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Where is Mary Tyler Moore Season 5?
8/23/08 at 3:47am
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Re: Where is Mary Tyler Moore Season 5?
Now there's a BOGOF sale at amazon, all the MTM DVD's are included and each one is currently in the top 100 amazon sales list...I wonder after this and Oprah, sales must be pretty good at least on amazon.
8/23/08 at 6:22pm
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"MTM" was far from a "bomb in syndication" --- it was one of the most successful syndicated series of its era, along with "MASH," "Happy Days" and a handful of others. Repeats of "MTM" were a staple on many broadcast stations from when the series entered syndication in the mid-70s until the late 80s/early 90s---otherwise, how would a series that ended production in 1977 be so well remembered by its fans?I grew up in Boston, and recall that Channel 56 (one of the two major outlets for off-network syndication programming in that market in the 70s and 80s) aired "MTM" repeats on weekdays at 7:00 p.m. for many years, and if memory serves, in its first few years of airing "MTM," Channel 56 aired back-to-back episodes between 7:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m on weekdays. A "bomb" doesn't air for years in such a desirable time slot.
While the series may not have as strong an appeal today, to rank "MTM" in the same group of series that did fail in syndication such as "Murphy Brown" ---which many stations exiled to obscure time slots within a few months of its syndication premiere due to poor ratings---is flat-out inaccurate.
8/23/08 at 6:59pm
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There was a book in 1984 about sitcoms that were available in syndication at the time and it talked about how they did. It did not speak well of MTM's performance there (nor that of Happy Days). That is the only place I got it. Although I remember it airing on WFMY in Greensboro (back when cable systems gave you two network affiliates for each network, we had 2 ABC an 2 CBS stations but we only had 1 NBC) at about 8 in the morning circa 1988. I apologize if I have been spreading misleading information.As for the other MTM Productions shows, I don't know how they did other than what the book said. As someone born in the 1980s, I don't remember seeing any of them on Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville stations, except for WKRP on channel 40 in the early 90s (they also aired the new WKRP as well), and Hill Street Blues on channel 17 in its pre-NBC days. Newhart (the 1980s one) aired on channel 2 out of Greensboro at 11:30 at night, but I do not remember a Raleigh affiliate airing it, and we got almost all the major 1980s sitcoms when they hit syndication. Old TV Guides I acquired suggest that MTM lasted a few years on channel 11 in Raleigh.
I do remember Murphy Brown landing with a thud in syndication. Topical shows generally don't do well in syndication although All in the Family seems to have done well on TV Land.
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8/24/08 at 8:58am
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I know the Oprah giveaway didn't count as actual sales, but the exposure it got certainly drove up sales on Amazon.
9/1/08 at 10:02am
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Maybe our email messages really paid off now that Fox has decided to bring us the final 3 seasons of MTM.Lawn Ranger Motto: You're only young once, but you can be always be immature.
9/1/08 at 10:46am
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That is amazin' newsAll our emails to Mr Feldstein has paid off as
check out the NY Times website for the full story.
9/1/08 at 8:17pm
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Link for the lazy.
9/1/08 at 8:54pm
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Wow. Can it be true?! I clicked on this thread, no longer thinking that good news would ever be announced and... Whoa! Can't wait to hear something a little more concrete but it seems as though the long wait may be coming to an end? Am I dreaming? I haven't seen the Chuckles episode or the finale since they originally aired.
9/1/08 at 9:29pm
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Re: Where is Mary Tyler Moore Season 5?
It would be nice after all this time if they just released a full series set with maybe the Mary and Rhoda TV movie and/or the pilots for Rhoda, Phyllis, and Lou Grant. Would actually like Rhoda's wedding included which featured most of the MTM cast, except Ted Knight, but I doubt they would include that before putting out a Rhoda set. Still it would be nice to include with season 5 which has an episode with Mary leaving for the wedding with everyone getting food poisoning including Sue Ann who sabotaged a girl trying to take her job as the Happy Homemaker.Mary: How could she have forgotten to refrigerate the cream ?
Sue Ann: She didn't. She made the mistake of asking me to do it.
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9/1/08 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by MatthewA
There was a book in 1984 about sitcoms that were available in syndication at the time and it talked about how they did. It did not speak well of MTM's performance there (nor that of Happy Days). That is the only place I got it. Although I remember it airing on WFMY in Greensboro (back when cable systems gave you two network affiliates for each network, we had 2 ABC an 2 CBS stations but we only had 1 NBC) at about 8 in the morning circa 1988. I apologize if I have been spreading misleading information.
As for the other MTM Productions shows, I don't know how they did other than what the book said. As someone born in the 1980s, I don't remember seeing any of them on Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville stations, except for WKRP on channel 40 in the early 90s (they also aired the new WKRP as well), and Hill Street Blues on channel 17 in its pre-NBC days. Newhart (the 1980s one) aired on channel 2 out of Greensboro at 11:30 at night, but I do not remember a Raleigh affiliate airing it, and we got almost all the major 1980s sitcoms when they hit syndication. Old TV Guides I acquired suggest that MTM lasted a few years on channel 11 in Raleigh. I do remember Murphy Brown landing with a thud in syndication. Topical shows generally don't do well in syndication although All in the Family seems to have done well on TV Land. |
MTM was not successful in reruns in NY where it aired on WNBC in late afternoon. I don't think it was renewed after its initial deal expired. It finished its run airing overnight.
9/2/08 at 1:41am
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"Link for the lazy".Not for the want of tryin' Alan_H
Apparently you need 10 posts before you can include links in your posts
9/2/08 at 3:11am
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So if this is true then what horrible show-destroying cost-cutting measures will they use ?
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9/2/08 at 4:09pm
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"Link for the lazy".
Not for the want of tryin' Alan_H Apparently you need 10 posts before you can include links in your posts |
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9/2/08 at 4:14pm
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This is fabulous news! I only hope we get the final 2 seasons of Bob Newhart and may even get started on Rhoda. Having all of Mary, Bob and Rhoda would make me a VERY happy camper.
9/2/08 at 4:36pm
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Alan_H ,,,No problemWhat a great week...Great news I am beaming (smiling) at the propest of finally getting to watch ther end of this series.
Reading The Time peice,,i didn't relaise the show in its final years began to concentrate more on Mary at work.
Hopefully they can work out a release schedule asap.,,u think they will release all 3x seasons on the same day or release them say 3 months apart?
9/2/08 at 6:30pm
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't exploded. I hope it is not a bad sign.Quote:
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They will probably replace "It's a Long Way to Tipperary" with some nondescript humming.
9/3/08 at 12:56am
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So if this is true then what horrible show-destroying cost-cutting measures will they use ?
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The same they used on seasons 1-4. IIRC, the masters used already existed before the DVDs were made, and possibly before News Corporation acquired IFE giving them the MTM Productions library.
Luckily, the copyright on "It's a Long Way to Tipperary" expired some 20 years ago. Anything else, unless it causes huge gaps or plot holes, will probably be snipped unless Fox got that message too.
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9/3/08 at 3:34am
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't exploded. I hope it is not a bad sign.
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Probably because it was already discussed in a thread of its own here:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...-ny-times.html
Not sure why this older got resurrected later to duplicate the discussion.
9/3/08 at 6:35am
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MTM was not successful in reruns in NY where it aired on WNBC in late afternoon. I don't think it was renewed after its initial deal expired. It finished its run airing overnight.
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The late night run became a fixture on NYC TV. It may not have been successful in its afternoon time slot, but its airings on channel 4 WNBC late night (following the "Tomorrow Show" and later David Letterman) in back-to-back episodes for about five years (roughly 1980-85) was successful. In college (NYU) every night a large, eclectic group of us would gather in our dorm's TV room (complete with typewriters, Norton Anthologies and Organic Chem text books) for the nightly ritual. There was at least one article published at this time commenting on how the repeats of MTM repeatedly beat its time slot competitors (Joe Allen, et. al.) which was only right since MTM was far and away the best thing on late night NYC TV.
11/28/08 at 11:47am
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Any word on when they are releasing the last three seasons? I think Ed Aswner and his son were responsible for some special features stuff produced. Whether we will see it on the DVD's who knows.
12/6/08 at 11:44am
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It looks like "Oprah" is rerunning the MTM reunion show this Monday (Dec. 8th). I didn't see it originally, but wasn't this the show where everyone got MTM DVD sets?
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12/7/08 at 7:21am
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The late night run became a fixture on NYC TV. It may not have been successful in its afternoon time slot, but its airings on channel 4 WNBC late night (following the "Tomorrow Show" and later David Letterman) in back-to-back episodes for about five years (roughly 1980-85) was successful. In college (NYU) every night a large, eclectic group of us would gather in our dorm's TV room (complete with typewriters, Norton Anthologies and Organic Chem text books) for the nightly ritual. There was at least one article published at this time commenting on how the repeats of MTM repeatedly beat its time slot competitors (Joe Allen, et. al.) which was only right since MTM was far and away the best thing on late night NYC TV.
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Nothing is successful that runs overnight for the simple reason that a station gets very little revenue from advertising in the overnight hours. Overnight spots are usually given away as make goods or are sold at very low rates. If a program is not generating revenue it is not a success no matter how many people are watching. Sadly TV stations got much more revenue from infomercials than from old movies and TV shows, which is why old movies and TV shows were mostly removed from overnight broadcast TV.
Thanks for the Oprah heads up. I will have to tape it as I did not see it when first broadcast.
12/8/08 at 9:40am
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What are the chances after Fox gets MTM completely released. That we might see Lou Grant come out?
12/8/08 at 11:00am
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What are the chances after Fox gets MTM completely released. That we might see Lou Grant come out?
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Or Rhoda?
12/8/08 at 11:16am
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Or Rhoda?
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Sure, although for me, I do not know i want to own Rhoda or not. I have been watching Lou Grant on Hulu.com and i think this is well done.
12/10/08 at 8:45am
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This is one of my favorite shows of the era, Mary as the independent career woman, Lou, the gruff but lovable boss and Ted the narcissist . . . Can't wait for the remaining seasons - the series definitely got better over time!
2/12/09 at 1:08am
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So who got their Amazon alert today announcing that The Mary Tyler Moore Show Complete Series is available to pre-order at $125.99.No artwork or actual release date is on the Amazon page.
2/13/09 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by droach75
So who got their Amazon alert today announcing that The Mary Tyler Moore Show Complete Series is available to pre-order at $125.99.
No artwork or actual release date is on the Amazon page. |
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2/13/09 at 3:05pm
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