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New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
10/5/06 at 7:52am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
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Originally Posted by Felix Martinez
Folks, while it is unfortunate re: the audio changes, I have not been more pleased watching TCM - including a theatrical viewing in 1980 during the re-release. It is phenomenal-looking, and while I'm not a devout TCM fanatic, I know the film, I think, very well, and didn't notice the audio changes.
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You should see the HD version. It looks just too good on my Ruby.
10/6/06 at 8:04am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
I'm optimistic that Dark Sky will correct this. They were about to release Eaten Alive and found a better print and scrapped all the work that they did so they could release a better product. It may take awhile but I think they'll fix TCM too.
10/6/06 at 2:04pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work
Great thread. I'll definately save my money until this issue is resolved. I absolutely agree that the sound is equally as important as the picture. Especially on a really good horror film like this. They originally did a hell of a great job on sound effects for TCM. It freaks me out for that alone. Heck, I could just sit and listen to the sound and get freaked out by TCM.I have the same one pictured above with the chainsaw edge across the front. I've always been happy with it. But the new one looks so sweet I"m dying to watch it that way. But..I shall wait longer...
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10/6/06 at 3:26pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
If Dark Sky does the right thing and fixes the audio offering us proper presentation of the film as it was originally intended, I will enthusiastically purchase.If not, than I'll unfortunately have to pass - and I was REALLY looking forward to finally owning this classic on DVD.
I guess the medium has spoiled me, but I just refuse to buy any product that seems inferior in any way, be it audio or video wise. There's too many other great DVD's to spend money on.
10/6/06 at 11:18pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
I think the missing sound effect from the second WHACK from Leatherface and the screams when wheelchair-dude are being chopped are pretty important sound effects...
10/7/06 at 5:59am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
Are these only missing from the 5.1 track ? Because thats all ive watched so far.Anyway, the missing audio effects need to be corrected for those who want it, on the elm street dvd theres even more missing audio than this disc!Im suprised no one is complaining about that in the other thread , chainsaw has hardly nothing missing compared to that !
10/7/06 at 9:50am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
^ Could you please elaborate Tony, I haven't picked up that DVD yet either... and am glad I didn't based on what I'm now hearing.What exactly is missing?
10/7/06 at 10:02am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
Theres a few audio clips missing, like tina ripping freddys face.Another one is a music cue when freddy visits rod in jail. Also another music cue when rod jumps at nancy from the bushes.Theres also a couple more i cant remember, hope that helps. It didnt spoil my enjoyment since the movie sounds and looks better than ever, but i understand why others are.
10/20/06 at 4:28pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work
Just watched the new TCM 2-disc movie, with the DD5.1 track.The change that was really noticeable for me was that the radio news broadcast, which plays over the zoom out over the graveyard corpse, carries on over the opening credits at the same volume. You get to hear some random news items that have nothing to do with the rest of the film!
This isn't present on my non-anamorphic R2 that I picked up a couple of years ago. The opening credits play with the film score and nothing else.
It seems to me that whoever has done the 5.1 remix has taken a few creative decisions here and there
It doesn't bother me too much, as the 5.1 mix is never what the director intended anyway, so you may as well accept that it's going to be someone else's artistic interpretation of how a surround track for the film *should* sound.The missing audio elements on the mono track are another story... maybe I'll stick with the stereo track for the ultimate authentic experience

To confirm what other posters have said, the remastered picture is really something.
J.
These are the new leads. These are the Glengarry leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them. Why? Because to give them to you is just throwing them away. They're for closers.
10/20/06 at 9:04pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
so... are any of the audio tracks (besides the commentaries...) actually presented correctly?
10/20/06 at 9:07pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work
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Originally Posted by John J Nelson
Just watched the new TCM 2-disc movie, with the DD5.1 track.
The change that was really noticeable for me was that the radio news broadcast, which plays over the zoom out over the graveyard corpse, carries on over the opening credits at the same volume. You get to hear some random news items that have nothing to do with the rest of the film! This isn't present on my non-anamorphic R2 that I picked up a couple of years ago. The opening credits play with the film score and nothing else. ... |
The news report playing over the credits has been in every version of THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE that I've ever seen.
Vincent
10/21/06 at 10:35am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
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Originally Posted by Jonathon M
so... are any of the audio tracks (besides the commentaries...) actually presented correctly?
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Basically, no. All of the audio tracks are screwed up.
And someone over at DVDManiacs posted yesterday that the siren-noise sound-effects at the beginning of the movie (that famous whining siren sound that you hear every time that camera-bulb flash goes off in the opening graveyard sequence) is also missing from the mono track on the Dark Sky release. Now, I haven't pulled out my disc yet to confirm this personally, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. And if this is true, that really is the final straw on this botched release. I also bet that there are a lot more sounds and effects missing from the rest of the film that people haven't picked up on yet, some sounds that are probably not as crucial and noticeable as the ones people noticed right away. But, geez, crucial sound efx like that siren, Sally screaming, hammer hits to the head, falling on tree and ground noises - all missing! I can tell you this, I will never watch this version of the film ever - I don't care how pristine it looks. Sound is just too crucial of an element in this film. This release has turned out to be the biggest DVD disappointment of the year. What a waste.
And at this point, it appears Dark Sky is taking the low road and not acknowledging the issue at all. It appears they are just sweeping it under the rug and hoping the controversery and furor dies down (as it appears it already has). I will think twice before purchasing any of their future releases.
10/21/06 at 10:47am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
I'm not going to purchase any more of their releases either. I don't have much money and I could have bought another film. But I was told over and over again how wonderful this release was going to be...and I got burned. Definitely the most disappointing release of the year.
10/21/06 at 4:11pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
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Originally Posted by JeffMc
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And at this point, it appears Dark Sky is taking the low road and not acknowledging the issue at all. It appears they are just sweeping it under the rug and hoping the controversery and furor dies down (as it appears it already has). I will think twice before purchasing any of their future releases. |
Or maybe they're working on fixing the error and will announce something when they have something to announce re: the fix?
Vincent
10/21/06 at 4:40pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
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Originally Posted by Vincent_P
Or maybe they're working on fixing the error and will announce something when they have something to announce re: the fix?
Vincent |
Possibly, and if they are working on a fix, I will be willing to take any flack for having this initial negative skepticism. However, I do believe they should have issued a statement promptly if they are doing something about the defects. Since they are still selling this as the "ultimate edition" and this thing has been hyped to high-heaven for years as it was going to be the end-all edition, I do think the majority of fans would agree that such an 'ultimate' package should at least include the film with its entire sountrack intact. It even says on the case that the original mono track is included so there is somewhat of a fraud issue here. Maybe not intentional at the time, but they aren't recalling these things and continue to sell them, and I know it has sold a LOT of copies already. Even if they do make a fix, that still means everyone who wants it will probably have to pay for shipping costs to send the disc in for an exchange. Others who don't really care about the sound errors or never knew about them end up just keeping their defective disc and Dark Sky basically sold them faulty merchandise. Personally, I really don't care that much about the $20 I spent, I'm just irritated that we still do not have a good copy of this film on DVD. The image on the Pioneer release was OK for its time, although I always was annoyed more with the shifting artifacts in that transfer than the actual sharpness and clarity of the image, which looked OK. Still, I will definitely choose that artifact-ridden transfer over this sound-mess Dark Sky release any day. If they don't fix it, that probably means this edition will clog up the market for 5-7 more years before there's a chance of someone doing it right.
As for the missing siren-noise effects, someone else posted on DVDManiacs later saying they ARE on all the audio tracks. I can't seem to find my disc right now to check it myself (and, honestly, it wouldn't change my overall feelings on this disc one way or the other). Still, I don't want to spread any false rumors if the siren-effects are indeed on the audio-tracks. So as it stands, the siren effects do seem to be intact unless someone verifies otherwise.
Hopefully for all of us here, Dark Sky will do the right thing eventually so we can truly have an "ultimate edition" of this film.
10/21/06 at 7:32pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
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Originally Posted by JeffMc
As for the missing siren-noise effects, someone else posted on DVDManiacs later saying they ARE on all the audio tracks.
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As for the replacement, I said it before but Dark Sky scrapped their work on Eaten Alive at the 11th hour because they found a better print so I think that means that they want to make the best product and will issue replacements.
10/21/06 at 7:58pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
The "Siren sound", BTW, is the strings on a violin being over tightened.
-Kevin M.
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10/21/06 at 11:43pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
okay, so which would be the best audio track to listen to, even a remix, as far as having the least screwed up sound?i just want to know which to watch until i author a disc with the image from dark sky and the sound from pioneer...
10/22/06 at 12:48am
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Off topic but maybe of interest - last I heard, the 2-disc SE of TEXAS discussed here has sold way, way, way under expectations for Dark Sky, especially compared to the cost of monies that they spent on advertising (reportedly a lot). Anything could and can happen, but I'd have to wonder how quickly they'll want to start a replacement / repressing / remix for a disc that hasn't nearly lived up to expectations for them. It's a shame, as I've bought the disc myself, had waited a long while for it, and would have at least expected this 'Ultimate' edition to be on top of things like AV quality rather than suffering from avoidable goofs. The tin is nice though.
10/22/06 at 10:16am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
I had read the same thing at another board.You know, there really hasn't been that big of a backlash against this audio problem so I'm curious if they'll fix it at all. The entire issue seems to be dead at just about every other genre message board.
If the poor sales are true it might have an effect but maybe not. Blue Underground had disc issues with SADOMANIA and the BLIND DEAD yet both were fixed. I'm sure TCM would sell more copies than those items.
10/22/06 at 10:24am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
Just out of curiosity, where did this info originally come from? Is it from an embittered nerd who knows the audio is screwed up and looks at a shelf in Best Buy and thinks 'Boy, they have alot of these sitting here. They must not be selling because everyone knows the audio is fucked up' and then he spreads a rumor online or is it from a person who actually has information directly from Dark Sky?I'm not doubting anyone here (and quite honestly this is a re-release of a smaller catalog title so low sales aren't impossible to believe) but I'm curious as to the source.
10/22/06 at 11:50am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work
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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
If the poor sales are true it might have an effect but maybe not. Blue Underground had disc issues with SADOMANIA and the BLIND DEAD yet both were fixed. I'm sure TCM would sell more copies than those items.
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What was wrong with the Blind Dead box?
-Lyle J.P.
10/22/06 at 1:18pm
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
http://p210.ezboard.com/fthelatarnia...ID=256.top icVERY small issue with the Blind Dead but they did fix it. SADOMANIA just had a day for night scene changed but again, it was fixed so good for BU. I believe they also exchanged their Mondo Cane box.
10/22/06 at 1:50pm
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Travis, no problem. The info came from a reliable source.
10/22/06 at 3:11pm
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That's unfortunate because if you set aside the audio problems for a moment, this is a very good set- the movie looks better than ever and the extras are good so if they fix the audio, this would be a great release to own. And while fixing the audio won't get them thousands of more sales, it could get them a few more and they'd also be doing right by the people who already bought it.
2/13/07 at 6:59am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
wow, I did not expect this thread to end so abruptly. What ever happened? Did discussion of the sound issues move elsewhere?Did we ever get an answer from Dark Sky?
I would LOVE to get this set but I want to hear they will fix the audio problems first.
2/13/07 at 9:13am
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Well, I'm sorry it didn't sell well even with the messed up sound. But I'll say again, like many other fans of TCM, I'm holding my money until they fix the sound and then this will be a best seller.I like the idea of re-authoring. But until I upgrade my PC I wouldnt even try it. In the future perhaps.
Real Name: Arthur Belling of "St. Looney Up-The-Cream-Bun-and-Jam"
BEAR: 1992?-2007.
GOLDIE: 1997-2008.
Still mourning my girls.
2/14/07 at 5:25am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
I said it before and ill say it now, they need to fix the the missing audio parts for those who want it.But if you are depriving yourself of this great release, for just that you are missing out ! You have never seen chainsaw look better than this and sound better than this . Great new extras, old extras carried over, unique dvd packaging .Also in my opinion, if they had any intentions of fixing those missing audio cues,they wouldve done it by now.Its been out nearly 5 months now.Everything I said goes for the new line infinifilm nightmare on elm street release as well.
2/14/07 at 8:28am
Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work
I've said it before and I'll...umh... *throws podium in the bushes*I like the film gritty. I want to see it nice and clean too, but I can wait. Oh, just thought of this...If I want to see it nice and clean I can watch TCM2.
(joke)
Real Name: Arthur Belling of "St. Looney Up-The-Cream-Bun-and-Jam"
BEAR: 1992?-2007.
GOLDIE: 1997-2008.
Still mourning my girls.


