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Babylon 5: The Lost Tales

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Re: Babylon 5: The Lost Tales

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I have to admit to no expertise in the intricacies of tv and movie financing, but they do have their own network

Nope. WB is part owner (and very much the junior partner) in a network effectively controlled by CBS. They got rolled badly on the deal, which is why only one or two WB shows made it to a CW heavily populated by UPN refugees. And whatever you think of their programming, it makes perfect sense for a small network to try to shoot for a narrow audience segment and tailor its offering to it, rather than following the "one-size-fits-all" model of the Big Four. There's a reason that the market couldn't support two small networks, especially in this age of declining ad revenues. The fact is B5 does not fit the demographic that is keeping The CW afloat, so it doesn't matter that WB owns a part of it.

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Well, I always thought that was partly due to the Shy-Fi Network and its (often deservedly) low visibility.

The original pilot film was produced for the same PTEN netlet that carried the series. The Legend of the Rangers series pilot was produced for the Sci-Fi Channel. All of the other TV movies (including the re-edit of The Gathering) were produced for TNT - which at the time specialized in often high-quality made-for-TV movies. And they did respectable, but not spectacular numbers. (In the 3 to 4 million viewer range. Pretty good for basic cable, but nowhere near the 10+ million Sci-Fi did with the Dune minis.)

Even the Rangers pilot did OK considering that it ended up running opposite one of the highest-rated football games in playoff history. (The post September 11th NFL schedule changes pretty much rendered Sci-Fi's huge advertising campaign - which included trailers run before showings of The Fellowship of the Ring in selected theaters - moot.) The project never went to series because Sci-Fi and Warner Bros. couldn't agree on money and owernship. (Sci-Fi wanted to own a piece of the series. WB doesn't make that kind of deal. Then somebody at Universal said, "Don't we already own one of these continuing plot spaceship things?" And thus Battlestar Galactica was reborn.)

The point is the TV movies were doing OK while the show was still on the air or at least in heavy rerun rotation. (Sci-Fi had done well with the B5 reruns, which is what prompted their interest a Rangers
spin-off.) But it has been years since the show has even aired anywhere in the U.S. That means nobody wants to buy the syndication package. That may help explain the show's success on DVD - you can't find it anywhere else unless you want to watch it on a computer screen. But it doesn't suggest any real interest in a TV revival. That's why The Lost Tales was a straight-to-DVD project designed to break even on DVD sales alone. If it sold well, and if enough material were created to fill a time slot or two, WB could offer it practically for free to TV stations and cable networks and maybe raise the profile of the series again. But since the initial disc proved too short to be a TV movie, and JMS isn't interested in doing more, that won't be happening either.

Again, not entirely WB's fault. "It isn't personal - it's just business."

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Re: Babylon 5: The Lost Tales

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
As much as I know Joe's a fan of B5, I'm glad ot see a realistic assessment of the chances for movie returns. It'd be nice if profits could be ignored and art won out, but that's not realistic.

I've still never seen a single episode of B5, and I'm OK with scifi in its various forms. I've seen every Star Trek episode and movie. I've seen all of Farscape. When B5 aired, I never saw a single commercial, nor read a single article, that made me want to watch the show. And I'd say I'm an easy date on that one. The only reason I started loosely following B5 is based on discussion on this forum. I've since collected it all, and will watch it. Maybe I'll fall in love with it.

Once you watch it, odds are that you will fall in love with it. Good things are ahead for you.


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But at this point, I wouldn't go see a B5 movie any more than I went to see Serenity. On the other hand, I'm quite looking forward to Dark Knight, if for no other reason than I'm well aware (due to coverage) it's out there, and fairly good.

In all likelihood, you shouldn't go to see a B5 movie before you watch the pilot, Seasons 1 thru 5, the rest of the TV movies in the movie collection DVD set, Crusade and the Lost Tales DVD. (I left out the Rangers TV movie/pilot on purpose. ) Don't worry, you'll probably have plenty of time to watch all of the above several times before any B5 theatrical release ever comes out. Hell will probably freeze over before Warner Brothers produces a B5 theatrical release that meets the criteria of JMS' statement:

..."a full- featured, big-budget feature film."
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the truth's going to come out. The truth is....
Kendarr: ....out of fashion.
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