THE WIRE season 3 (ongoing thread) (SPOILERS!)

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11/24/04 at 12:29pm

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do you all think brianna knows something is up with string and avon? the way she looked at string when she left the room was chilling.

something is definitely up with the foreshadowing presented when string told davis that he gave him money for his campaign. is this going to be part of the focus needed to get the feds on the case?

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11/24/04 at 12:40pm

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I think Brianna has basically put it all together. Now, what will she do about it?

I think that Davis is going to get a taste of how things work on the street. I think Stringer is going to flex some of his muscle.

I wonder what Avon is going to do. He seems to be somewhat cowed by Stringer and pressure is going to come down from their consortium to end the Marlo war for the corners.

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11/24/04 at 2:27pm

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I am very interested in how the Davis storyline plays out. It reminds me of the Vatican Bank plot in Godfather III (try to go legit and all you find is a different breed of crook). Even the toughest gangster is vulnerable when he reaches for legitimacy.

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I wonder what Avon is going to do. He seems to be somewhat cowed by Stringer and pressure is going to come down from their consortium to end the Marlo war for the corners.

A lot of gangster movies have covered similar conflicts. It's always the "street" guy who loses (Godfather II, Once Upon a Time in America).

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11/28/04 at 7:06pm

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It's always the "street" guy who loses

True. However, in real life, it can be the other way around: Gotti, Capone, Accardo, etc.

Great episode tonight. I'm not sure why Mouzone is hunting up Omar. I think there will be a twist in there with the way it plays out.

That fleeting shot of Rawls in the gay bar was priceless. It was also great to see Freamon out on the street.

It looks like there's going to be alot of action in these last two episodes. This season has a different feel than the last two in that the earlier seasons had a clear conclusion to the cases at hand whereas with this one, it seems that the real progress is only beginning.

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11/28/04 at 7:19pm

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whew this was a good episode. i lost some of the dialogue with freamon selling the phones. dang. i have to watch again tomorrow night. i think brother is not after omar per se. i think he wants to know who sent him. for some reason it seems the writers are trying to give us hints about kima and mcnutty. in season 1 was it revealed that rhonda had something with phelan? i remember something to that effect but it doesnt seem like daniels is too happy about the showing of the legs.

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11/29/04 at 9:46am

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Phelan's always had a crush on Rhonda. I remember in season one, she was getting the same extra treatment when she was in his office with McNulty.

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Hey kid you got no class. Hit the bums, kid. Run like the devil. Get a tin can and take up mooching. Knock on back doors for a nickel.
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11/29/04 at 4:01pm

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I'm not sure why Mouzone is hunting up Omar.

Mouzone had come to Baltimore to find and kill Omar last season, but that was interrupted when someone shot Mouzone. Mouzone had been contracted by Stringer. Last night Mouzone said he had come back to finish the job he started hefore.

With only two episodes left this season, there is going to be a lot left open for a fourth season.

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11/29/04 at 4:16pm

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Mouzone had come to Baltimore to find and kill Omar last season

Not quite. Brother Mouzone's first trip to Baltimore had nothing to do with Omar. He went at Avon's request to fight off rival dealers (notably Proposition Joe) who were taking the Barksdale trade because their product was superior. At the time, however, Stringer was trying to strike a deal with Prop Joe, and he convinces Omar that it was Brother Mouzone who killed Omar's lover (Brandon). So the very first time Brother Mouzone encounters Omar is in the scene replayed before last night's episode, when Omar comes crashing into his room and shoots him.

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but that was interrupted when someone shot Mouzone

Namely, Omar.

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Last night Mouzone said he had come back to finish the job he started hefore.

In the hospital, Mouzone told Stringer that he deems all business with Barksdale to be concluded. The "job" he's returned to Baltimore to finish is revenge. But like Todd T., I doubt that Mouzone is searching for Omar to kill him. Mouzone knows he was set up ("You got some bad information!"). Now he wants to know who set him up.

With Brother Mouzone, Brianna and Prop Joe all bearing down on him, no wonder Stringer's pacing and smoking.

But the best exchange of last night's episode still has to be after Bunny Colvin has come clean with the brass and they've retreated to a private room. Rawls acknowledging that Bunny's plan was a "brilliant" way to achieve just what Rawls had been demanding -- "Too bad it's gonna end our careers!" -- was priceless.

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11/29/04 at 4:30pm

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the ongoing debate with wireheads is about rawls in the gay club. is rawls really gay or was that just a little tease from the writers to us wireheads? give us something to chuckle about?

also, how long does it take to smoke a ciggy and want another one? i counted about ten cigs by omar's feet. trying to figure how long he was waiting outside the funeral parlor.

is there chemistry between kima and mcnutty or what?

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11/29/04 at 4:31pm

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also, what was the dialogue with freamon when he went undercover? i completely missed that. hopefully i can stay up long enough to catch the replay tonight. trying to fill in all the gaps.

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11/29/04 at 4:38pm

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also, what was the dialogue with freamon when he went undercover? i completely missed that. hopefully i can stay up long enough to catch the replay tonight. trying to fill in all the gaps.

Freamon is trying to get an in as the source for burners [which will have the taps set up before he provides them]. He tried to convince them of his bona fides as a hustler by demonstrating how he had run a scam at airports where was able to spy on people's dialing patterns without being detected. He the kid who purchased the phones dial a random number while he had his back to him, then recited the number he had just dialed back to him.

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11/29/04 at 4:40pm

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aight, i definitely have to see it again. what was the purpose of him reciting the number back to him? did someone feed freamon the info from afar or something?

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11/29/04 at 5:33pm

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it was to prove to the kid that he really was a hustler. if he couldn't do it, then the kid would suspect him of not being who he claimed he was, namely, that instead he was an undercover cop. freamon faked a conversation like he was on a phone while the kid dialed next to him, similar to how the operation would work at a bank of phones in the airport. the hustler would hang at the phones pretending to be talking to someone, but really would be stealing numbers.

it's been pretty well established that omar scopes out his situations very well before he makes his move. i wouldn't be surprised that he had been waiting there for hours to catch a glimpse of stringer.

rawls in the gay bar was a riot. i about did a double-take. and he seemed pretty into the conversation with whoever he was sitting with. but you gotta know that this seemingly random event will hold future repercussions somewhere down the road. the key to getting prez off the hook?

i think the last episode has stringer feeling pretty good about having gotten rid of avon(he pulled a tony soprano and ratted him out on a parole violation) when up pops brother mouzone. i don't know where they go from there, as daniels has already told mcnulty he's as good as finished with the crime unit.

little subtle interaction there when daniels says to mcnulty, "everyone who gets in your way is a piece of shit", with the camera switching from daniels to mcnulty to rhonda. meaning daniels now blocking mcnulty's access there. and mcnulty, "point taken".

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11/29/04 at 5:43pm

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My favorite line from the last episode was when they found out that Stringer had called the Western District and someone says "Maybe he's turning himself in." McNulty responds,"He'd better not!I'd never forgive him!"

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11/30/04 at 6:30am

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Something tells me Mouzone and Omar might team up in some fashion. When Mouzone asked if Omar was working for Barksdale, there was clearly a current of hatred in his voice as he spoke the Barksdale name. And Omar can no longer live with the Barksdales at any level after the incident with his grandmother, breaking the Sunday peace. If those two talk first instead of shoot first, which the previews seem to indicate, that could really leave the B&B franchise in trouble.

This message ends with Todd.

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11/30/04 at 10:27am

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Colvin's lecture to Carver reminded me of the scene where Kima told Herc and Carver that Police were only as good as their informants. Carver replied that busting heads was all that was needed. Now he has to learn the hard way.

The compstat meeting was my favorite scene. Watching their reactions during and after the meeting was priceless. The mayor sounded very interested in the 14% drop as well. It will be interesting to see how they handle this mess.

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11/30/04 at 10:51am

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The way Colvin handled everything was brilliant.

Herc and Carver still haven't figured it out. Carver might - it sounded like Colvin's words got through to him. I'm not sure Herc ever will.

This message ends with Todd.

Hey kid you got no class. Hit the bums, kid. Run like the devil. Get a tin can and take up mooching. Knock on back doors for a nickel.
Tell them your story. Make \'em weep. You could have been a meat-eater, kid. But you didn\'t listen to me when I laid it down.
Stay off...

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12/12/04 at 6:04pm

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Omar and Brother Mouzone sizing each other up as the show begins. Awesome. Sorry, couldn't wait!

EDIT: Holy crap on a crap cracker crap. Unbelievable episode. I did not see Stringer happening, not the way it went down - just as everything is coming together.

This message ends with Todd.

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Tell them your story. Make \'em weep. You could have been a meat-eater, kid. But you didn\'t listen to me when I laid it down.
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12/12/04 at 7:01pm

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DAMN!!!! He was one of my favorites. Can't believe he didn't see it coming.

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12/12/04 at 7:19pm

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whew!!! that was a powerful episode. i have to see it again to believe it. omg! from the minute it came on til the end of the previews.

who was kima kissing in the preview?
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it wasnt cheryl. looked like a man.

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12/12/04 at 7:22pm

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james, i think he saw it coming. you see his reaction when he told avon what time he was gonna be there? that minute he thought something was up. i loved the boxing then switching to avon and stringer like it was some foreshadowing. good googgamooga i love this show.

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12/12/04 at 7:46pm

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The Avon/Stringer meeting started off like good ole times. When Avon asked about the meeting time it sounded so out of place coming from him and Stringer picked up on that. The demeanor of both of them changed from that point on. The hug at the end seemed like they both knew that was the end. What surprised me was that Stringer went to the meeting. Did he feel that the muscle he had with him would suffice or did not really believe Avon would give him up or order a hit?

I'm really sad to see Stringer go. I enjoyed his character and thought Idris Elba did an excellent job.

Oh well, back to square one for the Police.

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12/12/04 at 7:59pm

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I think he saw something coming - but not Omar and Mouzone. Those two don't operate in the same way as the run-of-the-mill street thugs. Perhaps Stringer thought he was safe at that moment?

This message ends with Todd.

Hey kid you got no class. Hit the bums, kid. Run like the devil. Get a tin can and take up mooching. Knock on back doors for a nickel.
Tell them your story. Make \'em weep. You could have been a meat-eater, kid. But you didn\'t listen to me when I laid it down.
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12/12/04 at 8:15pm

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but who was kima kissing in the preview? dang.

i know i have said this before, but this was THE best episode ever.

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12/12/04 at 9:09pm

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but who was kima kissing in the preview?

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McNulty??? Maybe he blew off his booty call for her. He and Kima have had a certain chemistry going throught out this season. They seem to have a lot in common.

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12/12/04 at 9:11pm

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but who was kima kissing in the preview?

It was a woman. And not her recently pregnant partner.

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12/12/04 at 9:45pm

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michael, you sure? it was a slender person. it wasnt mcnulty.

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12/12/04 at 10:10pm

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you sure?

Very. Freeze-frame is one of TiVo's many advantages.

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12/13/04 at 5:11am

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I didn't see the previews originally, McNulty was just a guess. After watching the west coast feed it definitely was not McNulty. I believe the person Kima was kissing had large hoop earrings.

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12/13/04 at 5:16am

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dang. i wont have my tivo until next year. shoot. i will watch it again tonight. this is one show where you have to pay attention to every single detail.

like when brother told omar that he was going through the front door for a change. classic!

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