The Complete "The Lord of the Rings: score - with 5.1 DVD

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9/24/05 at 7:27pm

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http://www.soundtrack.net/news/article/?id=660

Coming out November 22. Three CDs for the complete 180 minute score, plus a fourth disc with the complete score in 5.1.

Incredible.

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9/25/05 at 5:18am

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I wonder how they're going to squeeze the 'complete score in 5.1' onto one single disc ? This is actually quite disappointing news as they had originally promised they whole thing on Dvd-A.For the sheer volume of music involved it would have made more sense.

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9/25/05 at 6:43am

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Well I am interested, any idea on price?

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9/25/05 at 7:15am

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I wonder how they're going to squeeze the 'complete score in 5.1' onto one single disc ?

The 4th disc is a DVD. Considering the original film was put on one DVD with a DD 5.1 track, it would be child's play to put the score by itself (with no movie) on a single disc, if the format is just DD.

But the actual format info is not yet available. It's coming from the Warner group, so DVD-A is a possibility. Would a DVD-A rendition of the score fit in the space formally occupied by the film itself??

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9/25/05 at 7:32am

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The score will probably be in DTS as well as DD 5.1 on the DVD I think. There will be plenty of space for it.

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9/25/05 at 10:29am

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The score will probably be in DTS...

I woudn't count on it; again, it's coming from the Warner group which is not big on DTS.

However, I would be happy to be wrong...

I just hate these announcements that leave out details.

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9/25/05 at 11:46pm

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A frustratingly detail-poor article/press release re what exactly is on that fourth disc: is it high rez or not? If so, what are the bit and sampling rates?

"5.1 Surround Sound in DVD format" is the kind of language that has started to populate the music landscape thanks to DualDisc. Until I see specs, I'll unfortunately have to assume that this is a lossy, Dolby Digital presentation of the score not high resolution.

"The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Complete Recordings" marks the first edition of the three complete recording releases of the film trilogy . . .

This intimates that there are going to be "Compete Recordings" releases for Two Towers and RotK as well. As much time as has transpired since the original tease of DVD-As of the scores (or at least Fellowship), one would think they could just release all three at the same time.

Now I must wonder if they'll do a three-pack of just the fourth discs from all three releases only after the TT "Complete" streets, if that ever even happens.

Warner is largely not supporting DVD-A anymore. It would be very curious if they're now planning to pop up and release DVD-A versions of complete score recordings, years after they apparently scrapped original plans to do so.

Color me interested but skeptical,
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9/26/05 at 12:18am

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Well, Space is not an issue for DVD-Audio. Several DVD-Audios contain more than 180 min of music in 5.1, e.g. Bach Mattäuspassion (Harnoncourt, Teldec), Beethoven String Quartets op 18(Auryn Quartet, Tacet). So, yes, it would fit. It is rather a question of if they WANT to.

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9/26/05 at 11:59am

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I'm quite looking forward to complete details. If this is to street on 11/22 then we should be seening something definitive very soon. I would've preffered a big box with all three complete scores (12 discs) though.

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9/26/05 at 10:14pm

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This intimates that there are going to be "Compete Recordings" releases for Two Towers and RotK as well. As much time as has transpired since the original tease of DVD-As of the scores (or at least Fellowship), one would think they could just release all three at the same time.

Speculation is that they thought they could increase sales by releasing the complete scores in three parts rather than one big super-expensive 12-disc box set.

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9/27/05 at 1:00am

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I think it's way late for that strategy if that's what they're thinking (and it probably is). If it takes HALF as long for the "Complete" TT to street as it's taken for us to move from the DVD-A news to this release, we'll see that "Complete" TT sometime in 2007.

They should release the big azz box and the three individual releases all at the same time.

-p

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9/27/05 at 5:52pm

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I agree shame on them... Give the whole thing at once!!! All of it in dvd format...... Forget the cd stuff... You can already get that..... Lets have the DD 5.1 complete trilogy.......NOW

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9/28/05 at 8:48am

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Forget the cd stuff... You can already get that.....

Not everything. The CDs are a subset of the whole score.

You could also say that you can get the score in 5.1 on the DVDs. Granted, there are actors talking over it, but it is there.

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9/29/05 at 8:27am

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Not everything. The CDs are a subset of the whole score.

I know there are two cd versions that are out.. the regular and limited edition.. the leather bound ones... I know they say the leather bound cd versions are the complete scores...

so they say...lol...

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9/29/05 at 10:43am

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I know they say the leather bound cd versions are the complete scores...

No they don't. The TTT leatherbound edition has a track from Fellowship EE, but other than that I don't think any of them have more music (and none of them claim to be the complete score).

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9/29/05 at 1:46pm

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I stand corrected..... Oh well... i would still like to have them all at once thou......

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9/29/05 at 2:25pm

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This still isn't showing up on Amazon

Anyone have any other links, for more details, cover, tracklisting, etc?

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10/3/05 at 11:29am

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Bill H.'s comments today about the release don't reveal much more needed detail. There's a liner notes comment though:

Other extras will include artwork and a booklet of liner notes entitled "The Music of The Lord of the Rings Films - Part I: The Fellowship of the Ring," written by Doug Adams.

-p

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10/3/05 at 12:30pm

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I don't suppose the fourth disc (DVD) will be released separately, huh? That's too bad.

HERE'S the press release from Reprise. Sounds like its only going to be released with all four discs packaged together.

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10/3/05 at 3:56pm

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great news indeed

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10/4/05 at 4:14am

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I'm guessing that if this 4-disc set does not sell well, we will never see the complete collection of recordings from the other two movies. While I would prefer a complete 9-disc set (as other internet sites had noted), I'll take whatever they release. Chopping up 180 minutes of soundtrack down to 74 minutes to fit on one CD is terrible. John Williams always does this with Star Wars soundtracks. I hate that about him.

Does anyone know who is pre-ordering it yet? I checked Amazon and no dice. Post the best price here!

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10/4/05 at 9:16am

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John Williams always does this with Star Wars soundtracks. I hate that about him.

Well, my 2CD soundtracks for each of the original movies must be a figment of my imagination.

Really, I think this is a record company thing, since full score releases are rare. I think they think that we want just the "greatest hits" version of the score, since they all squeeze scores on one CD, no matter how long the movie was.

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10/4/05 at 10:03am

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Well, my 2CD soundtracks for each of the original movies must be a figment of my imagination.

Nor are they a figment of mine!

It's just that other than the Special Edition soundtracks and the missed-our-point "Ultimate" edition of Phantom Menace, all the Star Wars soundtracks are butchered, out of order, edited, etc. from their original composition. Ah, well...

I wish all soundtracks were complete like this LOTR:FOTR set may be. I can dream, can't I?

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10/4/05 at 10:14pm

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It's just that other than the Special Edition soundtracks and the missed-our-point "Ultimate" edition of Phantom Menace

I own all of those, and the Ultimate Edition of Phantom Menace. What do you mean by "missed-our-point?"

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10/5/05 at 4:05am

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I own all of those, and the Ultimate Edition of Phantom Menace. What do you mean by "missed-our-point?"

The fans didn't want an exact copy of the music in Phantom Menace, complete with the loops, and repeats, and cuts done in the movie to maintain musical continuity.

We wanted the complete score, as recorded FOR the film.

The loops and edits in the film were mostly due to Lucas making last minute changes after the music was completed. Add 5 seconds to a scene and you have to add 5 seconds to the music that went with it.

I guess one can never be completely satisfied.

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10/5/05 at 6:06am

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Ok, that's what I figured you meant. I just wanted to make sure.... so one more like the single disc release, but with the complete score, right? Oh, and I am all over this Fellowship score when it comes out.

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10/5/05 at 1:45pm

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Just heard from Bill Bentley at WB that the release has been delayed until Dec. 13 and technical issues (i.e. audio format) for the content on the DVD disc are being decided now.

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10/5/05 at 2:05pm

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Sigh. I don't know why I'm surprised by this kind of nonsense anymore: why do a press release if you don't have your shit together, especially about something as fundamental as the audio format?

-p

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10/5/05 at 2:43pm

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Hopefully the delay means they're doing it right. I doubt they'd mess up the LotR franchise. So hopefully the 5.1 disc will be a DVD-A.

On a related note, I saw A History of Violence last night. Howard Shore scored this as well. I guess he just had to squeeze it in, working on King Kong at the same time, or whatever, but the end titles suite sounds like a FotR outtake!

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10/5/05 at 3:21pm

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Hopefully the delay means they're doing it right. I doubt they'd mess up the LotR franchise. So hopefully the 5.1 disc will be a DVD-A.

DVD-A AND regular DVD 5.1 for those of us who do not have DVD-A yet.

Dan Szwarc
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