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Photo Surprise for '33 KONG Fans — Original Spider Miniature from Spider-Pit Sequence

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Greetings 1933 KONG Fans:

This is a follow-up to a posting I made in the 1933 King Kong in November thread waaay back on June 12, 2005.

The subject of that original posting was the long-lost, deleted spider-pit sequence from the 1933 KING KONG. To quickly sum up my original posting, one of my oldest and closest friends, Josh Berman, owns the original stop motion spider miniature used in the sequence. (If Josh’s name sounds familiar, it’s because he’s also the person who located and saved much of the missing footage from IT’S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD.) Two spider miniatures were created for the spider-pit sequence — one was destroyed at some point after filming; the other was subsequently featured in THE BLACK SCORPION before disappearing for at least 40+ years.

For the full story about how Josh located the spider (and how I was there when we found it!), please refer to the KONG link above.

In a later posting, I promised to post some photos of Josh's spider — nicknamed "Paul". Unfortunately, due to some unpleasant family matters I had no choice but dealing with at the time, the posting of the photos was completely forgotten. Until today.

I was posting a couple of photos over at this IT’S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD Restoration thread today when I suddenly remembered about the KONG spider photos.

Long-story short — here are some wonderful photos of “Paul” for your perusal and enjoyment, including a couple very detailed close-up shots, courtesy of Josh Berman:


Josh Berman (left) with Forrest J. Ackerman (right) holding “Paul”


“Paul” on display at the KING KONG 50th Anniversary Celebration, March 1983
Grauman's Chinese Theatre (Screening) and The Roosevelt Hotel (Exhibit), Hollywood, CA


Super Close-Up of “Paul” — AHHHHHH! Scary Spider!!!!


“Paul” on exhibit in 1982, a couple of months after being rediscovered.


Yup... another close-up of “Paul”

Well, there you go folks… I sincerely hope that you enjoyed finally seeing these!

Regards to all!

Jeff Krispow
Retired LD/DVD Reviewer
http://www.laserrot.com
jeff@laserrot.com

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Re: Photo Surprise for '33 KONG Fans — Original Spider Miniature from Spider-Pit Sequence

Awesome! Thanks for sharing them!

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Great pictures, Jeff - a wonderful piece of film history, thanks!

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Re: Photo Surprise for '33 KONG Fans — Original Spider Miniature from Spider-Pit Sequence

This thread belongs elsewhere.

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did."  T.E. Lawrence

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Re: Photo Surprise for '33 KONG Fans — Original Spider Miniature from Spider-Pit Sequence

I have moved this thread to the MOVIES area.
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Re: Photo Surprise for '33 KONG Fans — Original Spider Miniature from Spider-Pit Sequence

Ron,

Many thanks for moving this to the correct area — my apologies for posting this in the wrong area.

Since this was a continuation from the earlier KONG DVD thread, I simply assumed that it should be posted in the same area.

Thanks again!

Jeff Krispow
Retired LD/DVD Reviewer
http://www.laserrot.com
jeff@laserrot.com

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I'm curious. Is this the condition it was purchased in?

Every other Kong creature is rotted away and not much is left but rotted rubber, cloth and the solid armature. This looks in near perfect condition with almost no aging.

How is that possible?
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Odd how it doesn't have the same detail (or design) that all of the other Marcel Delgado Kong models of the time had.
-Kevin M.

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Hi Darren and Kevin,

As both of your questions are somewhat interrelated, I have a combination answer for you.

First off, the condition of the spider in the photos is essentially the same as when it was purchased. However, as noted in the descriptions, you must remember that the spider was purchased in 1982 — 24 years ago — and the photos date from the same time period (1982-1983). So that’s how the spider looked then, not now.

Indeed, the spider managed to survive in excellent condition, and had obviously been taken care of extremely well also. For a fairly-detailed description of the spider's history, click on the "1933 KING KONG in November" link in my posting up.

The spider’s owner, Josh Berman, reponds to the remainder of your questions:
The overall skin was in good shape, as was the fur on the head, joints and leg tips — but most of the joints are exposed. The armature was still quite tight and poseable.

Unlike many of the other models which had to have muscles and other tissues built up, the "shape" of the spider and its armature are essentially the same — it merely had an outer coating of rubber and hair added on.

Also please remember, the spider was refleshed for THE BLACK SCORPION — the original 1933 skin was not black and hairy, but instead had a texture similar to a horny toad. Therefore, the outer flesh dates from 1957, not 1933, which accounts for the deterioration rate being different from the other models. But I assure you, it IS melting."
I hope that answers your questions.

Jeff Krispow
Retired LD/DVD Reviewer
http://www.laserrot.com
jeff@laserrot.com

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Ah, I see......now if I had actually read the accompanying text I would have known this from the get-go...sorry. In reality it isn't an original model from the spider pit sequence but a remnant...but still cool.
-Kevin M.

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Thanks for the elaboration. Makes sense.

Is there a shot of it from the back like that existing shot from the pit scene?
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Darren...

I have a few other negative strips that I scanned in over here, which are mostly from the KONG 50th Anniversary Birthday Celebration exhibit. I'll take a look through them and see if there are any rear shots — but I honestly don't recall seeing any. But then again, what I have scanned in here are only a few neg strips out of, what, maybe 25-30 total neg strips or so.

But I really doubt I'll find any... either here or over at Josh's. All of the photos I've ever seen were taken of "Paul" on display in an exhibit setting, which focused mainly on the front or side angle views (i.e. the "interesting stuff"). I just don't think he ever thought of taking a shot from the back. (Not that he ever had reason to, since he's got the real thing on display in his home.)

Still, I'll see what there is, but I really don't expect to find anything...

Jeff Krispow
Retired LD/DVD Reviewer
http://www.laserrot.com
jeff@laserrot.com

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What cool photos! It was also good to see a picture of the Ackermonster as well. Thanks a million for sharing. Take it for what you will... I first saw King Kong when my father was stationed on the Navy Base on Guam, I was only five and it was in 1970. I only remember three things about it, it was very brief, there was a large lizard chowing down on a sailor, and a close up of a tarantula's face- that face looked very similar to the Black Scorpion's without the drool. I spoke with a friend of mine who grew up in Los Angeles who swears up and down he saw it too. Maybe one day the missing scene will be found.
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