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At first when this happened, I assumed that V had somehow managed to break into the prison facility to rescue Evey. The shadowy figure shown prior to that did not look or sound like V, at least to me.

Aside from the mask issue that people have already mentioned, my nitpick would have to involve the letters Valerie wrote while she and V were in prison. How did those survive? I mean, they show V emerging all burned with the prison in flames. A few rolls of toilet paper would in all likelihood have been destroyed.

since V created and triggered the bomb himself, he was probably smart enough to arrange for the safety of the documents. like maybe throw it out the window first, or plant it outside the cell if he was ever taken out.

I'm sure V smuggled it out the same way everyone smuggles things in prison: his bum.

That's if the story is actually real.. The film is about ideals.

I don't think it was quite as stark a difference as that. I mean, we do know that there was rationing and control of supplies - there was one scene where they were discussing water coupons, for instance. The food they have available is seriously limited - Evey makes the comment about having not had real butter before. Driving cars - can't think of any scenes off the top of my head, but its no big deal. And as for watching big-screen TVs - I imagine those are probably pretty cheap and easy to get. For a start, it's 15 years down the track, so the cost will have come down just naturally. But more significantly, with a government-controlled channel pumping out propaganda, I wouldn't be surprised if the goverment even subsidised the TVs to make it easier to get the screens into more houses and make the propaganda more widespread.
Perhaps it's not quite as total as it was in the book (I don't know, I haven't read it), but it's still not a nice place to live.

Now, a question of my own: what is with the rose that he leaves with the body? I mean, I get that it is probably a connection with Valerie, but why did the doctor see the rose and know that it was him that was the person behind the deaths. That wasn't explained - as far as I could see.
The only thing I can think of is that, learning in this thread that in the book it's not clear even whether V is male or female, it might make sense if V was actually Valerie, passing off her story as though it was told to her. I don't know. But as far as I can see in the film, accepting that V is male, I don't know why the doctor connected a rose with whoever V is.

Finally, is it just me, or did the guy who was the Voice of England (I forget the character's name) sound an awful lot like Michael Gambon. It wasn't him, didn't look like him, but every time he opened his mouth it was disorienting, sipply because I expect that voice to be coming out of a different face.

Any word on when this is coming to DVD?

I remember noticing this in the movie as well. I'm not sure if this is a book spoiler but just in case...


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It would be great if they actually filmed this scene and included it on the DVD because it clears a lot of things up.

Maybe November 5th?

That would be perfect!

Thanks for the information, Brian. That does clear a lot up - including my other question that I wondered about but didn't ask - namely how V started the explosion in the prison.

May be coming a little late to the party, I saw this a couple weeks ago and enjoyed it thoroughly.

I do have a question about elements of the ending, however, and I'll use the spoilerr box just in case (though not necessary in an official "discussion" thread?)


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Does the comic/novel make this any more clear, or is the whole event a change from the graphic novel?

Paul,

Creddy and Sutter had more than "harsh words", Creedy was fast falling out favor, a typically fatal path in a totalitarian regime. Add the fact that Creedy as a high ranking official, had ambitions of his own, and that scene becomes one of the more logical conclusions of their careers.

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H

V for Vendetta regular vs. IMAX V for VENDETTA . WOW!!! What a difference!!!

I know there is already a discussion thread of this movie but I think this very specific subject thread should have its own discussion. THANK YOU ADMINISTRATORS for this.

I just finished watching this great movie at an Imax theater in Tampa, Florida. I had originally seen this movie several weeks ago in a conventional movie theater in Miami, Fla.

After seeing the movie the first time, I knew that I wanted to see it again. It came to my attention that it was also playing in an Imax theater.

Call me crazy or eccentric, but I drove to Tampa and back on the same day just to see this movie. Tampa is 300 miles away from Miami. Round trip total was 600 miles.

TRIP WAS SO WORTH IT.

The movie was shown in its original aspect ratio. But everything is so much larger and so stunningly clear.

And before I continue, I would just like to say that the regular theatrical presentation of this film in Miami was fine. I did not have complaints about it at the time. It was properly focused and the color seemed good at the time.

But when you compare it to the Imax presentation, the difference was TREMENDOUS. The amount of detail on the screen was amazing. Stuff that you just can't see in the in the regular film just jumped out. This is the first time that I have ever noticed the size of actors eye pupils. I don't remember ever noticing that in any movie that I have seen in the theater. The evil chancellor had these huge pupils that I never noticed in the regular showing. This detail was evident in Natalie Portman's eyes and the eyes of the other actors as well.

That is all the actors except V. I was expecting to see at least a faint detail of his eyes. But instead, I saw that his mask, in the location of where the eyes are, has has this very fine mesh black screen. I am sure the actor can see out but one can't see in. This very fine black mesh screen was most definitely not seen in the regular showing.

In the several of still shots of V, I saw there was the MASK had one long hair strand that was out of place. THere is no way in hell you can see that in the theatrical presentation.

I also don't remember ever seeing so much detail in actors faces and being able to count the individual pores in their faces. Amazing.

THUMBS WAY up on the IMAX presentation of this film. Guys and girls please feel free to comment. Has anyone seen V for Vendetta in both formats?

Thank you.

Carlos

Heh, I saw that a couple of times during the movie. And it was NOT an Imax screen. I think the Miami presentation wasn't as good as you thought it was - or maybe you need to check your lens prescription! :p

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Probably a good time to resurrect this thread, with the movie hitting the market yesterday.

I missed it in theatres and have been anxiously awaiting the DVD. Almost bought it without seeing it first (I've done that a few times on a whim), but chose to rent it instead. I will have to say that this is definitely not your typical "comic book" character.

I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it started out a bit slow, but built steem as the the story moved along. I was a bit worried after the 300 ways to use words that begin with "V" bit, but luckily the rest of the film was not near as cheesy. It did hurt the balance of the film a bit imo.

After seeing the film, I really don't know what all the hupla was about (I heard that it took several liberties that would be hard to swallow). I didn't see anything that remotely jolted me.

Through all of this discussion, I have seen very little about the brilliance of the dagger fighting action sequences, which surprises me, because they are so well done. V is one rear kicking motha brotha. I for one completely bought into him trying to overthrow a corrupt government, while at the same time executing a madman's revenge on those who hurt him. I was ready for him to take every one of those sorry suckers out, and enjoyed watching him dispose of them. I also thought there was a kindness in the way he disposed of the female Doctor, almost a mutual respect, another thing I like about the film, and another thing that proves that this madman did have an odd kindness about him, which makes you buy into him even more (sorry for the long run-on sentence.

Hopefully now that the movie is out on DVD, we can get some good discussion going again. More to come later. I'll give it my official rating after a second viewing tonight

JC

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This is a great film that only gets better in retrospect. Hugo Weaving did a tremendous job as V and the managed to credibly blend action and ideas. I'm looking forward to having the time to sit and watch this one again!

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Yep, this one's on my "must rent" list this week. Like Josh, I missed this in theaters. Wish I hadn't.

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Well, I'm about to take in a second viewing. Surprised after reading through the older posts that there isn't more discussion on this one. More to come later.

JC

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Moore has stated that he did not approve of the changes to his story:

http://www.mtv.com/shared/movies/int...e_alan_060315/

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I don't get it why he is angry!

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I really like the film and the novel, but I understand his frustration. He had a great quote somewhere about how he feels about the film (I cannot repeat it here, as it crosses a board rule). In short, enough of it was fundamentally changed (in his mind) to reflect current events by people without the wherewithal to come up with their own story - his story is anarchy vs. fascism. Not freedom vs. fascism (which better represents the film). I do believe he makes a tempest in a teapot, but it's his baby. I understand his consternation.

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This one is next on my Netflix queue...can't wait to see it.

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I'm reading V For Vendetta right now, and I like it so far. I'll check out the movie later.

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Wow.

What a refreshing surprise. A smart, exciting, well acted, well written, terrific piece of entertainment. Sorry I missed it in theaters.

Can't wait to see it again!
3/4 out of 4

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Are you allowed to give 3/4 of a star? I thought you could only award full and half-stars.

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Having just watched it again the other night on DVD (and finding that it holds up just as well now as it did in theaters), I disagree. I like the film on it's own terms. But I can see how a creative voice would be appalled that his work was being twisted into something ancillary, even contrary to the message of the original work. I think I would resent very much my characters and my universe being twisted to broadcast messages that neither I nor the original work suscribed to.

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By the way, this is an A-list movie. I'm wondering why the brothers didn't direct it themselves and gave it away. You don't give away your “A” material! Also it would have benefited from more publicity and more people seeing it if they had directed it

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Sure you can. But if it's easier for you, how about a 9 out of 10?

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Was just reading through this thread. What is great about this movie, like it or hate it, is that it can create discussion. Not just the political stuff (which to me seems a minor part of the movie), but the character motivations and deeper themes.

Some thoughts;

First, I 've never read the novel. It was one of those I'd always meant to but never got around to it. Without any spoilers I knew V was the one torturing Evey. You can see his burnt face behind the ski-mask when he grabs her by the gate. Although I initially thought his intention was to just find out if she would betray him if caught. But then he kept her after the first interview and I wasn't sure why until he explained it.

Which leads me to wonder about something. Did he in fact "free" her or did he program her to his way of thinking? Because it seems as much that he programmed her to pull the lever at the end. Maybe a little bit of Helsinki Syndrome from his earlier kidnapping of her too. He made her sympathetic to him and in awe of him and eventually into him. I wonder if the domino that didn't fall into place was representative of the inspector, not Evey. V had no way of knowing what the inspectors' ultimate reactions would be, but he could be sure Evey wanted the same thing he did at that point.

I notived the loudspeaker poles around the city also had video cameras on them. Which is how they were able to identify Evey initially. And those were probably just the visible ones. So it made sense to me that V would mail out all those masks. A psychological trick to get people who are used to being afraid to be seen doing something wrong to do something wrong. It was a cinematic thing as well, but with many of the things V did for the public it was designed to elicit a specific response. Again he was programming (orchestrating) not just events but people as well. When they were all wearing the mask they were all united with each other in a way Sutler could only make claims to but never achieve.

I hope (and predict) for an extended version of the movie someday. It would be nice if they added in about how Larkhill was destroyed and some other things that could use a little more fleshing out.

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After reading through the posts, I noticed that some of you had an issue with the masks being shipped out to the city.

It really didn't bother me. By looking at the guys pad, he has obviously found a way to acquire some wealth. Not sure how, but he seems plenty crafty enough to come up with the means to supply the city with outfits. I also thought it was a nice touch at the end of the film, having all the people come out wearing there "V" costumes.

The film had a slight artsy quality to it, but not too much as in some films. Well done imo

JC

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I just finished watching the film's meager extras and I have to take issue with TPTB's constant description of V as a 'terrorist' (especially Joel Silver). V doesn't in any way fit the traditional description of terrorist for he goes out of his way to safeguard innocent lives. He limits his targets to those who work for the government or aid it's agenda. He blows up the Old Bailey at night when it is empty and tells people ahead of time that he plans on blowing up Parliament. Not exactly what I think of when I think 'terrorist'.