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5/18/05 at 11:57pm
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*** Official STAR WARS Saga (episodes I to VI) Discussion Thread: Part 4
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*** Official STAR WARS Saga (episodes I to VI) Discussion Thread: Part 4
5/18/05 at 11:59pm
Please vote for your favorite Star Wars films in the links below. Thank you for your participation.
Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Episode IV: A New Hope
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Episode IV: A New Hope
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
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5/19/05 at 12:02am
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Where is everyone?
Thanks for the new threads Robert
P.S. I voted ESB as favorite.
Thanks for the new threads Robert
P.S. I voted ESB as favorite.
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5/19/05 at 12:51am
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MOTHER FUCKER!
The projector at my theater died with about 30-40 minutes to go. I waited in fucking line for 2.5 hours in addition to waiting for tickets a few weeks ago, and now I have to go to work in 4.5 hours.
Worst. Film. Experience. Ever.
I am absolutely speechless. I cannot believe this fucking happened to me.
The projector at my theater died with about 30-40 minutes to go. I waited in fucking line for 2.5 hours in addition to waiting for tickets a few weeks ago, and now I have to go to work in 4.5 hours.
Worst. Film. Experience. Ever.
I am absolutely speechless. I cannot believe this fucking happened to me.
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5/19/05 at 1:27am
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Wow... that would suck royally. Out of all the films to go see and have the projector die, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith would not be a good film for that.
One question I have, does Owen and Beru know what happened to Anakin?
One question I have, does Owen and Beru know what happened to Anakin?
5/19/05 at 1:31am
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Joe: All we have to go on is Owen telling Luke that "he died about the same time as your father". While we know that Owen knows more than he is telling Luke, he probably thinks Anakin is dead, and wants to forget Obi-wan existed. (He probably blames Obi-Wan for Luke not knowing his father or mother)
William
5/19/05 at 4:40am
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wow. matt. that really sucks. I will be royally pissed if anything like that happens to me tonight when I go see it. 
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oh my god, oh my god, 11 hours to go. (dances around like a 10 year old school girl)
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oh my god, oh my god, 11 hours to go. (dances around like a 10 year old school girl)
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5/19/05 at 7:16am
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Matt, damn, I don't know what to say... my presentation went well but the volume was a bit low. I already can't wait for the DVD, cause except for the shared crowd experience there's not much theater's offer really, I've had a lot of "I'm getting too old for this lately!"
As for voting, I'm gonna see RotS a few more times first.
I'll toss in that it worked very well by accentuating stuff from the PT that needed it (Tusken slaughter, mother's death) and skipping the stuff that didn't (Sifo-Dyas).
Plus it adds a lot to ANH but does hurt a scene. I'll never buy Vader's reaction to seeing Obi-Wan again. Instead of the circle is complete, how about you left me burning alive you *#^$%#$#$%!
As for voting, I'm gonna see RotS a few more times first.
I'll toss in that it worked very well by accentuating stuff from the PT that needed it (Tusken slaughter, mother's death) and skipping the stuff that didn't (Sifo-Dyas).
Plus it adds a lot to ANH but does hurt a scene. I'll never buy Vader's reaction to seeing Obi-Wan again. Instead of the circle is complete, how about you left me burning alive you *#^$%#$#$%!
5/19/05 at 9:30am
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Force question of the day:
How is the force brought into balance at the end of episode 6?
At the end of ROTJ we are left with one Jedi knight - Luke and one force-sensitive - Leia.
That makes two for the light side and none for the dark.
Where or what are the offsetting components to counteract these light side aspects?
How is the force brought into balance at the end of episode 6?
At the end of ROTJ we are left with one Jedi knight - Luke and one force-sensitive - Leia.
That makes two for the light side and none for the dark.
Where or what are the offsetting components to counteract these light side aspects?
Every man is my superior, in that I may learn from him.
5/19/05 at 10:15am
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| How is the force brought into balance at the end of episode 6? |
Good question, Lou. That raises the question of the meaning of the term "balance." Is it in terms of numbers? I'm not sure. If it is, then Anakin did bring balance to the force twice. At the end of ROTS, we are left with two Sith and two Jedi. At the end of ROTJ, we are left with one Sith (Vader/Anakin) and one Jedi (luke), although you could argue that since Vader dies, we are left with only one Jedi.
Does anyone have quotes they can post from Lucas in regards to this? I'm off to Google this topic.
5/19/05 at 10:20am
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Google really is your best friend. Here is a quote from Lucas:
Quote:
| The meaning of Balance of the Force: Let me explain briefly. If good and evil are mixed things become blurred - there is nothing between good and evil, everything is grey. In each of us we have balance these emotions, and in the Star Wars saga the most important point is balance, balance between everything. It is dangerous to lose this. In The Phantom Menace one of the Jedi Council already knows the balance of The Force is starting to slip, and will slip further. It is obvious to this person that The Sith are going to destroy this balance. On the other hand a prediction which is referred to states someone will replace the balance in the future. At the right time a balance may again be created, but presently it is being eroded by dark forces. All of this shall be explained in Episode 2, so I can't say any more! |
5/19/05 at 10:26am
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Lou,
"Balance" doesn't necessarily mean an equal presence of good and evil. Were the Sith as numerous as the Jedi, they would likely overpower them, and plunge the universe into a violent dictatorship. That would not be "balanced". Balance can mean harmony, peace, stability, all of which are achieved when the Sith are finally defeated.
"Balance" doesn't necessarily mean an equal presence of good and evil. Were the Sith as numerous as the Jedi, they would likely overpower them, and plunge the universe into a violent dictatorship. That would not be "balanced". Balance can mean harmony, peace, stability, all of which are achieved when the Sith are finally defeated.
Man, an hour wasted on this sig! Thanks, Toshiba! :p
5/19/05 at 10:33am
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Quote:
| In each of us we have balance these emotions, and in the Star Wars saga the most important point is balance, balance between everything. It is dangerous to lose this. |
The best long term solution would be for Luke and Leia to not use their Force powers and not train anyone else.
Every man is my superior, in that I may learn from him.
5/19/05 at 10:38am
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Matt:
I'm really sorry about that. I hope you can go see ROTS again today.
I'm not voting until I see ROTS again....it will end up anywhere from #1 to #3 but I need to see it again first. If the emotional impact remains the same, it will be #1.
I'm really sorry about that. I hope you can go see ROTS again today.
I'm not voting until I see ROTS again....it will end up anywhere from #1 to #3 but I need to see it again first. If the emotional impact remains the same, it will be #1.
5/19/05 at 10:53am
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yeah, hard to vote right after a screening. Too much swirling around in the mind...and heart.
I'll may need several more viewings before I can accurately give ROTS it's ranking destiny.
I'll may need several more viewings before I can accurately give ROTS it's ranking destiny.
5/19/05 at 10:56am
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...Which won't be a problem for ya, will it?
Man, an hour wasted on this sig! Thanks, Toshiba! :p
5/19/05 at 10:58am
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Yeah, Tim, you really just need to see ROTS 31 more times...then rating problem solved!
5/19/05 at 10:58am
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:p)
5/19/05 at 11:00am
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After the Impulsive, Most Impulsive...Master Replica Lightsaber purchases recently believe me, 31 more times is not a possibility. 
5/19/05 at 11:44am
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Trying not to look at any other posts...
I'm still very, very pissed off. I stopped by another theater at lunch and picked up a ticket for 6:45 tonight. Meanwhile, I'm very, very tired.
Bastards.
I'm still very, very pissed off. I stopped by another theater at lunch and picked up a ticket for 6:45 tonight. Meanwhile, I'm very, very tired.
Bastards.
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5/19/05 at 12:18pm
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What would Yoda's Sith name be?
Cause going by that Pepsi commercial, he is using the force for personal gain. Yoda is going down he path of the Darkside.
Cause going by that Pepsi commercial, he is using the force for personal gain. Yoda is going down he path of the Darkside.
5/19/05 at 3:00pm
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Greetings
IF the Jedi council were around in Luke's time ... he would not have been able to save his friends or his father ...
In TESB ... Yoda says that if Luke rushes off to rescue his friends ... he would destroy all they have fought for ... AKA ... let them die ... (Why does that sound familiar?)
In ROTJ ... Luke must save his father ... strangely similar to Anakin must save Padme or Mother ... and Luke ignores all to that end. Anakin waits too long ... because the Jedi council keeps holding him back ...
Vader saves Luke because he is finally in a position to save someone he loves ... something he couldn't do all those years ago.
Wonderful how ROTS makes us look at the original trilogy in a different light.
Regards
IF the Jedi council were around in Luke's time ... he would not have been able to save his friends or his father ...
In TESB ... Yoda says that if Luke rushes off to rescue his friends ... he would destroy all they have fought for ... AKA ... let them die ... (Why does that sound familiar?)
In ROTJ ... Luke must save his father ... strangely similar to Anakin must save Padme or Mother ... and Luke ignores all to that end. Anakin waits too long ... because the Jedi council keeps holding him back ...
Vader saves Luke because he is finally in a position to save someone he loves ... something he couldn't do all those years ago.
Wonderful how ROTS makes us look at the original trilogy in a different light.
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5/19/05 at 5:24pm
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Quote:
| One question I have, does Owen and Beru know what happened to Anakin? |
Aunt Beru: Luke's just not a farmer, Owen. He has too much of his father in him.
Owen: That's what I'm afraid of.
The man I loved - the man who vanished - he never came back at all. But maybe he's still out there, somewhere. Maybe some day, when Gotham no longer needs Batman, I'll see him again.
5/19/05 at 6:03pm
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I think Owen and Beru don't know Anakin lived on and became Darth Vader. I've always assumed Obi-Wan told them that Anakin was killed in the war, and so Owen grows to hate the Jedi, since looking at it from his perspective, he had a step-brother he barely got to know because he was taken from his mother´s side when he was a boy, and thanks to his commitment to the Jedi, he was too late to save her when she needed him the most. Owen's fear for Luke is based on how the family he could have had was torn apart by their connection to the Jedi.
Man, an hour wasted on this sig! Thanks, Toshiba! :p
5/19/05 at 6:09pm
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I'd assume Ricardo is 100% right. As far as the universe is concerned, Anakin is dead. Only Yoda and OW can confirm who Vader really is (and maybe R2). It's also possible Organa knows. I doubt OW shared that tidbit with Beru
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Take care,
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5/19/05 at 6:12pm
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If the universe thinks Anakin is dead, then the universe also has no idea that Anakin Skywalker ever turned against the Jedi.
So Anakin Skywalker remains a hero in the annals of the Republic, albeit explaining how he died would be a bit difficult.
So Anakin Skywalker remains a hero in the annals of the Republic, albeit explaining how he died would be a bit difficult.
5/19/05 at 7:51pm
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Matt that really sucks what happened to you.
It also sucks, although to a lesser level that my hometown didn't have a midnight showing and I just got back from ROTS.
I'm in the camp that won't vote until I've seen ROTS a time or 2 more. Tim is right, as of this moment there is just too much swurling around in my head and in my heart.
I think Ricardo hit the nail on the head in his assessment of what Owen knew and thought and what he feared for his nephew.
It also sucks, although to a lesser level that my hometown didn't have a midnight showing and I just got back from ROTS.
I'm in the camp that won't vote until I've seen ROTS a time or 2 more. Tim is right, as of this moment there is just too much swurling around in my head and in my heart.
I think Ricardo hit the nail on the head in his assessment of what Owen knew and thought and what he feared for his nephew.
5/19/05 at 8:54pm
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Okay, I finally got the see the entire film. I'm not voting at this time either, though I'm leaning toward ESB as #1 and ROTS as #2.
I remember people saying (myself included) that AOTC was drastically different than all other Star Wars films. I think Sith only continues this. It really is nothing like anything I've seen before. I think Lucas did an amazing job of arranging quiet personal moments amidst a background of CGI fueled chaos. It really creates a unique texture.
I remember people saying (myself included) that AOTC was drastically different than all other Star Wars films. I think Sith only continues this. It really is nothing like anything I've seen before. I think Lucas did an amazing job of arranging quiet personal moments amidst a background of CGI fueled chaos. It really creates a unique texture.
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5/19/05 at 9:32pm
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Quote:
| Plus it adds a lot to ANH but does hurt a scene. I'll never buy Vader's reaction to seeing Obi-Wan again. Instead of the circle is complete, how about you left me burning alive you *#^$%#$#$%! |
totally agree Fred
just posted this in the ROTS discussion thread before venturing in here
Quote:
| the one thing that now seems out of character in A New Hope is the encounter between Vader and Obi Wan you would think after what Obi Wan did to Anakin that there would be a lot more 'fire' in Vader for revenge upon their first encounter since that incident... Vader seems too subdued. you would think that maybe Obi Wan would be taken aback by Vader's mechanical appearance unless he had force premonitions about his physical state or read about him in the Tatooine Times you would think Obi Wan would still even after all these years address Vader as Anakin (maybe not because of his belief Anakin is dead) or at least Vader and not Darth...calling him Darth seems equal to calling Dooku Count instead of Dooku. just a few thoughts |
5/20/05 at 12:27am
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Vader might appear more subdued because of the way OBW has aged since they met. Vader has obviously grown stronger with the Dark Side, more arrogant and confident. No one's heard a thing from OBW in years.
I bought it before ROTS and still do.
I bought it before ROTS and still do.
