Sony Pictures continues to drop existing widescreen transfers
thanks for bringing the 16x9 WS OAR 5.1 DTS Japanese NTSC Annie DVD to my attention (aaaahhhhhh).
Never would have known about it otherwise!!! I managed to order it through the www.amazon.co.jp
Can't wait...my Region-free Momitsu is reved to go!




| The first post in this thread says the "latest" casualties... is there a list of all the titles that they've f___ed up? |
Yes. I've compiled a list of all the known casualties.
List of Sony titles with widescreen dropped Part I and Part II
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I don't know, I thought the opposite of this would happen. That the titles that had previously only been in "foolscreen" would be re-released in WS.....
I do believe it's more or less just a problem within the US though. I can't remember reading about any re-releases in R2 that got rid of the WS-presentation. Making a quick check, "Annie", "The deep" and "Iron Eagle" are all anarmorphic WS in R2. Is it just a matter of widescreen-tv's being more common over here?
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| Are this butchered versions only sold by retail shops like Wal-Mart, or does amazon.com also sell them. |
Soon, these will be the only versions of the discs available so every retail store will sell the P&S only discs. Get what you want while you can
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Looking at the earlier list, and the one from page 1; I have missed a few titles that I would have added to my collection. Oh well, more money for other studios. Frickin' Columbia Tri-Star
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| Yes. I've compiled a list of all the known casualties. |
| Are this butchered versions only sold by retail shops like Wal-Mart, or does amazon.com also sell them. |
On the other hand, I haven't seen many of them, and if I do, and end up liking them, I'm going to be majorly pissed that they're only available MAR.
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| Could someone please give me a logical explanation as to why Sony is doing this?! |
Aren't most of these titles the ones that Wal-Mart carries in those $5 bins?
Not to start a conspiracy theory, but did they tell Sony that they only wanted full frame versions?
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Again, this speaks volumes about the "New" Sony Pictures versus the "Old" Columbia TriStar.
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| Again, this speaks volumes about the "New" Sony Pictures versus the "Old" Columbia TriStar. |
Actually, this has been going on for a couple years. They've been dropping the widescreen version of double sided releases for a while now. I remember a year or so ago, IDLE HANDS was one of the first releases they did this with.
This is going to be Laserdisc vs. VHS again, isn't it?
Like in '89 when everybody got to get their copies of Batman except me. I had to wait for my Dad to get the letterboxed laserdisc for 4 times as much. Ditto with Last Crusade.
(one of those moments I really wish I could swear at HTF)
1) The ht/dvd enthusiast who has and 16:9 set and enjoys prefers everything in anamorphic widescreen. Us HTFers are these people. We have owned a dvdplayer for many years and have large collection of dvds.
The other group
2) The common J6P. They have a 4:3 set and have only gotten into dvd recently cause you can buy a crappy "NOVA" player for 4 bucks at Walmart. These are the people that buy a movie simply for the title not the aspect ratio or the quality.
So if Sony is downgrading many of there catalog titles with the anticipation of HDdvd/BluRay, it a smart move on their part. All the J6Pers that will support SD dvd for the next 5 years will get everything in foolscreen. But for us people that want widescreen dvds, we will be forced to upgrade.
Look at the two catagories of people above, who will it be easier to convince to buy HDdvd??? US!
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You see threads here and on other forums, of people upset that a certain title isn't being released in either widescreen or not anamorphic. People, totally outraged, talking about starting petitions, creating letter writing campaigns, boycotts, making hourly phone calls to the studio, contacting the media, etc.
But here, where you have a studio that actually does have the widescreen, anamorphic transfers and inexplicably abandoing them for full frame transfers, while some people are obviously upset, it doesn't raise to the level of, oh, I don't know, JUST ONE OF THE GUYS being released full frame only.
I mean, this is a very scary trend here. I can't believe more people aren't upset.
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| I can't believe more people aren't upset. |
Don't confuse the couple hundred people who post on internet forums with the millions who make up the DVD market. There are plenty of folks who are upset but not on the net, and plenty more who aren't upset at all.
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| I can't believe more people aren't upset. |
I agree. Where's the guy who got "Castle Keep" a second release?
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| Don't confuse the couple hundred people who post on internet forums with the millions who make up the DVD market. There are plenty of folks who are upset but not on the net, and plenty more who aren't upset at all. |
Actually, I would guess that the people who don't post on forums like this are among those who really wouldn't care about widescreen / fullscreen.
But among those who ARE on the net, I'm surprised it isn't a bigger issue.
| are they going to release pan and scan blu-ray discs? |
Only if Wal-Mart sells them.
| I agree. Where's the guy who got "Castle Keep" a second release? |
Like I said earlier, the rumor is that Steven Speilberg, Martin Scorcese, and George Lucas intervened by writing a letter to Sony and apparently that is what convinced them to release the OAR version. That's why I think we need to figure out how to contact the directors of these films and maybe then things might change. I think it's obvious that Sony will not listen to customer feedback and/or internet petitions.
The funny thing is that some guy got MGM named in a class action lawsuit about their insert graphics misrepresting the actual way their widescreen tranfers were derived. There must be some kind of way to get this practice exposed to larger eyes.
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I get what you're saying. I know for one that I'm upset and outraged...but also a little "beaten down" by the whole Columbia thing...basically I've just given up and what they do doesn't affect me anymore. After the R1 P/S Annie SE with DTS 5.1 (the out-of-print WS 16x9 version only had a bad-sounding 2.0 DD track), I was forced to "let go" with Columbia because it was just getting me so furious to think about it.
Of course,
now that I've ordered my 16x9 OAR DTS version from Japan, maybe I'll regain a bit of inner strength and march on!

p.s. Even Brian Henson calling Disney personally and asking them to release Muppet Treasure Island in 16x9 OAR didn't convince their marketing team to change their mind.
| get what you're saying. I know for one that I'm upset and outraged...but also a little "beaten down" by the whole Columbia thing...basically I've just given up and what they do doesn't affect me anymore. After the R1 P/S Annie SE with DTS 5.1 (the out-of-print WS 16x9 version only had a bad-sounding 2.0 DD track), I was forced to "let go" with Columbia because it was just getting me so furious to think about it. |
I agree. Every time Columbia/Sony has just started to look as though they are mending their ways (by producing special editions like TWO BROTHERS which actually include a trailer), they turn around and pull something like this.
I give up, too.
Really, who the f*&k cares about a pan-and-scan edition of BITE THE BULLET and BODY DOUBLE? These are films that aficionados will pick up, and WE WANT WIDESCREEN!!
God, I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the corporate meetings when assholes decide to drop widescreen versions. I want to know who they are and WHY they are!! I want to put a face to these moronic decisions, so that I can direct my reactions to them personally.
But Sony's Home Entertainment division is nothing more than a part of a corporation which, like Enron, is run by the clueless.


