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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Outside of junk mail mail filtering, the two things I'd like to see most changed with Mail is the ability to delete multiple messages at once and, more importantly, a prompt to bypass messages above a certain size.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Todd,

Perhaps there is something I missed....

Why not go to the store and get one. I hear there are still
plenty in stock.

You can still cancel your order from Apple. Hard to believe they
are taking 2 weeks to ship it out.

It depends on the store, I guess. The Apple Store at Willow Bend/Plano was out of stock tonight, but expecting shipments tomorrow.

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7/2/07 at 9:06pm
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Here's the case I picked up tonight:

http://www.goincase.com/products/det...eeve-es89014/1




The key feature when comparing to the Belkin Sleek Acrylic case that I used for the past couple of days is that the belt clip actually holds onto a belt...

- Steve
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7/3/07 at 12:38am
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

There's an excellent review of the iPhone up on Apple Insider. Although I don't agree with the author on everything (he actually likes the Mail app), what sets this one apart is his discussion of the design philosophy behind the phone and how it drove some of the more controversial design decisions. Recommended reading for fans and haters alike.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Craig,

Thanks for the article. One of the better reviews I have read
on the iPhone.

Steve,

That is a popular case. In fact, Steve Simon bought that very case.

The only problem you may have (and the reason why I did not
buy it) is the clip. From my experience with that type of clip,
they are very tight and secure initially. After a while they wear,
loosen up, and then the phone starts falling off the belt at a moment's
notice. My Fortte had that same clip and I ended up having to have
it replaced. Of course, you may have better luck than I did.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Oh man, has anyone seen the video online of the woman from Dallas who bought the #1 spot in a line for $800 from some kid to purchase $100,000. worth of iPhones to sell on ebay, just to be told she could only buy one? Oh man, its great. jerks like that deserve that kind of disappointment. here is the link
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

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There's an excellent review of the iPhone up on Apple Insider. Although I don't agree with the author on everything (he actually likes the Mail app), what sets this one apart is his discussion of the design philosophy behind the phone and how it drove some of the more controversial design decisions. Recommended reading for fans and haters alike.

Thanks for the link! I think this is the best line from the article:

"The iPhone is simply the most incredible piece of consumer hardware I've ever touched. In working with it, it repeatedly occurred to me that I simply could not have imagined this could exist today."

I think that's my main reaction to it as well. It's not just that it's a sophisticated cell phone, or a great video iPod, or a portable web browser, or a vitual map: It's that all of these applications (and more) are seamlessly linked together by the same simplistic and innovative interface; and in a form factor that fits in my hand. (I kept thinking to myself: "I've got Wikipedia in my hand!!! And if I want to, I can listen to my favorite music or view a TV episode that I missed!! And, oh yeah: I can make a phone call too! What would Isaac Asimov have thought about this thing??") The fact that this is "Iteration 1.0" of this device absolutely blows my mind! What on earth will this thing evolve into in about two years??

BTW, all the AT&T stores near me are sold out of the 8GB iPhone and they can't tell me when they'll get anymore in. But they do have 4GB iPhones on display to play with. And after just 10 minutes of playing with one of the display models I was sold on the concept. (But the fact that they actually call this thing a phone is laughable to me. Perhaps they should have called it the iInfo.) I may wait until my Verizon plan is up at the end of August, but I'm most definitely "going to get me one of these!!"

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Oh man, has anyone seen the video online of the woman from Dallas who bought the #1 spot in a line for $800 from some kid to purchase $100,000. worth of iPhones to sell on ebay, just to be told she could only buy one?

Loved that video! It would have been even more priceless
if she shelled out a few grand if I heard that others were for that
coveted first-in-line spot.
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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Craig,

Thanks for the article. One of the better reviews I have read
on the iPhone.

Steve,

That is a popular case. In fact, Steve Simon bought that very case.

The only problem you may have (and the reason why I did not
buy it) is the clip. From my experience with that type of clip,
they are very tight and secure initially. After a while they wear,
loosen up, and then the phone starts falling off the belt at a moment's
notice. My Fortte had that same clip and I ended up having to have
it replaced. Of course, you may have better luck than I did.

Well, the Belkin case (the one that doubles as a stand) flat does not work in the clip department. It works so badly, in fact, that I discovered an Easter Egg...

Seriously...

First, a little background. I got Guitar Hero 2 for the Xbox 360. One of the songs exclusive to the Xbox version is "Dead!" as performed by My Chemical Romance. I liked that song so much that I got a few MCR CD's, including "Welcome to the Black Parade" which includes the song "Dead!"

All that being said, this album is synced as part of the iPod on the iPhone.

I dropped it yesterday. The lame-assed clip on the Belkin Acrylic case just slid off my pocket and the iPhone plopped on the floor. It was off, nothing was playing, I was scared witless, so I picked the phone up and looked to see if I had broken the glass.

In the top center of the screen, where it would normally display either the lock for when the phone had been off, or the time when the phone was on was a single word:

Dead!

I kid you not.

Fortunately, the phone was very much alive, but from that point forward, it went into my pocket instead of clipped on the side.

Leave it to Apple to have a sense of humor when the phone has a motion sensor in it. That also means all drops are logged.

- Steve
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7/3/07 at 5:28am
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Amazing story!

DEAD!
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It still makes me laugh. These guys are brilliant.

- Steve
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I have to admit. it is a clever thing for Apple to do. I think my heart would have stopped if that happened to me. Id be the one who was dead. I wonder what other clever things are hidden. Have you all seen that the iPhone's Root password was cracked?
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

That is the case I have as well....so far, working very well for me.
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7/3/07 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Jean D
Oh man, has anyone seen the video online of the woman from Dallas who bought the #1 spot in a line for $800 from some kid to purchase $100,000. worth of iPhones to sell on ebay, just to be told she could only buy one? Oh man, its great. jerks like that deserve that kind of disappointment. here is the link

looks set up to me.
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7/3/07 at 11:09pm
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

And, as I expected, I spent almost all day fielding questions from people trying to connect iPhone to Exchange/Lotus Notes.

Yes, I know.. they should have known better, but now I know for sure of at least one Mortgage group that thought 18 iPhones would replace their RIMs.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

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And, as I expected, I spent almost all day fielding questions from people trying to connect iPhone to Exchange/Lotus Notes.

Yes, I know.. they should have known better, but now I know for sure of at least one Mortgage group that thought 18 iPhones would replace their RIMs.
Wow, as a fellow IT worker - that sucks. If someone tried that here, our answer would be "tough". Of course, we're a government contractor and nobody can spend a penny on IT without going through standards boards, etc. It's a PITA, but at least we can reasonably control our IT infrastructure.

And, all our execs have BlackBerrys, to which they're completedly addicted (one of the top priority items in our disaster recovery plan is to get the BlackBerry accounts moved and back online). I doubt the iPhone even crossed any of their minds.
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7/5/07 at 1:34pm
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

posting this from the iPhone.

I like it, a lot. It's not perfect, though. I wish email could be searched and sorted; I hope there will be a vnc client. That's about it though.
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7/6/07 at 6:56pm
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iPhone users will get a kick out of this one. Chicago Tribune technology columnist and self-proclaimed "Gadget Advisor" Eric Gwinn was brought onto WTTW-TV's Chicago Tonight program yesterday evening to show off the iPhone to host Phil Ponce. So much for bringing in the experts...

Eric Gwinn on the iPhone
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7/6/07 at 8:19pm
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Guys, I work in a Windows environment, but have the Mac at home, where I have been syncing primarily.

Today, I loaded iTunes on the work laptop and was able to sync Outlook calendars without affecting the sync ability from the Mac. It allowed Outlook and iCal calendars to be merged, both on the iPhone, and on the Outlook calendar.

I am betting email would sync as well, but I am not interested in getting work email on the iPhone, just my schedule.

Very cool.

- Steve
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

so, has any "i've opened my iphone" stuff popped up anywere?
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http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone
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so, has any "i've opened my iphone" stuff popped up anywere?


http://thinksecret.com/archives/iphonetakeapart/

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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

i saw the thinksecret one on the first one.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Played with it at the Apple store. I guess California is one of those states that has had a pretty regular supply of iPhones. Anyway, I liked the snappiness and responsiveness of the GUI.

But using that keyboard was killing me (and I'm not a big guy and don't have large fingers). I am a two-finger typer on a PDA device, and the iPhone would alternate between not being able to keep up with my multiple finger typing (perhaps they were too close together and the iPhone thought I was trying to execute a two-finger command), or I would get the wrong letter even when it looked like I was hitting the right button on the screen.

It's a nice device, but I think I'm going to wait for rev.B before buying.
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7/8/07 at 4:41am
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

Trust your feelings. Use the force.

You just have to train it with your common words and mistakes. Auto-completion is actually making the thumbs method of typing surprisingly accurate.

I am a big guy with large fingers, btw.

- Steve
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7/8/07 at 9:20am
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

You know, I originally thought Apple's published response of something
like "trust yourself with the keyboard" was a load of bullshit....

....but it's actually true. Once you trust yourself, using the keyboard
becomes second nature. I can type just as fast on the virtual keyboard
as I did on my Blackberry (if not faster).

I have to say that now that I got my email problems worked out
thanks to the GMAIL workaround (see the "sticky" thread in this
forum area), the iPhone has become NIRVANA for me.

In fact, it's kind of funny how I have become so obsessive with
the finer details of this phone. I take pictures of all the people
in my contact book (I'll be taking some people photos in Vegas) so
that when the phone rings, their picture pops up. This also translates
well on my Mac end, as any email that arrives from someone in my
contact list gets accompanied by their photo.

For me, the iPhone has lived up to the hype. I just feel
that it is still $200 more expensive than it should be and that anyone
who doesn't feel the absolute need to own one now should wait for
the second generation unit that is sure to arrive in the next year.
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

So I looked online this morning and all of our Seattle area stores are showing "green" for stock. I look up my closest store and it says that iPhone sales start at 10am. I arrive at 9:50 and the store already appears to be open (with a sign stating that phones go on sale at 9). There are two people I would ID as store employees. They seem to be leading a "how to use a MAC" class. I wander around playing with the iPhones and iMacs for about 10 minutes hoping someone will come over an help me. There is a large display panel above, what I assumed was, the checkout counter stating that the next "appointment" is at 4:15pm(????)...Is this Baskin Robbins...do I have to "take a number" to be served?

Another employee came out shortly after 10, but bee lined it to the Baller wit da grill and his J-Ho girlfriend (who just walked in). They are told that they are out of stock.

Geesh...put up a "sold out" sign or something... I usually am annoyed by the workers that stand at front of stores like the GAP with their "Call me Miss Jackson if you're nasty" headset on, but at least I get acknowledged.

Just venting....will probably just order online and wait...

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"Call me Miss Jackson if you're nasty" headset on

Gotta git me one of those!
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Re: iPhone - so...what's the deal?

I just ordered the Apple Bluetooth headset.

Hopefully it will ship this week or next.

- Steve
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... There is a large display panel above, what I assumed was, the checkout counter stating that the next "appointment" is at 4:15pm(????)...Is this Baskin Robbins...do I have to "take a number" to be served?...


Wrong assumption. That's the genius bar. If you ever have a problem with your Mac, iPhone, iPod or other Apple product, just make an appointment with the genius bar and they'll take a look at it. Appointments can be made online. If your item needs to be sent off for repairs, you can just leave it with them and pick it up later (they take care of the shipping, etc.).

This, by the way, is much better than the phone support everyone is left with for every other manufacturer. (Phone support is available, too, of course.)

Note: the genius bar staff are NOT the same as the regular store staff. That is, they will refer you to a sales person if you approach them about buying something.

Most stores also offer classes on a variety of topics, such as getting the most from iPhoto, etc.

No ice cream, though.
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