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Official HTF HD-DVD Review: Terminator 2 Import - Recommended

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Terminator 2 Judgment Day French Import










Studio:


Studio Canal



Year:


2007


Rated:


R


Film Length:


137 minutes Theatrical/152 minutes Special Ed.


Aspect Ratio:


16X9 Enhanced Widescreen (2.35:1) (both versions)


Video:


1080p/24
(both versions)


Audio:


English DTS Master 5.1 (both versions)


Subtitles:


English, French (both versions) (forced French on theatrical)



Release Date: 2007 Import


Overview and Film Information



Everyone knows the what is the now legendary story of what some
would argue is the best sequel in film history, "Terminator 2 Judgment Day" has
thrilled movie nuts and hardcore fans ever since its release back in 1991. T2 is
just one of those impact films that comes along ever few decades, the action,
the special effects, even the strange but equally great musical score will never
be forgotten. For those interested in a simple plot summary, here is one
courtesy of IMDB:


Nearly 10 years have passed since Sarah Connor was targeted
for termination by a cyborg from the future. Now her son, John Connor, the
future leader of the resistance, is the target for a newer, more deadly
terminator. Once again, the resistance has managed to send a protector back to
attempt to save John and his mother Sarah.


T2 is no stranger to home theater owners and has been released
on every format known to man including Blu-Ray, multiple DVD releases, multiple
laserdisc releases, even a WMV and D-Theater HD release. Naturally one of the
most popular films of all-time would be expected to be released on one of the
new optical based HD formats and that time has come. Lionsgate (the domestic
distributor for T2) released T2 on Blu-Ray disc very early in the formats life.
The release had a few issues, some of which were opinions that the video quality
were not that great and the most of which is that the release was only the
theatrical cut of the film and did not include the much preferred Special
Edition version. This special edition HD-DVD release of T2 will not be found on
store shelves in the USA and will not be found on the Blu-Ray format, this
version is a special French only release from Studio Canal and must be imported
if you wish to own it. We would like to think the great folks at Xploited
Cinema
for their amazing service and for providing us with this release.


This special edition version of T2 is a 2 disc set that contains
both versions of the film, the theatrical cut and the Cameron Special Edition
cut. Each version is on a separate disc for the ultimate in picture and audio
quality. There are some slight issues with this release that need to be pointed
out, the theatrical version of the film (Disc 1) features French subtitles that
are not removable, however by using the "C" and "D" buttons on your Toshiba
remote you can move the subtitles and make them smaller, for me and my 2.40:1
projection system this was perfect because the subs can be moved completely into
the black bars and out of the film image. The Special Edition version of the
film (Disc 2) has French and English subs that are user selectable along with
the option of no subs. In addition to the forced French subs on disc 1, the
menus are only in French, this however is not a problem as things are self
explanatory. Disc 2 has user selectable menu languages.


Video Quality **** out of *****


The video quality of both the theatrical and Special Edition
versions is the best that has ever been seen in the home theater environment,
easily bettering the D-Theater release from a few years back. Both versions are
featured in 1080p/24 resolution and are in the OAR of 2.35:1. Video quality is
amazing throughout, many scenes look so good in fact that it is shocking to me
personally because I have never seen T2 look so good. Colors are nearly perfect
and are rich and natural thanks to the super high chroma resolution. Detail
throughout the film averages from fair to great and is excellent in many
scenes. Blacks are solid and very pleasing, which is important for many of
T2's nighttime scenes. Contrast ratio is also very good and shows itself many
times, albeit some rare scenes slightly on the milky side. Whites and blacks are
also slightly clipped and crushed respectively in a few scenes. Both versions of
the film exhibit a slight minor mushy/NR type look and are missing some of the
natural film grain that is expected, this is minor at worst and is not true for
the entire film. It is my opinion that this could be overcome with a new master
and there is a possibility that NR could have been slightly used on this film in
a few scenes. Both versions of the film are downright beautiful 95% of the time
and I recommend them without question, if you are a fan of T2 then you must own
this release, it is a guaranteed smile on any fans face. One great demo scene to
check out is Chapter 7 on the theatrical version of the film, this scene shows
the film at it's best.


Audio Quality ****.5 out of *****


The audio quality of this release leaves right off where the
video does and those are some tough shoes to fill. Both versions of the film
have included a downright breathtaking English DTS-Master 5.1 soundtrack. If the
current Toshiba HD-DVD players could playback the lossless DTS-Master track then
audio quality would be even better. In the current firmware'd Toshiba players
you will want to playback this release from the digital audio output. DTS Master
tracks include what is known as a core DTS track, this core track is a lossy
full-bitrate DTS track at 1506kbs, equivalent to DTS on laserdisc and early DVD.
I have heard so many T2 tracks over the years that I could go on for ages, but I
can say without a doubt that this is the best I have ever heard T2 sound. Both
versions of the film have amazing detail & clarity, downright scary good
ambience and very natural environments. Details and effects are sharp but not
localizable in the least. Bass is solid as a rock, tight and deep. This DTS
track delivers in spades on both releases and when combined with the video is a
true delight.


Extra Features and Menus * out of *****


There are no extra features on this release. There is a nice
preview trailer showing many of Studio Canals releases and upcoming films
including Serpico, The Fog and The Graduate (which will be covered in future
reviews). Both discs include a rather simple test tone and video setup pattern
and a short explanation of how the subtitles work. Menus are nice and well laid
out, easy to navigate and simple.


Overall **** out of *****


If you are a fan of T2 and own a HD-DVD player, I cannot imagine
one not being pleased with this release. Personally I have rarely been this
excited over a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray release thus far in both of the formats short
existences. The video and audio qualities are without a doubt top notch. If you
are however a fan of extras (which I am not) you may want to hold onto that T2
Ultimate Edition DVD release. If you are simply looking for the downright best
image and audio quality that T2 has to offer, then you will want this release
without question. If you only own or plan to own HD-DVD, then this is it, unless
Lionsgate plans to go format neutral. If you have always wanted the Special
Edition version of this film in HD, this is it also. So far the previous
D-Theater, WMV and Blu-Ray releases are all the theatrical version of the film.


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Gary, I had the opportunity to watch this imported HD DVD last weekend and agree with you completely on the PQ and AQ of this release. IMHO, the PQ even bests last years Lionsgate BD release (which I also own).

Thank you for the fine review.

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Thanks for the review, Gary.

I ordered it back in Januari, from Amazon France, more or less a gamble - only to receive "unfortunately delayed" messages a few times (all in French). But I have to agree with you that the final result is almost unbelievably good!


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thanks guys, I too was very pleased with this, more than pleased in fact, I think I may make some custom cover art for the set

-Gary

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And this is why I try to stay away from these sort of reviews! Good job, Gary! You convinced me to try and sneak this past the wife on the old plastic money.

And you believe, at heart, everyone's a killer...
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It would be great to one day see a side by side comparison of the US and French releases.
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I enjoyed your review, Gary.

I would like for Blu-ray to have another crack at T2 with this extended cut, since I was rather disappointed with the previous Blu-ray release of the theatrical edition. Not terrible, of course, but I didn't consider it that big a step up from SD-DVD.
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Must....resist....spending....$40...to....import.. ......


CURSE YOU MURRELL!!
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Nice review Gary. I'm all over it.
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This review pushed me over the edge and I just ordered my copy from Xploited Cinema today. Can't wait to get it as T2 is one of my all-time favorite action flicks.

"If you're good at something, never do it for free."

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Just did the same Brent!
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Mine shipped today and the e-mail said it will be here in 2-5 days. SWEET!!!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Glover
Just did the same Brent!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent M
Mine shipped today and the e-mail said it will be here in 2-5 days. SWEET!!!

Tim and Brent, I promise you that you will not be disappointed. This is a very well done release.

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Second that!

Next we need The Terminator (which I already own on BD too).


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Cees, who owns the EU rights for Terminator?

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Thomas,

I'm not sure. There have been numerous releases on VHS and DVD - even "trilogy sets" - by different studios: (Fox) Pathé, Carolco, Sony Pictures (!), but most of them by "MGM Home Entertainment (Europe)".

The BD is available here too (probably just a US import).


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Got mine today from xploited. Wow! Pretty amazing looking.
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Mine shipped today and the e-mail said it will be here in 2-5 days. SWEET!!!

Mine shipped today too Brent! Looks we both can enjoy Awnuld in HD DVD.
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Sad we have to import awesome movies like this rather than getting U.S. releases in a timely mannor.
My movie collection

Movies in desperate need of a DVD/BD release!

My twisted, uncensored views on things.
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In some ways it's kind of cool to get a few imports. One of those nananabooboo things to brag about. Of course we spent double!
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Of course we spent double!
Yeah, but on a 2-disc set.

And I have to spend those shipping costs all the time (but not this time. On the other hand, you guys don't have to pay VAT for this one )....


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Wow, Xploited Cinema is FAST!!! Ordered this title on Sunday and already received the package today. Not sure when I'll get a chance to watch it, but at least it's already in my grubby little hands.

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Hopefully mine will be here Saturday!

Cees, good point. Actually I kind of feel a bit like an elitist paying more. (for a better HD disc too )
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Terminator 2: Judgement Day arrived today via xploited cinema! Dang, very fast shipping and this was packed like Fort Knox. Too cool.

Guess what I'll be watching tonight in HD DVD?.......

A W N U L D
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Tim,

I just watched my copy tonight and all I can say is WOW!!! T2 is probably the only film I've purchased as many times as Star Wars, but this HD-DVD version is by far the best it has ever looked or sounded. If anyone is on the fence about this title do yourself a favor and get it now and I guarantee you will not be disappointed. As Ahnuld would say "Trust Me".

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Hiya Gary!

Nice to see you over here and away from the bickering and often childish AVS crowd!

Nice review!

d
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Brent is right as is Gary, Robert G, and others who've purchased this French Import. Wow is right. Looked fabulous on my Mits projector. By far the best looking I've ever seen T2. (and like Brent I've owned every copy known to man)

Every one of you chumps just go ahead pluck down about $36 shipped from Xploited Cinema and get this gem. It's worth it.

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/te...e-p-11233.html

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Hiya Gary!

Nice to see you over here and away from the bickering and often childish AVS crowd!

Nice review!

d

you got it mack daddy, thanks

the AVS crowd is a total joke, talking to them about films is like discussing politics with a infant

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the AVS crowd is a total joke, talking to them about films is like discussing politics with a infant


Substitute the word "films" with pretty much any other topic and you've described the overall vibe at AVS. I used to post there frequently, but now the only time I go there is to get information on the new Pioneer 8th Gen. plasmas that are coming out this fall. Aside from that I avoid that place like the plague. It's so much nicer here at good old HTF.

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the problem is that the software forums are plagued with fanboy gamers who want all movies to look like HDNet, no film grain, perfect vivid colors and so on, sorry but that just ins't the way things are or should be

I am not giving up on AVS, I put my 2 cents worth in on film qualities (as does Mack) whenever I get a chance and I always get flamed

heck, many folks over there want 2.35:1 films to "fill their screen"

-Gary

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