Home Theater Forum  ›  Forums  ›  Entertainment and Media  ›  SD DVD - Film and Documentary  ›  New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!
Forum Nav More Forums | All New Posts | New Thread

New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

#121
Rating: 0
9/14/06 at 4:13pm
  • Joined: March 2001
  • Post Count: 3,523

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
And semi-off topic, anyone know what's going on with Tobe Hooper's Eaten Alive? I thought it was supposed to come out on the 26th too but it's not listed at Dark Sky's site anymore.

Dark Sky delayed it because they found a new print which they're using to do a better transfer, and the delay is allowing them to include a Hooper commentary as well. You can read about it here:

http://fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2617

I heard the new disc's transfer wasn't correctly flagged for progressive playback, so hopefully they'll fix that too (and I'm guessing they will).
DVD Collection
Export to Wiki
#122
Rating: 0
9/14/06 at 7:00pm
  • Joined: November 2004
  • Location: The basement of the FBI building
  • Post Count: 12,658

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Thanks, Justin. As the link points out, the new Fango even has a review so I was wondering what the deal was. Cool news that they're going out of their way for that movie.
Export to Wiki
#123
Rating: 0
9/25/06 at 2:23pm
  • Joined: April 2003
  • Post Count: 2,115

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Ok, does anyone know why this releases dvd case is called a steelbook package ? I know its in a bigger than normal dvd case, but is it made from diffrent material , or in 1 of those glass cases the previous pioneer version was ?
Export to Wiki
#124
Rating: 0
9/25/06 at 6:30pm
  • Joined: October 1999
  • Post Count: 1,175

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Have you ever seen the R1 release of DUNE: Extended Edition? It's like that, a standard DVD case-sized metal tin.
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, \"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.\" I agree with the second part...
--Det. William Somerset, SE7EN

http://www.dvdanthology.com/Filmmaker-movielist.html), http://LDDb.com/collection.php?actio...user=Filmmaker
Export to Wiki
#125
Rating: 0
9/26/06 at 4:03am
  • Joined: April 2003
  • Post Count: 2,115

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

So basically what youre saying is its a standard dvd case, but made from metal tin material thats used on some boxsets, correct ?
Export to Wiki
#126
Rating: 0
9/27/06 at 9:35pm
  • Joined: February 2000
  • Location: Somewhere west of St. Louis MO
  • Post Count: 5,063

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work

Well I bought this last night and it looks SOOOOOOO much better than I thought TCM could ever look.....fantastic transfer!

The extras are great but if I had just one minor criticism it might be that the deleted scenes/outtakes on the older disc had rather nice explanations of what the context of the deleted scene was and it's reason for being deleted, on the new disc they are simply run straight through with no explanation and no chapter stops between each individual cut scene & outtake....no HUGE problem but a bit annoying if you have the first disc to compare it to.

Great disc all the way around anyway and WELL WORTH THE MONEY! $18.99 is a steal for this transfer.

Get it. Watch it. Enjoy it.
-Kevin M.

See You Next Wednesday

Export to Wiki
#127
Rating: 0
9/28/06 at 4:57am
  • Joined: May 2001
  • Post Count: 566

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Kevin, how did you think the contrast boosting was in this version? Did you see it in many places?
Export to Wiki
#128
Rating: 0
9/28/06 at 7:34am
  • Joined: January 2002
  • Post Count: 923

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

I also rented this since I own the Pioneer disc (which I will soon be selling) and it does look better than I ever thought this movie could look. The documentary is good too, even touching on the sequels, and is pretty extensive with most of the cast.
Click here to see my DVD's!
Export to Wiki
#129
Rating: 0
9/28/06 at 7:42am
  • Joined: February 2000
  • Location: Somewhere west of St. Louis MO
  • Post Count: 5,063

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

I see no contrast boosting personally, the blacks are rather inky in the night scenes but never at a sacrifice to detail so I suppose this might be a sign of overly stepped up contrast but in the daytime sequences I see no blown out whites (aside from the van windows of course) or stepped up edges. Great transfer IMO. Buy it Mattias, you're not likely to get a better version anytime soon....aside from HD I suppose.
-Kevin M.

See You Next Wednesday

Export to Wiki
#130
Rating: 0
10/2/06 at 4:53pm
  • Joined: April 2003
  • Post Count: 2,115

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

I recieved this today along with nightmare infinifilm.Didnt have time to watch it yet, but i just had to pop it in the dvd player right away just to look at the transfer for a little. Just from the chapter skipping alone you can tell its a fantastic restoration.Cant wait to start digging into this set the next few days.Ive noticed inside the packaging there is a website for the steelbook packaging , apparently tcm isnt the only dvd released in this packaging.Hope more dvds are released in this unique packaging.
Export to Wiki
#131
Rating: 0
10/2/06 at 5:15pm
  • Joined: August 2001
  • Post Count: 1,130

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Got it. Love it. Blows away all previous versions. Other than some compression anomalies around the fine blades of grass when Franklin takes a tumble, the new image is amazing. A hi-def version will be the next benchmark, but for under $20, this release is just too good to pass up!
Felix E. Martinez
www.applesandorangesband.com
Export to Wiki
#132
Rating: 0
10/2/06 at 9:28pm
  • Joined: February 2003
  • Location: Siberia
  • Post Count: 477

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

As reported on basically every DVD and horror forum, the presentation of the film on this "Ultimate Edition" release is missing sound efx on all the various audio tracks, including the supposedly original mono track that apparently was "digitally remastered". Maybe they remastered out the efx in the process. Yep, there's lots of bells and whistles and extras galore on this new DVD - but they screwed up the audio on the actual film itself. Some may not care as much, but I feel the original sound-mix and sound efx of a film (which are usually carefully and painstakingly layered-in by the sound techs and director in post-production) are as crucial an element of a film as the visual image. Great, the sky looks really blue and crisp! But it's too bad you can't hear Sally screaming... Oh well. Another basically botched release. And if it's not "botched", it's definitely not "ultimate".
Export to Wiki
#133
Rating: 0
10/2/06 at 11:22pm
  • Joined: February 2000
  • Location: Somewhere west of St. Louis MO
  • Post Count: 5,063

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work

*Sigh*................ok, what's supposedly missing?


EDIT: I did some searching and the reports of the missing "Sally's screams" are way too vague in description to confirm, I mean the girl does A LOT of screaming in the film, however I am sorry to confirm that the sound effect of
Warning Spoiler! Click to show
the second hammer blow to Kirk's head
& the sounds of Sally hitting the tree and ground after jumping out the window are indeed missing from the "original" mono track, they are present on both of the tracks on the Pioneer DVD and the two stereo tracks on the Dark Sky DVD.
Now as to Sally/Marilyn Burns's screams being missing on the remixed stereo tracks, there are just too many scenes where she is screaming to pin down for right now.....but the reports of the mono track being flawed are true.

RE-EDIT: Well I'll be damned, Sally's missing screams weren't that hard to find, they are missing
Warning Spoiler! Click to show
in the scene where Franklin is murdered by Leatherface
and Sally pretty much screams throughout the scene on the mono track, but on the remixed tracks her scream is only heard once fading in and out rather sloppily. Not good.
-Kevin M.

See You Next Wednesday

Export to Wiki
#134
Rating: 0
10/3/06 at 2:07pm
  • Joined: January 2002
  • Post Count: 4,609

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

yep, i noticed the same thing. And also the sounds levels of her screams are all over the place IMHO
http://www.myspace.com/franbro
Export to Wiki
#135
Rating: 0
10/3/06 at 2:36pm
  • Joined: September 2002
  • Post Count: 251

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Sigh. My enthusiasm for this release has just gone out the window (while being chased by Leatherface).
Export to Wiki
#136
Rating: 0
10/3/06 at 3:01pm
  • Joined: January 2002
  • Post Count: 4,609

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

It does LOOK great though....

http://www.myspace.com/franbro
Export to Wiki
#137
Rating: 0
10/3/06 at 4:17pm
  • Joined: August 2002
  • Post Count: 705

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffMc
As reported on basically every DVD and horror forum, the presentation of the film on this "Ultimate Edition" release is missing sound efx on all the various audio tracks... Oh well. Another basically botched release.
lol... Here we gooo!!

"I just pre-ordered I DRINK YOUR BLOOD, even though I have no job."

Export to Wiki
#138
Rating: 0
10/3/06 at 5:30pm
  • Joined: April 1999
  • Post Count: 157

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work

If anyone sees any response from the DVD makers on the 'issues', could you update this thread for those of us that don't get to the other forums? Maybe there will be an official response....
Export to Wiki
#139
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 7:21am
  • Joined: November 2003
  • Post Count: 5,444

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Due to the reports of the audio problems I've been stalling in getting this new release. I just want to know one thing and see if I understand this right ... if I choose to listen to the MONO soundtrack, I won't hear the sounds when the gal crashes through the window, but I WILL get to hear her terrified screams in ALL the appropriate places -- is this accurate? Because Marilyn's frantic screams of terror consistently while being chased AND with the Leatherface/Franklin scene are very much a part of the experience, like a fine tuned orchestra. I'd hate to have it all missing.

It's a shame, since the screen grabs I've seen comparing visual quality are nice in the new edition.
Export to Wiki
#140
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 7:55am
  • Joined: December 1998
  • Post Count: 7,270

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

I have this one...


Itsnt this just a repackaging of the Pioneer disc?


Guess Im passing due to soundtrack issues.
Export to Wiki
#141
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 8:05am
  • Joined: April 2000
  • Post Count: 3,999

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Is the "squishy" sound missing when one of the first victims (forget her name) is impaled on the meathook? That's another missing sound effect that I recall reading in one of the many discussions of this DVD.

\"Only one is a wanderer;
Two together are always going somewhere.\"
Export to Wiki
#142
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 9:02am
  • Joined: September 2002
  • Location: Deadmonton, Alberta Canada
  • Post Count: 5,985

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
I have this one...

Really? your fine with that one? I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to a/v, my friends even more so, but we all though it was terrible looking.

I haven't watched the new one yet. I plan to maybe this weekend so I'll decide for myself if it's as problematic as it seems.
Who knew a credit card could scream?

What I'm listening to right now!

This post is invisible! It also has the power to kill threads!
Export to Wiki
#143
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 10:09am
  • Joined: April 2000
  • Post Count: 2,650

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Don May has posted in this thread. Perhaps he can chime in with thoughts on what went wrong and how it will be fixed. Because, I bought this package based on his word that it was the ultimate presentation, based on superb reviews, and based on the write-up on the packaging that this was restored and had the original mono track (which implies complete mono track). I'm very disappointed.
Export to Wiki
#144
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 11:26am
  • Joined: September 2003
  • Post Count: 4,665

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Why is there always something?


Don't people with first-hand knowledge of the movie being restored, take the short time to watch the thing prior to it being mastered and released?

Wouldn't this save a lot of needless problems?

There's no excuse for this.

What are the other soundtrack options, remixed stereo, 5.1?

How do they sound in comparisson with the way the film SHOULD sound, given the context? Are they complete or sourced from the same issues as what's been done to the mono track on this release?
Export to Wiki
#145
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 12:14pm
  • Joined: August 2001
  • Post Count: 1,130

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Folks, while it is unfortunate re: the audio changes, I have not been more pleased watching TCM - including a theatrical viewing in 1980 during the re-release. It is phenomenal-looking, and while I'm not a devout TCM fanatic, I know the film, I think, very well, and didn't notice the audio changes.

That being said, I'm puzzled about the changes to the original mono mix. Either this isn't it, or there is more than one mono mix. I don't see how a summed mono mix can be "re-mixed" to affect a few selected sound FX.

Re: Don May...I have a feeling he's looking into it and will get back to us with some answers, as he's been very forthcoming about this project with us thus far.
Felix E. Martinez
www.applesandorangesband.com
Export to Wiki
#146
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 1:24pm
  • Joined: February 2003
  • Location: Siberia
  • Post Count: 477

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Felix Martinez
Folks, while it is unfortunate re: the audio changes, I have not been more pleased watching TCM - including a theatrical viewing in 1980 during the re-release. It is phenomenal-looking, and while I'm not a devout TCM fanatic, I know the film, I think, very well, and didn't notice the audio changes.

Just that some people don't notice the missing sound effects and missing screams does not change the fact that many of us do notice these errors and every audio option on this disc is faulty in some aspect. That is inexcusable for a highly touted "ultimate edition". I don't care how beautiful the restored picture looks - I find it amazing that some people find it so easy to forgive such blatant sound errors just because the picture looks really sharp. The soundtrack is just as essential to a film as the image is.

Dark Sky needs to step up to the plate and fix this problem. If they just ignore it and sweep it under the rug or make some phony excuse like "it's an alternate mono track", we have every right to continue to complain. "Ultimate Edition" my ass.
Export to Wiki
#147
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 2:02pm
  • Joined: November 2003
  • Post Count: 5,444

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffMc
Just that some people don't notice the missing sound effects and missing screams does not change the fact that many of us do notice these errors and every audio option on this disc is faulty in some aspect. That is inexcusable for a highly touted "ultimate edition". I don't care how beautiful the restored picture looks - I find it amazing that some people find it so easy to forgive such blatant sound errors just because the picture looks really sharp. The soundtrack is just as essential to a film as the image is.

Dark Sky needs to step up to the plate and fix this problem. If they just ignore it and sweep it under the rug or make some phony excuse like "it's an alternate mono track", we have every right to continue to complain. "Ultimate Edition" my ass.

Gotta agree. I'm figuring some people are upset because they went out and bought the new "new" edition without knowing the audio issues and perhaps some of them even got rid of their old version. I know I've gotten burned like that in the past, so now I always wait to hear the comments before I buy a new release. And luckily, I still have my old Pioneer DVD.
Export to Wiki
#148
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 5:03pm
  • Joined: September 2003
  • Location: Monmouth County, NJ
  • Post Count: 1,002

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottR
Don May has posted in this thread. Perhaps he can chime in with thoughts on what went wrong and how it will be fixed. Because, I bought this package based on his word that it was the ultimate presentation, based on superb reviews, and based on the write-up on the packaging that this was restored and had the original mono track (which implies complete mono track). I'm very disappointed.

Don only worked on the video end as a hired hand. He was hired to supervise the new D5 transfer in 1080P High-Definition from the original 16mm film elements, and to do the extensive restoration work that followed. He wasn't involved with the audio work or final authoring on the DVD at all.

Vincent
Export to Wiki
#149
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 5:40pm
  • Joined: August 2001
  • Post Count: 1,130

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the works!

Quote:
I don't care how beautiful the restored picture looks - I find it amazing that some people find it so easy to forgive such blatant sound errors just because the picture looks really sharp. The soundtrack is just as essential to a film as the image is.
As an audio guy, I agree; however, I just didn't notice the changes while watching the movie. Which does not mean Dark Sky should ignore the questions and refuse to fix any problem(s).
Felix E. Martinez
www.applesandorangesband.com
Export to Wiki
#150
Rating: 0
10/4/06 at 10:02pm
  • Joined: February 2000
  • Location: Somewhere west of St. Louis MO
  • Post Count: 5,063

Re: New 2-Disc Region 1 NTSC DVD of "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (1974) in the work

IMO, aside from the missing screams, the remixed tracks sound fairly good........but now that the horse is out of the barn I can never "not" hear the mistakes......that's the way I am sometimes.

I think Dark Sky should fix the problems and offer an exchange for those of us who layed down good money for a supposedly respectful and "ultimate" presentation of a horror classic. If they want our money in the future it would be a wise move for a "starting" company (not really a new company but a new label for sure) if they want the name Dark Sky to be up there with Blue Underground, Anchor Bay & Synapse then they should make efforts towards pleasing the cult fans who are their primary customer.
-Kevin M.

See You Next Wednesday

Export to Wiki
Forum Nav More Forums | All New Posts | New Thread