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8/18/04 at 5:55pm
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Warning: ALF Season 1 cut!
8/18/04 at 6:07pm
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Don't forget about Santa Claus.
8/18/04 at 7:04pm
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| besides from the horrible packaging and the cut episodes, they did a great job |
That reminds me of a comment I once saw at the feedback section of an Amazon.com seller's page:
Rating 4/5. Comment: DVD was a bootleg, but it plays great and was delivered quickly. Recommended!
8/19/04 at 6:10am
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Rating 4/5. Comment: DVD was a bootleg, but it plays great and was delivered quickly. Recommended! |
Regards,
Ken McAlinden
Livonia, MI USA
8/19/04 at 7:43am
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Lions Gate finally gave me a response, but it looks exactly like what they told Gord (and then asked him to remove from his site):
I find it hard to believe that all those people involved with the original show knowingly put out DVDs with edited episodes. This is unlike the Combat! brouhaha, because those were done without the original producers and those episodes at least were intact, even if time-compressed.
Hopefully, Gord's contacts will come through with a second response that really addresses the issue.
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| Lions Gate is committed to releasing the highest quality DVDs possible and worked closely with the ALF creators and producers to create the DVD set. The set was produced with the syndicated television episodes because the elements allowed for the best visual and audio quality on DVD. Thank you for your interest in the ALF Season One DVD. |
I find it hard to believe that all those people involved with the original show knowingly put out DVDs with edited episodes. This is unlike the Combat! brouhaha, because those were done without the original producers and those episodes at least were intact, even if time-compressed.
Hopefully, Gord's contacts will come through with a second response that really addresses the issue.
8/19/04 at 7:45am
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Yup, that's the same one I got late last night. After speaking with someone at Lions Gate I thought there were actually going to address the issue in the statement.
Gord
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8/19/04 at 8:14am
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| The set was produced with the syndicated television episodes because the elements allowed for the best visual and audio quality on DVD. |
Then common sense says to me, "get the original masters and fix them!"
DUH!
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8/19/04 at 8:16am
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Lions Gate is committed to releasing the highest quality DVDs possible |
Let us know when you start doing that then....because its clearly not being demonstrated now.
8/19/04 at 9:02am
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Seems like a smart move on Lions Gate's part... tell TVShowsonDVD to remove the warning so that they can move as many sets as possible in the first week.
Then finally come back with the same bogus message. That's no way to address false advertising.
Then finally come back with the same bogus message. That's no way to address false advertising.
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8/19/04 at 9:10am
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| The set was produced with the syndicated television episodes because the elements allowed for the best visual and audio quality on DVD. |
As has been mentioned in this thread, Lions Gate have obviously received a lot of negative feedback regarding the DVDs, and this statement is just an additional insult to anybody who paid for a set that Lions Gate calls "complete" (not to mention the wrong running time which further falsely suggests an uncut set). Not surprisingly, this fact is completely neglected in their response.
As for working closely with the producers and ALF creators: I still don't necessarily see a connection between their involvement and the incomplete episodes. Bob Gale was very involved with the DVD release of BTTF, yet he had no idea that Universal screwed up the transfers until it was brought to his attention by upset fans! It seems to me that Lions Gate are just hiding behind the "official names" involved with this set to cover the fact that they rather saved some money than getting it right.
Well, same principle applies to me, too, as far as future ALF releases are concerned: I'll save myself some money.
Chris
8/19/04 at 9:37am
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Oy, vey! Well, this pisses me off. I'm sorry for using that language, but right now I feel so used I could scream. I think I might.
8/19/04 at 10:50am
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I'm sure the originals exist on 1-inch tape and were then transfered to Betacam. They didn't want to spend the money to go back to the 1-inch, which people don't use anymore. All about the money.
8/19/04 at 10:57am
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Translation:
"These DVD's were produced with the elements that provided the best possible video and audio without us spending Dollar one to do any restoration."
"These DVD's were produced with the elements that provided the best possible video and audio without us spending Dollar one to do any restoration."
8/20/04 at 1:45am
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Hmmm.
Well, no sale here.
Thanks for the warning, everyone.
Well, no sale here.
Thanks for the warning, everyone.
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8/20/04 at 2:23am
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Just wrote Lion's Gate today to complain. Has anyone thought of starting a petion on petiononline.com against this relaease or for a re-release of uncut episodes?
8/20/04 at 2:44am
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Gord -
Your review needs a sticky (note,announcement) here and on your website.
Your review needs a sticky (note,announcement) here and on your website.
8/20/04 at 5:33am
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The release of this set is made worse by the fact that the text on the back of the package says this is "the complete" first season.
8/20/04 at 5:53am
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| The release of this set is made worse by the fact that the text on the back of the package says this is "the complete" first season. |
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8/20/04 at 6:12am
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They can weasel out of the wrong "complete" statement, but they can't justify the wrong running time on the cover, which is about 45 minutes more than what you get when you add up the times printed on the disc labels. And 45 minutes is pretty much exactly what's missing.
Chris
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8/20/04 at 6:46am
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| They can weasel out of the wrong "complete" statement, but they can't justify the wrong running time on the cover, which is about 45 minutes more than what you get when you add up the times printed on the disc labels. |
This should allow anyone who has opened the set to return it to the store, which I suggest everyone do.
8/20/04 at 6:50am
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| Just wrote Lion's Gate today to complain. Has anyone thought of starting a petion on petiononline.com against this relaease or for a re-release of uncut episodes? |
but that link you tried to post is not PETITION online .com.
i hope you didnt post that other one on purpose, it is a pop up web site.
8/20/04 at 7:00am
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No that spelling error was not intentionally. I'm not allowed to post links so I didn't check what I wrote. The correct link was petitiononline.com. Sorry for any inconvenience.
8/20/04 at 7:34am
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I considered filing a complaint with the California Attorney General's Consumer division regarding the purposely false advertising of using the word "complete" and using a false running time, but figured someone from California would probably carry more weight. Plus, I didn't actually buy the set, so I had no actual loss (only emotional distress ). So go to it, if someone wants to that has bought and opened the set.
I don't think on-line petitions carry any weight. If everyone sent a well-written, polite letter via snail mail expressing their disappointment in the set and with LGE and that they will not buy the set or future sets if they're not fixed, it would make more of an impact.
). So go to it, if someone wants to that has bought and opened the set.I don't think on-line petitions carry any weight. If everyone sent a well-written, polite letter via snail mail expressing their disappointment in the set and with LGE and that they will not buy the set or future sets if they're not fixed, it would make more of an impact.
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8/20/04 at 8:47am
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There must be something we can do. They cannot be allowed to get away with false advertising.
What an underhanded company. They have Gord remove the news from tvshowsondvd.com so they can come up with a better reason and then they come out with the same reason.
What an underhanded company. They have Gord remove the news from tvshowsondvd.com so they can come up with a better reason and then they come out with the same reason.
8/20/04 at 9:06am
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As Fonzie would say, SIT ON IT LION'S GATE!
8/20/04 at 11:48am
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| Has anyone thought of starting a petion on petiononline.com against this relaease or for a re-release of uncut episodes? |
It won't do anything, who takes online petitions seriously? Thos things can be so easily manipulated its not even funny. What's to stop me making up 100 different names from a hundred different places and signing the petition? Internet petitions to these studios would just be laughed off because they'd have no way of varifying the legitimacy of all of the names you got, and besides given how they've approached this thing so far does anyone really think Lions Gate would be concerned?
8/20/04 at 12:56pm
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| There must be something we can do. They cannot be allowed to get away with false advertising. |
Better Business Bureau? If everyone who purchased the set and is unhappy filed a complaint...
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8/20/04 at 1:27pm
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The UTTER STUPIDITY of LION'S GATE is openly on display.
First off, they release the DVD set with the syndicated episodes on it fully knowing they're going to eat crow when the sets released and then when it is released they release a statement saying that they did this because the original masters were not digitized... and then they pull the news off saying they're going to work on a better excuse, a week later, they return with the same excuse.
It's UTTER STUPIDITY. It's times like these when you think.. "I need to buy a gun."
I smell corruption in business afoot.
First off, they release the DVD set with the syndicated episodes on it fully knowing they're going to eat crow when the sets released and then when it is released they release a statement saying that they did this because the original masters were not digitized... and then they pull the news off saying they're going to work on a better excuse, a week later, they return with the same excuse.
It's UTTER STUPIDITY. It's times like these when you think.. "I need to buy a gun."
I smell corruption in business afoot.
8/20/04 at 1:58pm
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| It's UTTER STUPIDITY. It's times like these when you think.. "I need to buy a gun." |
i have to say, chris, this and the email you sent certainly arent doing anything to help.
8/20/04 at 2:24pm
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| i have to say, chris, this and the email you sent certainly arent doing anything to help. |
Agreed. Chris, please switch to a decaf or something. Sounds like your head's about to explode. That won't accomplish anything.
