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Wondering if anyone else has run into this. . .I got a copy of the DVD-A edition of Deadwing. The DTS and PCM tracks are fine. But when I play the DVD-A track, it's silent. It *looks* like it's playing; the proper screen comes up and the timer runs, but there's no sound. (Other DVD-A discs are working fine.)
Is this most likely a defective disc? Is there any history of compatibility problems with certain discs on certain players (mine's a Pioneer DV-563a)?
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Thanks, Felix. I hadn't heard about a firmware issue, since I haven't had any other problems with the deck. Do you have a link?
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My In Absentia DVD-A works just fine. I think I'll try and contact the label to see if they've had any other reports of this problem.
I bought the disc from an Amazon seller, so I'm hoping to figure this out somehow before dealing with the hassle of mailing it back. I wrote to the guy and asked him if he'd managed to play the DVD-A track (most of those sellers are merchants who may or may not test everything). He told me that he had the same experience, and just assumed that the DTS track was the DVD-A track! (If you put it in a non-DVD-A deck, then only the DTS and PCM tracks appear on the menu. Maybe that's what he saw.)
At least he's honest.
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Yep, this deck is like that. I just leave it in DVD-A mode all the time, since that doesn't seem to affect movie-watching. If I switch it to DVD-V, then it resets all the other video settings and I have to futz with 'em.
Jeff, I'll contact Pioneer about the firmware upgrade. If I can't get it otherwise, I may hit you up for a hand.
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Well, I spoke with Pioneer customer service, and they told me that the firmware upgrade should fix the problem. Unfortunately, they no longer send firmware discs out to customers because apparently there were too many issues with people screwing up their equipment with the wrong firmware. So I need to take it in to one of their oh-so-conveniently-located authorized service centers.

Jeff, is there any way you could send me the file via FTP, or one of those file-sending sites like Yousendit.com?
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AHA! Found an ISO of the 1.906 version of the firmware. Jeff, is that the same one you've got?
(Incidentally, Pioneer's Japanese site has a page where you can download firmware upgrades! Assuming you're using Japanese gear, of course.

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Re: DVD-A Issues?
I need the file too. I never went for the upgrade because Pioneer demanded that the player be taken in to a facility, even though we are all gear-head enough to do this ourselves.
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BINGO!!! It worked!



Very easy -- I just unzipped the .iso file, burned it to CD-R, and stuck it in the player. After about 2 or 3 minutes of "download. . .step 1. . .step 2. . ." on the LED (not the TV), it ejected the disc and displayed "ok." I turned the deck off and on, re-applied all my A/V settings, and voila, Deadwing in glorious DVD-A! Too bad everyone else is asleep so I can't crank it until tomorrow.
I am pretty sure that
this is the file that I downloaded. If you have trouble getting it, let me know and I can email it to you.
Thanks to everyone for your help!
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Damn, I just discovered that the DVD-ROM drive in my PC reads DVD-Audio tracks.
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Re: DVD-A Issues?
For some reason the OP of the link provided by Aaron zipped the .iso
In that case he 'did' unzip it first

, then burn the iso as required.
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Glad to be of service!
Jeff, hope you won at golf, or at least at beer.

It was indeed a .zip file. I extracted the .iso and then used Nero to burn the CD.
Funny coda -- I told the guy I bought the disc from (remember, he had the same problem but for some reason didn't realize that it was a problem) about the fix, and he discovered that his Denon required a similar firmware upgrade. He found the upgrade for his deck, and now it not only plays DVD-As properly, it's gone multi-region.
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Re: DVD-A Issues?
He didn't go into detail, but it sounded like it was a similar procedure.
The funny thing is, I've had the player for years and never run into a problem with DTS, SACD, or DVD-A discs before. Deadwing was the first one that didn't work properly. (Even the last Porcupine Tree DVD-A, In Absentia, has always worked fine.)
I was just lucky to not have bought any of the problem discs until now.
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Re: DVD-A Issues?
The problem disc for my 563 was the DVD-A edition of "Tommy" by The Who. There may have been one other DVD-A as well but I just don't remember which one. All SACD and DTS discs I tried played as they should have.
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The problem disc for my 563 was the DVD-A edition of "Tommy" by The Who. There may have been one other DVD-A as well but I just don't remember which one. All SACD and DTS discs I tried played as they should have.
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Tommy was the very first hi-rez audio disc I bought -- I bought it the night I bought the player (which I was getting mainly to upgrade to a progressive-scan player). But it was the SACD and I never had any trouble with it.
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Aaron does this mean you can rip stereo DVD-A tracks? If so, what brand of DVD-ROM drive do you have?
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Not yet it doesn't, but not for lack of trying.

I would like to get Deadwing onto my iPod (then again, I don't think I attempted to simply rip it using iTunes).
I *think* the drive is a Toshiba -- it came from the factory in my Dell desktop about 3 years ago.
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