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Actually, your exact quote was this:
"I'll stick with the sound version of Ben Hur since it's my all time favorite and I don't expect the warm up version to do much. With silent films they are incomplete and don't really count because you need the sound."
I don't think my comments were taking anything out of context. |
You certainly
are taking what I said out of context. Because what we were talking about in that BEN-HUR discussion was regarding my opinion of
remakes, specifically. I always say I don't think we need more of these 21st century remakes of older films. Then you come in with your usual speech about how "remakes have been here forever, since the silent era of film, and are nothing new " (like I don't already know that). Then I give my opinion that I could understand silent films being re-made in the 30s, 40s, or 50s for benefit of the "sound" era, and when Hollywood still knew how to make them good. When I called the silent BEN-HUR a "warm up," it was a tongue in cheek jab at you during one of our debates, because I love the 1959 sound version very much.
I will say once more that, personally speaking, I prefer sound films to silent. Still, this hasn't kept me from watching, liking, or owning several non-talkies.
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| But why are the shorts any different from a feature length film? Are you an Academy Awards voter or something? |
I'm sorry it bothers you that I'm only tracking feature films, but it's only my personal choice. There are no rules. I am not tracking short subjects.
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| Again, this here comes to my opinion that you (rightfully) don't care too much about this history of film. |
You are entitled to believe whatever you choose. I know what I'm interested in and what I care about; you don't. You may have whatever opinion you wish, but it won't change my facts.
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| You certainly would count these films whenever you are interested in them like when they're horror movies (Frankenstein/Dr. Jekyll). |
I don't know what you're talking about. I certainly "count" silent 'features' as 'feature films'...
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| You say I'm nuts for watching these shorts or you say I do it because I want my total number to be higher, which is just B.S. |
I don't know where I ever said you were "nuts" for watching these shorts. There's nothing wrong with having an interest in them and a desire to watch them. But I have toyed with you in some of our more jocular moments about wanting to increase your annual tally of films. I believe you are genuinely interested in films of all eras and genres, but I also believe you enjoy displaying your wide array of "conquests".
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| Silent films have been forgotten by the whole but these early days are even more rare when it comes to finding fans. People might know Chaplin and Keaton but they don't know the people who influenced them. Do they need to know? No but some people want to know the entire history of film and not just what happened 50 years after it started. When sound films came into play movies were already a good 40 years old. That's 40 years of films that people are sadly overlooking because they don't like silents. Those who hate B&W are REALLY missing decades of films. Those who won't watch anything made before 1980 are missing nearly 100 years of cinema. We could also say (like me) those who refuse to watch foreign films are missing out on decades worth of cinema. |
To each his own, Mike. Personally, I'll watch silents, talkies, golden age, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90,s 00s, black and white, color, 3-D, foreign, etc... but I'm not ashamed to admit that I have certain "preferences". Silent films are not my priority, nor are most musicals or westerns or war films. It doesn't mean I will never watch these types of films; it just means that I have my preferences. Life is way too short. But I thank you for pushing me to see PATHS OF GLORY, because it was a great film I would otherwise have missed.
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| That's the point of watching everything you can get your hands on. To learn. How many people want to learn these days? Not many. |
Learning and knowledge comes with the territory, but I don't specifically watch films to "learn" or become a walking film encyclopedia (though this turns out to become the natural progression when one watches many movies); I watch films to be entertained. To me, it seems you're so busy watching everything and "learning" that you're not relishing the movies themselves.
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| And I really don't think you're watching these "shorts". Or, whenever I asked if you watched one you always say no. |
I could find films you haven't watched, and you could do likewise with me. It doesn't mean anything, and we've covered this ground before. Live and let live, and that's all there is to it, I say. We're just beginning a new year here, tracking our films. It's still early enough to avoid this silly back and forth stuff. Let's not turn this thread into the "Mike and Joe Revue" like last year.