- Joined: April 2000
- Post Count: 4,316
Re: Disney Annimation
They cut Black Cauldron before release, even after the scenes excised had been inked and painted and the music scored. The amount of footage is said to have been as little as 2 minutes or as much as 12 minutes.
STOP THE MADNESS! STOP THE BUTCHERING AND ABANDONMENT OF TV SHOWS ON DVD!
My DVD List at DVD Aficionado, Now Featuring Blu-Ray
-
Patrick McCart
- Patrick J. McCart
-
- offline
- Joined: May 2001
- Location: Georgia, USA
- Post Count: 7,216
Re: Disney Annimation
Disney owns The Thief and the Cobbler and it needs a restored widescreen edition.
It's so hard to get a decent DVD of the bastardized version... you have to get an out of print Japanese DVD that has poor contrast, filtering, and is non-progressive. That's for the most altered Miramax cut. If you want the longer other bastardized cut (that is about 10 minutes longer), you have to go with a crappy P&S DVD from Australia (also out of print). Americans have to get a lousy $30 pan & scan DVD of the most altered cut. Only a Froot Loops freebie has a 5.1 soundtrack (still pan & scan). You can at least download an good quality DivX of the uncut workprint from eMule, but most people have to deal with 3rd generation VHS sourced DVD-R's from collectors. Red-headed stepchildren get treated better.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece
The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their
Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on
YouTube!
- Joined: September 2001
- Post Count: 255
Re: Disney Annimation
"It's so hard to get a decent DVD of the bastardized version"
You might be interested in reading about the preservation efforts one individual is making for this film.
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum...&threadid=4256
He just recently finished it.
"I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on my hard drive!"
My only P&S DVDs are Hooper and Remo Williams.
-
Patrick McCart
- Patrick J. McCart
-
- offline
- Joined: May 2001
- Location: Georgia, USA
- Post Count: 7,216
Re: Disney Annimation
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Eric_R_C
|
Yeah, I participated with him on the commentary.
I hesitate to say anything due to its nature, but I will say it's excellent and will at least allow people to see it properly until Disney ever decides to shell out a couple million for a restoration.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece
The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their
Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on
YouTube!
- Joined: February 2001
- Location: Livonia, MI USA
- Post Count: 5,476
Re: Disney Annimation
The video transfer and extras for "The Black Cauldron" leave a lot to be desired, but I thought the audio track sounded very good. It sounds like a straight re-purposing of a multi-channel mag track circa the mid 80s with minimal digital futzing. If they get around to re-mastering this title, I hope they resist the urge to "improve" the audio too much.
Regards,
Ken McAlinden
Livonia, MI USA
- Joined: April 2000
- Post Count: 4,316
Re: Disney Annimation
Unfortunately the films made between 1970 and 1988 don't get much love from within the animation industry, even within the Disney company. Especially not Cauldron (which I admit to never having seen).
STOP THE MADNESS! STOP THE BUTCHERING AND ABANDONMENT OF TV SHOWS ON DVD!
My DVD List at DVD Aficionado, Now Featuring Blu-Ray
- Joined: May 2008
- Location: The Netherlands
- Post Count: 717
Re: Disney Annimation
I'd love to have a special edition of these three films. The Black Cauldron should be worth it for the behind-the-scenes story alone. But since the film is really unpopular with Disney, I'd doubt it. If you really want a good version of TBC, you should buy the French R2. It's remastered and anamorphic.
I absolutely love The Hunchback of Notre Dame, one of my favorite Disney pictures. But again, it isn't a favorite of Disney's. And with a packed laserdisc out, they don't even need to produce new material. Seeing that they didn't even took all the material that was on the laserdisc, and put in on the first dvd, there was definitely a missed opportunity. At least you guys got an audio commentary.
I thought that Hercules was a popular film, that did good business? I don't understand why this hasn't gotten a proper special edition. But we'll probably have to wait for the Blu-Ray to come. If they release that non-anamorphically, they'll be out of their minds.
Never go out with anyone who thinks Fellini is a type of cheese
My Blu-Ray/DVD Collection
