The New World: Various DVD Versions?

I've heard that the initial DVD release will be the US cut, which was shortened by the director following the film's original release. However, I've also heard that Malick is working on a much longer DVD presentation for release sometime down the line. Just curious if anyone has additional information...

CLD

You've heard everything we have. The DVD of the theatrical cut has been announced for early May, and will feature trailers and a making-of featurette; no commentary!

An extended version is expected later in the year and will not feature the theatrical cut, so a double-dip wouldn't be uncalled for if you as big a fan of the film as I am.

Rumor is the extended edition runs anything from twenty minutes longer (Malick's pre-release cut shown briefly in December) to an hour longer. It is known he filmed enough material for a five-hour film, like The Thin Red Line in 1998. I wish there was more specific info out there right now...

Cheers!

I wouldn't expect a Malick commentary. He didn't even appear in HBO First Look on the film.

The New World is something I will watch, but I wish he would work on a longer version of The Thin Red Line.

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http://www.micasamm.com/newsite/

If you look here under the current projects listing...

"The New World (Extended Version)"

Beautiful.

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Yes, excellent.

From what I've been following, this is not simply like the longer cut that was 155 min. That featured more nature shots, a bit more dialogue here and there, etc. This is supposed to be an extensive reworking of the film (3 hours!) with more character bits. Which is exactly what this film was lacking, imo. More character moments would elevate this from a film I immensely repect to a film I absolutely LOVE.

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Yeah, the 2005 premiere cut already had a finished soundtrack, so a new 5.1 track doesn't make any sense. This must be a newly-minted draft of the film with more scenes beyond the ones included in the 150-minute version.

Now that I'm actually thinking about it... didn't this DVD come out in May? And isn't this New Line Cinema? Perhaps they are following the December-May-November release paradigm that The Lord of the Rings trilogy used...

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Interesting to see Malick is playing at the Director's Cut game. Maybe he'll do an extended version of the Thin Red Line.

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According to the producer in interviews that were published last December, the intention all along was for Malick to do a 3-hour+ version expressly for the DVD market, knowing it wouldn't play theatrically. It may even be longer than 3-hours!

I'm looking forward to it, this is great news!

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I'm sorry to say that it was reported about a month ago now that the new
DVD version is ONLY going to be the 150-min. cut released in early
December of last year. I hope they change their minds and release a full
three-hour or ten-hour cut, but it doesn't appear that will happen.

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Where was this "reported"? If the extended DVD is only going to be the 150-minute cut, why would Mallick be actively involved in remixing the film since the 150-minute cut already has a finished multi-channel sound mix?

Vincent

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My thoughts exactly Vincent. If you go back to the interviews that came out last December, the producer mentioned -- at great length as well -- that there was a 3+ hour version that would eventually land on DVD, that Malick knew it and was already preparing it. Wasn't a pipe dream -- it definitely sounded like it was well under way.

I'd like to see these "reports" only the 150 min. version was coming to DVD as well. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go to the trouble of making an Extended version for 15 minutes when there were hours available.

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They were on several DVD sites. I can't remember which ones off hand, but
I'm sure somebody could do some searches. DVDDavis or DigitalBits may have
had a quote from another site, etc. I pray it's wrong, because I'd love a three
hour cut.

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Since you're the one who reported this "information" in this thread, I'd say it's your responsibility to "do some searches" for the actual links, not any of ours.

As it stands, the actual, factual information linked in this thread indicates that Mallick is actively involved in remixing his "director's cut" of THE NEW WORLD, and seeing as how the 150-minute cut already had a completed multi-channel sound mix, it doesn't make much sense for him to be working on a remix of that version, now does it?

Vincent

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Although a revised cut would be great, it is quite possible that the pre-exisiting longer cut is being remixed by mi-casa..why you ask?..because thats what they do, remix theatrical soundtracks (and yes, brand new film's as well as old one's) to enhance them for the home environment - it's something that mi casa has done for many new line titles (and other studio's) and there's no reason why TNW should be any different.

M

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The 150 min. cut is not a director's cut. Malick wasn't done editing to make the LA/NY release date, so instead of delaying, he gave them what he had at that time, which was 150 minutes. He was in the process of whittling the movie down to its eventual 135. This was also what was sent out on the screeners, unfortunately.

Here's the link: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/3...tem_id=3810483

Regards,
Nathan

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Complete thread derailment, sorry. Vincent_P, correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding has always been that you are Vincent Pereira (of Kevin Smith films fame); if true, I noticed that your HTF profile lists your birthday as Nov. 30th, but your bio page at imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0673229/) lists it as March 11th. I just thought you might wanna know. Looking back over this post, I feel vaguely stupid and stalkerish, but I'll hit "Submit Reply" anyway...back to your regular programming, folks...

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That's weird, 'cause my birthday is March 11. I'll have to check my profile here and change it. Thanks for pointing that out, I have no idea how that happened... UPDATE- Just checked my profile, and I didn't have my birthday listed at all. I'm thinking maybe you checked Vincent-P's profile and got the Nov. 30th date from there.

Back on topic, good point, Marc- I hadn't thought about the theatrical mix being tweaked for home video which often does happen, but correct me if I'm wrong, I thought in those cases there really isn't a whole lot of actual "remixing" done- rather, the existing mix is tweaked so it will sound the same way in a smaller home environment as it would sound in a big movie theater. It seems odd to me that Mallick would be on hand for such a "tweaking" session alone, and given how the 150-minute cut was literally an unfinished film rushed to theaters for a limited time in order to qualify for awards season, I don't see how Mallick would want to release that to home video. Since the theatrical release of THE NEW WORLD, we've been hearing that Mallick intended to release a much longer cut, and given these reports of a remix happening of THE NEW WORLD "Director's Cut", I have to think that that's indeed what this is, and NOT the 150-minute Oscar-qualifying release version.

Vincent

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What's the deal with all this Vincent-P and Vincent_P crap; how's a guy ever supposed to know who he's talking to?!

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No, my profile doesn't list my birthday, which is July 13th anyway.

EDIT: Actually, if you click on my public profile, it does say Nov. 30, which is weird because my user CP says I haven't listed my birthdate. Could Nov. 30 be a default? I guess I'll have to fix it.
BTW, MY IMDB does list my correct birthdate also. http://imdb.com/name/nm1127158/

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Simple, I'm Vincent UNDERSCORE P, the other guy is Vincent DASH P. A "DASH" is CLEARLY inferior to an "UNDERSCORE" (just like HD-DVD is inferior to Blu-Ray)

Vincent (UNDERSCORE P, for Pereira. Yes, I have Portuguese blood in me, so sue me)...

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Hey! You talkin' trash about the dash? Don't make me cut you...

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Based on reading imdb 'New World' message board posts, it appears as if the
150-min. cut will be a NEW or different cut than the one released on early
December. Still, I don't see a three hour version coming out anytime soon.

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Happy early birthday from a fellow Cancerian!

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I'd hardly take IMDB messsage boards as a reliable source for information myself

Vincent

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There's an Italian 2-DVD set including the 135 minute cut and the 150 cut.

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It'll be an sextuple dip with an additional 20 minutes added, and a random 5 minutes deleted, with each successive dip. Fans will be forced to buy every edition in order to see all the footage. The very last edition will include all the footage, but only 10% of the extras, which will come out as a New World 'Extras only' release 8 months later... which will be on the market for three months before someone discovers that it only contains 97% of the extras.

David

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Good to know, but the $50 price tag (once you factor in shipping, which costs as much as the DVD itself) is enough for me to wait until New Line formally announces the 3-hour version.

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I'm so glad to know about this Italian DVD, I'm ordering it immediately. I think the 150 minute version of The New World is one of the most brilliant films I've ever seen, while the 135 minute version feels like "The New World for Dummies," with everything that was beautiful, vague and poetic made more literal through alternate voiceover and expositional dialogue.

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http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ended-cut.html