price is 899 euros) and has therefore decided to stop production. The scarce units produced have been redistributed in varios markets. It has been known that barely 11 units arrived in Italy, and no others will come. Germany has been more fortunate, with 20 units, and Spain will receive none. As to why it was decided not to review such a product, apart from its being a clone, it won't be effectively be available on the market (the 11 Italian units are already sold). We thank Tecnofuturo for such a quick communication and we apologize to the enthusiasts. Onkyo is already working actively on a new player and according to tidbits it could be this time a Blu-ray player or a hybrid player. We'll have other news and more confirmation during the upcoming CES at Las Vegas. |
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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Your probably right about the MSRP, but the actual sale price seems to have gone up.
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"How wonderful it will be to have a leader unburdened by the twin horrors of knowledge and experience." -- Mr. Wick
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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
..the MSRP has not changed in several years, however, the 40% or more discount pricing during the first week has basically stopped for new releases. The discount price is more in the 30% off range.
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