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Kevin M
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Director's cut? I thought the theatrical release was the "director's cut".
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And didn't he already record a great commentary for the first release?
(He did)
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The magician longs to see
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Patrick McCart
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I'll buy this. Not a big deal in terms of price since I got the original DVD for $5.
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| A 1998 film in the Great Movies list, is this a record? |
A few months ago he added the 1999 film "The Terrorist" to the "Great Movies" list, so it's not quite the newest film on his list.
I still have yet to see the film, so I'm thinking that I'll spend $5 for the old release (which I've heard still looks quite good) and see if I want to pay the extra money for a "Special Edition."
Movies I would love to see get a (good, region 1) DVD release...
The African Queen, The Big Parade, The Crowd, The Exterminating Angel, Greed, Limite, Show People, The Wind, Wings, the films of Max Ophuls, the films of Satyajit Ray
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There is definitely an Ebert commentary on the existing disc. It makes you wonder if he recorded an all-new commentary or if they pulled a "Sling Blade" and just had him record new comments for the added scenes.
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Patrick McCart
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I think the film is excellent, but it really does feel like stuff was cut out to shorten the film.
Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece
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I also have to wonder if this is truly something that Proyas wanted to do or if New Line is just following the current trend of releasing longer versions of films with little regard as to whether or not longer means better. I think the film plays brilliantly the way it is. I do agree that while the old transfer is acceptable it certainly isn't stunning compared to modern transfers. The opening scene alone has macroblocking all over the place.
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I've read that a lot of fans actually go to the effort of muting VO at the beginning every time they watch it, which strikes me as pretty absurd. I think there's a case to be made that this should be done the first time someone watches the movie, but what's the point of muting the VO on your second, third, fourth viewing, etc.? I'm sure these viewers haven't completely forgotten the events of the movie as a whole, so why make the effort to mute out a "spoiler"? Also, you aren't just muting the VO, you're muting the score, too. The whole thing just strikes me as sort of ridiculous.
Don't you ever, EVER compare me to "Family Guy," you hear me Kyle? Compare me to "Family Guy" again and so help me, I will kill you where you stand!
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Yes, they might as well be sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "la la la" until it's over.
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I certainly wouldn't call someone wanting to mute the VO as ridiculous, any more than I would call someone who transferred their original Star Wars Trilogy LDs onto DVD rather than watching the Special Edition DVDs. It's about trying to maintain the original intent or best experience of the movie.
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The "Star Wars" comparison is completely inappropriate from my point of view. I would think someone that would preserve the original theatrical versions of the "Star Wars" films (which are compromised versions of the director's intent) would also insist upon watching "Dark City" exactly the way it originally screened, with the original VO.
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Like I said, I understand doing it for the first time (and even on every subsequent viewing if that is your preference) but I just think it's absurd to mute it if you're familiar with the VO. I am, I've seen the movie with the VO every time I've watched it, and even if I were to mute it I would still be thinking "this is where the VO explains a big part of the story". The thought of someone sitting there pretending that they don't know what is being said in the VO is what I found ridiculous. I personally hope that the Director's Cut omits the VO (which I think is a pretty safe assumption) and I have no opposition to the removal of the VO from the theatrical version on a personal, case-by-case basis, I just see it as something illogical in any case other than a first viewing.
Don't you ever, EVER compare me to "Family Guy," you hear me Kyle? Compare me to "Family Guy" again and so help me, I will kill you where you stand!
Do you have any idea what it's like? Everywhere I go: "Hey Cartman you must like 'Family Guy,' right?" "Hey, your sense of humor reminds me of 'Family...
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