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Whoops again. I only understand how radiation works, not cigarettes. So I half-paid attention during that hour of discussion. I just remember an average of 3 REM per year for smokers, whereas we normally go 10-30 mrem a month from where we worked.
I'll gladly defer to others who understand nicotine better than I.
Long story short, you have a much greater risk of cancer (which is the risk of radiation as well, be it ground radiated, sun, or whatever) based on smoking that you do any other choice activity (except maybe laying out EVERY day). That stuck with me...the 3 REM.
Take care,
Chuck
Hey buddy...did you just see a real bright light?
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what I want to know is if he is really a vegetarian, how come he is so unhealthy/fat looking these days?
\"and no one seems to understand the glory of guitar, when out of tune, the off timing, the singers who can't sing, - the beauty of flaw!\"
"I apologize if there is anyone in this room I have not offended" - Brahms
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vegetarians aren't necessarily health nuts / skinny. there's no meat in doughnuts, chocolate, ice cream, pie, soda, pasta, cheese...etc. it amazes me that people cannot disconnect vegetarian from healthy. they are not synonomous.
kevin t
religion is the opiate of the masses
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My grandmother has lung cancer. She doesn't smoke. My grandfather was a heavy smoker for many decades and died of lung cancer 25 years ago. Coincidence?
My close friend immigrated to Canada with her parents and her brother thirty years ago. They didn't pass the medical examination because the doctors thought she and her brother had tuberculosis (their lungs showed up as pitch black in x-rays). Wisely, her mother forced the father to stop smoking indoors (he was a heavy smoker too) and 3 months later they were allowed to enter Canada with clear lungs. Coincidence?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that smoke is bad for you.
Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
Gamesh...
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I'm not nice...people just make that assumption of me.
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| vegetarians aren't necessarily health nuts / skinny. there's no meat in doughnuts, chocolate, ice cream, pie, soda, pasta, cheese...etc. it amazes me that people cannot disconnect vegetarian from healthy. they are not synonymous. |
But isn't one of the main benefits told of being a vegetarian the health benefit? I know several real vegetarians and they seem pretty healthy. My point was the Toby doesn't seem like a real vegetarian. But who knows, it's all speculation anyway. I realize that people can get the calories from crap food. Would you call someone that just eats doughnuts, coffee and cigarettes a vegetarian? I guess technically they are. I admire real vegetarians for their conviction, not the ones that say they are for fashions sake. I on the other hand am a meatatarian, give me a steak and a potato and I'm all set.
\"and no one seems to understand the glory of guitar, when out of tune, the off timing, the singers who can't sing, - the beauty of flaw!\"
"I apologize if there is anyone in this room I have not offended" - Brahms
My Band - The Bailout Plan
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I guess with a multi-million dollar contract and a top trainer and nutritionist to get your ass in shape, I see why he would let him self go.
But that can't be too good for the heart. He just turned 30, and the ups and downs of losing and gaining weight can take it's toll.
I could only imagine what kind of toll Christian Bale's health and body has gone through.
I'm not nice...people just make that assumption of me.
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Can one of the HTF moderators change my name to Misses O'Leary's Cow please ?
Also....herbal cigarettes eh ? So...is marijuana an herbal cigarette ?
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The EPA's report obviously isn't the end-all and be-all of second-hand smoking reports. There are tons of others - a google search will give you a lifetime's worth of information from all over the world.
To be more definitive, someone should lock a bunch of people in a room with smoke from cigarettes piped into the room. Let's see how long they last.
Joe, are you living with your parents now? Lungs will clear up over time, but your risk of cancer goes up. A lot also depends on the type of cigs smoked and how often you stayed indoors with them. My grandmother lives in Hong Kong where the outside temperature is typical 100F to 120F during most of the year - everyone stays indoors for the airconditioning. Quite a different environment from Colorado.
Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
Gamesh...
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Here is a link to an article about second-hand smoke studies:
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...000_0000_ep_01
There certainly is a lot of "politics" involved in the studies. Well, at least it isn't as hot an issue as speaker wire.
This:
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| A controversial new study that questions the health risks of being exposed to secondhand smoke -- a factor often said to contribute to some 50,000 American deaths each year -- has outraged some health officials. |
Versus this:
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| In fact, researchers reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1998 that 75% of studies done between 1980 and 1995 that found no link between secondhand smoke and health problems were funded by tobacco companies. In that review, researchers examined 106 studies conducted in those 15 years; two in three indicated secondhand smoke does contribute to lung and heart disease. |
Pick your poison.
Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
Gamesh...
whenever someone recites the "conclusions" from that report as if they were gospel truth.
