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Paul Seydor's PAT GARRETT AND BILLY THE KID

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9/26/09 at 1:10pm
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Well, they can right the wrong with Garrett come a BD release but somehow I don't think they will. I listened to the commentary track hoping against hope that David Weddle would stomp all over Seydor's cut, but no. Naive of me.

C'mon Warner, do the right thing and I promise to pony up all over again. Pretty please. With sugar on.
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9/28/09 at 3:59pm
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It was interesting that for recent HD tv showings it's actually been the original theatrical version, so the 2005 hasn't totally become the main one out there. So much of the 2005 cut is just the theatrical I don't know why they didn't just make that the 2nd disc (maybe with the option to play it with the bookends intact) and put more effort into presenting the longer cut.
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9/29/09 at 3:47am
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Originally Posted by Alex cosmo View Post

It was interesting that for recent HD tv showings it's actually been the original theatrical version, so the 2005 hasn't totally become the main one out there. So much of the 2005 cut is just the theatrical I don't know why they didn't just make that the 2nd disc (maybe with the option to play it with the bookends intact) and put more effort into presenting the longer cut.

Alex, did you see the original 1973 theatrical version on HDTV?
I'm curious where  and when it was aired.
That means it was widescreen anamorphic, yes?
Thus far, the original 1973 theatrical version has only been aired in full-screen pan & scan, and the of course the vhs is over 20 years out of print.
If HD broadcasts of the original 1973 theatrical version are in widescreen, I need to have a look.


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9/29/09 at 3:41pm
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It was on HDNet Movies several times in the last year. The last time was probably a few months ago. It looked really good to me.
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10/1/09 at 6:12am
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Small sidebar. Been reading this fascinating interview with screenwriter/author/director Rudy Wurlitzer (ouch, at the kicking Jim Jarmusch gets) and loved his Peckinpah/Dylan story:

"...After Two-Lane Blacktop I was hired to write Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid for Sam Peckinpah. As I was finishing the script, Bob Dylan came over to my apartment on the Lower East Side and asked if maybe he could be involved as he had always felt connected to Billy the Kid, implying that maybe he was a reincarnation of the famous outlaw.

"I called the producer who was thrilled at the thought of a Bob Dylan score and suggested that I write Dylan a part and then fly to Mexico to meet Sam who was busy with pre-production. We arrived in Durango late one evening and immediately went out to see Sam, who was living outside of town. As we approached the house there was a gunshot from inside, followed by a terrified maid running out the front door. Hesitating, we stepped inside as another shot rang out from upstairs. I called out for Sam, but there was no sound, no answer. Fearing the worst, we crept upstairs.

"At the end of the hall we found Sam in his bedroom standing half-naked in front of a smashed full length mirror staring at his shattered image, a pistol in one hand and a bottle of tequila in the other. "Hi, Sam," I finally managed to mumble. "This is Bob Dylan. He wants to be in the film. I've taken the liberty of writing a part for him." After a long pause, Sam turned, slowly looking Dylan over before he replied, "I'm a big Roger Miller fan myself." After another long silence, Dylan and I left and I was sure that was the end of it.

"But amazingly Dylan was thrilled by this meeting with the old outlaw film director, and from then on became an important part of the film, writing one of the all time great scores as well as playing the part of Alias, a mysterious member of Billy the Kid's gang..."
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10/18/09 at 11:00pm
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That's an interesting anecdote from the screen writer who has always been reluctant to discuss Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. Wurlitzer  mentions none of this in his introduction to his published screenplay (a signet paperback, oop).  Kristofferson has always said he contacted Dylan and asked him to come to Mexico to meet Peckinpah. Kristofferson's account has always been consistent and is on the DVD supplements. As you say, John, it's an interesting sidebar.



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10/28/09 at 5:23am
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After all these years I finally managed to sit through those two horrendous featurettes on the Pat Garrett DVD set at the weekend, and all I can say is they were (literally) unwatchable.  I've tried several times in the past to sit through them but every time after about 5 minutes I had to switch off.  What the interviewees (Kristofferson, Donnie Fritts, Katy Haber) all had to say was excellent, but the bulls**t camera work always made me feel dizzy and sea-sick.  Why can't we just have a stationary camera filming these people reminiscing and telling their stories, instead of this zany, headache inducing nonsense which completely distracts from what they are saying?  I almost buckled again this time but succeeded by switching the picture off and just listening to it.  These have to be among the most disappointing "extras" ever featured on a DVD Special Edition since DVDs were invented.  Actually, when you consider Paul Seydor's travesty with his '05 version of the film, AND the fact they didn't even bother to restore Peckinpah's Workprint, I would say this set could very well be the most disappointing, Not-So-Special "Special Edition" ever released.
 
We, the fans and paying customers, and this GREAT, GREAT film, deserve better.
 
 
 
 
 
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