What happened to 1492:Conquest of Paradise DVD?

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11/28/04 at 2:00pm

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Hi all,
My first post here. I signed up because I can not find any answers to my question anywhere on the Internet.

Ridley Scott's "1492:Conquest of Paradise" was supposed to be released on November 16, 2004. However, it is still nowhere to be seen. Does anyone know when this DVD will be released for the North American market?

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11/28/04 at 2:10pm

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I've seen it in stores. It's got to be around somewhere.

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11/28/04 at 2:20pm

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Yea, they have it available everywhere but USA. The Special Edition was supposed to be available in the US on November 16, but it got pushed back for some reason.

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11/28/04 at 2:33pm

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I've moved your thread to HT Software - Film and Documentary, which is where most discussions of DVD take place. (TV on DVD has its own area.) If there's any information on this title, I'm sure someone here will know.

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11/29/04 at 9:38am

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Maybe they are waiting for Kingdom of Heaven to come out. My guess would be next summer or next winter when KOH comes out on DVD.

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11/29/04 at 11:20am

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Hummm, I don't know. I am surprised why many people are not interested in this DVD....it may be one of Scott's best "shot" films. After all, it's still the best music score ever used in a film! All my opinions, of course.....

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11/29/04 at 1:17pm

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I'd love to have this on DVD.

I think it's Ridley's EMPIRE OF THE SUN, you know?

I didn't even know it was expected so soon (now). I guess I'll keep my eye out for it. And you know how painful that can be.

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11/29/04 at 2:07pm

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It was announced and then postponned without a new date. Charlie de L. has stated he's working on a few Ridley SEs at the moment, and my feelings is that these are Black Rain and another one. 1492 was supposed to have been out sometime in November I believe withouyt any extras, and was rightfully postponned/cancelled. It needs a 2-disc SE at the very least.

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11/29/04 at 2:36pm

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Fine, but there's a problem: There are NO DVD-versions of 1492 available, and this is what ticks me off. Sure, I can get the VHS, but even that is not wide-screen.

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11/29/04 at 3:03pm

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It was announced and then postponned without a new date. Charlie de L. has stated he's working on a few Ridley SEs at the moment, and my feelings is that these are Black Rain and another one. 1492 was supposed to have been out sometime in November I believe withouyt any extras, and was rightfully postponned/cancelled. It needs a 2-disc SE at the very least.

For the record, I'm not currently working on either "1492" or "Black Rain" SE. I haven't heard any solid information about either title. But I think they would both be great to do.

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11/29/04 at 3:05pm

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My guess is that Paramount wants to make a Special Edition out of it. Timing it for Kingdom of Heaven would make sense. I would like to have a SE of Black Rain also. The current DVD has a awful transfer.

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11/29/04 at 3:11pm

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I read an interview with an actor from 1492 (I think it was Jack Taylor) who had a role in the film that was completely cut out. He mentioned his experience on the film in the OBSESSION-THE FILMS OF JESS FRANCO book. Aside from saying what a nice guy Ridley was, the main point of interest in his interview was where he mentioned the length of Ridley's original cut. The film was originally much longer - by at least an hour or two - and was apparently trimmed down substantially for its final release version. I'd always had the impression that there was some stuff missing from the final film (given the choppiness of a couple of scenes) and if this was the case it'd be a shame if they didn't attempt some sort of longer cut for a S.E DVD. (If they can restore LEGEND, why not 1492?).

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4/6/05 at 12:24am

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Hate to beat a dead horse, but this was one SE what I was really looking forward to more than is healthy. Why was this only released in R2 and R5? Would it really be too much to ask for a few copies printed in R1? And for those of you who got this release in another region, exactly how much coolness are we missing out on?

Cheers.

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4/6/05 at 1:34am

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Was there only one running time ever for this film? I saw it in the theater opening night, and then eventually on VHS years back, and I remember that the VHS version seemed much shorter to me.

I almost think I saw some scenes in the theater that were missing on VHS. Probably just dreaming or something.

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4/6/05 at 9:48am

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I had a S-VHS copy (widescreen), made off the mixing board for the THX LD. Best sounding soundtrack experience I've had too this day. The S-VHS THX scenes from the ambush in Forrest Gump & the tiger in Apocalypse Now, although powerful, did not have the openness of 1492. Also, enjoyed the look & feel of the film. Would love too see a great transfer (sound & visuals) on HD.

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4/6/05 at 12:27pm

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Regarding Black Rain SE: Black Rain was on the list of HD DVD titles to be announced by Paramount. I can't imagine they'll put out an SE of Black Rain at all on DVD. I could guess that 1492 might go that same route but I don't remember it being on the list. If so then I would consider it delayed until then IMHO.

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5/22/05 at 6:21pm

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A soft *bump* to this thread, since we're talking about BLADE RUNNER again.

Any news on 1492?

Anything at all?

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5/23/05 at 8:52am

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The film was originally much longer - by at least an hour or two - and was apparently trimmed down substantially for its final release version. I'd always had the impression that there was some stuff missing from the final film (given the choppiness of a couple of scenes) and if this was the case it'd be a shame if they didn't attempt some sort of longer cut for a S.E DVD. (If they can restore LEGEND, why not 1492?).

Many of the international DVDs are longer and feature several scenes trimmed from the U.S. release. The Aussie disc I have is, I believe, about 8 mins. longer once you factor in the PAL speed-up issue. They could certainly release this longer version if nothing else, but last I heard, Paramount only had it "on the drawing board" when listing a group of their 2005 titles, and I've seen nothing since sadly.

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5/23/05 at 3:04pm

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Fine, but there's a problem: There are NO DVD-versions of 1492 available, and this is what ticks me off. Sure, I can get the VHS, but even that is not wide-screen.

Actually it's been out on dvd in Korea since early 2003. Pretty cheap too.

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1/5/07 at 10:15am

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Re: What happened to 1492:Conquest of Paradise DVD?

Bump.... I'd have loved to see this on DVD, but now it may as well be HD-DVD. I guess they "missed the boat" on this movie.

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8/14/09 at 1:57am

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This is getting beyond ridiculous. I have no clue as to why there has never been a DVD release in North America. I enjoyed this at the theater back in 1992 and would love to buy a decent DVD or Blu-ray of the film. Every other edition released in other parts of the globe has been disappointing with an average video/audio transfer.

Not sure why Ridley Scott has never pampered his work here like his other films, but I hope it happens soon because he is personally burying this film in the States, I think many viewers here have forgotten this film.

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8/14/09 at 6:36am

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I think it would be a wonderful film for Criterion to tackle. Either way, I hope Ridley decides to contribute to the DVD and consider a Director's Cut like the rest of his films.

This film has been ignored and forgotten for too long. Perhaps Mr. Lauzirika can help get the ball rolling on a DVD/Blu-Ray?

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8/14/09 at 4:09pm

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Originally Posted by MLamarre

I think it would be a wonderful film for Criterion to tackle. Either way, I hope Ridley decides to contribute to the DVD and consider a Director's Cut like the rest of his films.

This film has been ignored and forgotten for too long. Perhaps Mr. Lauzirika can help get the ball rolling on a DVD/Blu-Ray?

I doubt we see a Criterion edition, though without question I am in total agreement that it would be a wonderful film for Criterion to tackle. I have bought and sold off over the years the France R2, Russian R2, German R2, UK R2, and the Aussie R4 (has the same German R2 video transfer), all with just ok video/audio, the Aussie version has some nice extras. I decided to stick with the Japanese R2 DVD since I am from the States and I like the video/audio on the disc. If they just put out a respectable edition with a solid video/audio transfer, I have never been a big extras person, that would be fine until Ridley can design his vision for the rumored Director's Cut.

Somebody in the Scott camp needs to step it up and get this movie a DVD/Blu-ray edition and work on the Director's Cut in the future. I don't get why the director would completely overlook this wonderful body of work this long for a DVD release. By not having it available for public viewing he is just burying his own film.

Get this one released guys....

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8/15/09 at 9:05pm

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Remember, Scott was approached to do an extended version, possibly for an HBO miniseries broadcast. I'm pretty keen on a 1492 DVD, myself, but I have faith that our patience will be rewarded.

Scott is very busy right now filming Robin Hood and he has Brave New World and Alien 5 shooting immediately afterwards. As soon as his schedule eases up he might revisit a few more titles. If any director consistantly delivers extended versions of his films, it's Sir Ridley.

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8/17/09 at 2:50pm

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Ridley Scott is definitely a very busy man right now, still I'd settle for a theatrical edition on DVD or Blu-ray while we wait for the Director's Cut. I don't understand why this is absent here in the States on DVD, this has never been explained.

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8/17/09 at 5:59pm

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I'm just gonna buy the Korean DVD as an interim until Charlie and Rid can create a multi-disc DVD/Blu-ray release of this.
Perhaps with seamless branching?

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8/17/09 at 7:12pm

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I'm just gonna buy the Korean DVD as an interim until Charlie and Rid can create a multi-disc DVD/Blu-ray release of this.
Perhaps with seamless branching?

I read a customer review online of that disc, the Korean edition has huge compression issues (block noise), it's also on a single layer disc and not dual-layer, cheap quality. Avoid at all costs if it's the edition that says "1492: Chistophe Colomb" on it (the cover was taken from the respectable R2 France edition) as well as the one with the Armand Assante cover. A big reason why the States needs a theatrical DVD, so people don't buy those R0 inferior editions because they have no other options.

The best editions of 1492 across the globe are the NTSC Japanese R2 DVD, PAL German R2, France R2, Aussie R0 edition (has same video transfer as German R2). There was a Brazil definitive edition that had a couple extras but the video quality was very soft and they totally screwed up the transfer (looks like it was synced from a DVD player via analog cables and not progressive).

Hopefully we will see a respectable edition come out of the States one day.

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8/17/09 at 7:30pm

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I read a customer review online of that disc, the Korean edition has huge compression issues (block noise), it's also on a single layer disc and not dual-layer, cheap quality. Avoid at all costs if it's the edition that says "1492: Chistophe Colomb" on it (the cover was taken from the respectable R2 France edition) as well as the one with the Armand Assante cover. A big reason why the States needs a theatrical DVD fast, so people don't buy those inferior editions because they have no other choice.

Well shit, it's only $2.70 on k2dvd.com so I wouldn't mind. I'd be more irritated if a release was more expensive which I purchased which was on a DVD5 for such a long film.
My Blu-ray DEESC player arrived last Wednesday and after Robin Hood is released, I'd expect a dual released DVD/BD. I know everyone would love a commentary from Ridley Scott and perhaps with Gérard Depardieu. Seamless branching, isolated score and a second disc devoted entirely to the making of the film would be nice.
The Japanese LAZORDEESC (Oh I'm so very funny...) is 6 minutes longer and I think has an audio commentary.
Strange thing is I swear I saw this at Circuit City in 2005 or earlier and was going to buy the DVD. I had another title but dammit I should've purchased both.

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8/17/09 at 7:45pm

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Originally Posted by Ray_R

Well shit, it's only $2.70 on k2dvd.com so I wouldn't mind. I'd be more irritated if a release was more expensive which I purchased which was on a DVD5 for such a long film.
My Blu-ray DEESC player arrived last Wednesday and after Robin Hood is released, I'd expect a dual released DVD/BD. I know everyone would love a commentary from Ridley Scott and perhaps with Gérard Depardieu. Seamless branching, isolated score and a second disc devoted entirely to the making of the film would be nice.
The Japanese LAZORDEESC (Oh I'm so very funny...) is 6 minutes longer and I think has an audio commentary.
Strange thing is I swear I saw this at Circuit City in 2005 or earlier and was going to buy the DVD. I had another title but dammit I should've purchased both.

$2.70 is about rental price, so that's a fair deal. A poster here mentioned Criterion picking the film up, I don't see it but they make some odd choices so maybe. Would love a nice sit down interview with Scott and Depardieu on making the film, casting etc, maybe even Sigourney Weaver who has worked in other films with Depardieu could comment.

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8/21/09 at 3:31pm

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Originally Posted by PaulP

It was announced and then postponned without a new date. Charlie de L. has stated he's working on a few Ridley SEs at the moment, and my feelings is that these are Black Rain and another one. 1492 was supposed to have been out sometime in November I believe withouyt any extras, and was rightfully postponned/cancelled. It needs a 2-disc SE at the very least.

Well around 5 years has passed us by and that 2004 bare bones DVD sounds pretty good to me right now!

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