When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

More info about the Irwin Allen comics reprint books from the publishers site:

VOYAGE Vol Two is scheduled for Christmas 2009. Also a book called "The Fantasy Worlds Of Irwin Allen".

LAND OF THE GIANTS is coming Feb 2010 complete and in hardcover.

The TIME TUNNEL book is a softvover and features 48 extra pages of material on the show since the comic only had two issues.

No mention of the SPACE FAMILY ROBINSON comics.

Press release link: http://www.hermespress.com/Books/Allen/allen_promo.pdf

Time Tunnel product info link:Hermes Press - Books: TIME TUNNEL: The Complete Series

Also,this Spring/Summer McFarland Books is publishing a softcover version of: Irwin Allen Television Productions, 1964-1970 by Jon Abbott for $39.95.

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

I remember those Viewmasters, Mark.
funny thing is, I just won a Viewmaster pack
of 'CBTS' last week on e-bay...I never had this one before!
when the syndicated stations used to show Voyage, they
would have the bumper at the beginning of the episodes
that said "In Color" only on the 4th season episodes, I never
saw them for any other season, though!
I always wondered if they existed.
I remember that they would also have bumpers in the middle of the show, that would have the logo "VTTBOTS" with a 3rd season end credits style painting of the Flying Sub and Seaview together!
thanks for the interesting information about these books that are coming
out, Bob!
anyone interested in seeing the art for the Voyage comic books can look
at the 'special features' section on s3, v1.
they show an entire(I believe it is the 1st?) issue of it on there, but I'll
tell you one thing, the artist couldn't draw the Seaview(at least in this
issue), for anything!
I guess he just couldn't get a grasp on the proper shape of it, maybe he
wasn't given any good photos of it to study, or only caught brief glimpes
of it on the fuzzy TV's of the day!
among others, that "Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen" book does sound really intriguing!
for those who are curious, here is some more information from the articles
that were in Starlog magazine about 'lost', never produced episodes of
"Voyage":






and by the way, there were three(not two)articles in Starlog in '92,
the first was called "Giant Jellyfish & Time Lost Dinosaurs"(about the
1st season), second article:"Giant Jellyfish & Monster Whales"(about the second season), third article:"Giant Jellyfish & Alien Invaders"(about the
3rd & 4th seasons).

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

My Season 4 Vol 1 dvd set has been shipped! should have it tomorrow or Wednesday hopefully

Shame about you lot thought on having to wait a little longer

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Well, tell us where you ordered it from, man! And be quick about it, or it's away to Davey Jones' Locker with ye!

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Purchased from ebay about 2 weeks back, just had e-mail this morning saying its been shipped. I'm in the UK by the way, i use this seller a lot and usually get dvd sets a week early than release date.

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Well I now have Season 4 Vol 1, came this morning. I'll watch an episode later today.

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And here I thought they'd discontinued the Concorde service...

Harry

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Concorde or not, season 4 is with me now. Just watched Fires of Death, all I can say is excellent, same picture quality as before but just different box the dvds come in.

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People in the UK seem to get one week before the US gets the DVD. This happened to me 3 weeks ago the UK had The Robe I did not. Then one week later on US release date I received my Dvd. David I went back and took a second look. You are right season four ihas the in color before the show. The Flying Sub and Seaveiw together in 3rd Season shown half way The end credits I only see the Seaview from the same art. work. The voice for next week on Voyage sounds like Richard I cannot be sure. There is also during end credits a voice saying on the next Voyage the crew meets Captain Blackbeard. The voice could be the local station voice. The shows were syndicated here in 1987 and are not like SCFI episodes. The first Mr Pem episode at the end credits has the end credits for Captain Blackbeard. With the new Warner on demand DVD we may get CBTS after awhile. They must have thought CBTS would be picked up to have a view master. I have two Time Tunnel the same view master and one for Voyage. Did Voyage have more? I also found at book sale a beat up Voyage hard cover book for kids. I did not buy it. Maybe I should have. I watched these shows when they first aired I was 14 when they ended. They went straight with out a heart beat to our local station for afterschool viewing. Time Tunnel right after airing the last repeat went straight to Prime Time opposite I Dream of Jeanne in the last season of that show. I rewatched every episode of both shows. Sorry to ramble on Voyage Fans.

Mark

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My Concorde comment relates to two posts by JamesC1. In post 993, he stated that he got an email that his VTTBOTS S4V1 had shipped, and this was posted at 8:46 AM EDT on Monday.

Less than 24 hours later he told us in post 996 that his set had arrived. And in between, we were informed that he's in the UK and had purchased the set from an eBayer.

I naturally assumed, perhaps wrongly, that the the eBay source was in the US, since these are Region 1 releases, but now realize that the eBay seller could have also been in the UK and obtained the sets early.

Thus my somewhat humerous remark that it would have had to have flown on a SST to go through two country's postal services and get there that quickly!

Harry
...content to wait a few more days after waiting this long, online...

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Harry the ebay seller is based in the UK at Kings Langley, Hartfordshire. They must receive the dvd sets a week early.

Just watched the Deadly Dolls, ok thats the last one I'm watching today.

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James C1,
quote: "Just watched the Deadly Dolls, ok thats the last one I'm watching today."
....are you sure?
"Cave Of The Dead" is really good, you know.
(mouth-watering , jealous , yes!),
lucky you.

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Overseas customers sometimes get copies early, because mail-order stores are allowed by the studios to ship titles to "deliver on or about the release day". For overseas buyers, stores will ship them out anything up to two weeks before the release date because International Air is "7-10 working days". But it's sometimes faster, sometimes slower.

The studios really do not like stores, of any kind, putting titles out for sale before the stated release date. I have no doubt that most stores already have stock of this set.

You will see that Amazon frequently list titles as "delivery on day of release".

I don;t think that early shipment is actually illegal, but the studios certainly don;t approve of it. The same thing applies to book publishers. One book chain here in the UK was well known for putting books up in it's stores early. This lead to complaints from other stores who complied with the publisher's "guidelines" and complaints from the publishers as well. The stores stopped doing it, they didn;t want to risk their relationship with the publishers.

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Yep, Cave Of The Dead was excellent, also Journey with Fear and Sealed Orders. There was a nice surprise on viewing Sealed Orders.

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I got my copy today from Amazon a day early and while I won't have time to watch until tonight, I was taken aback by the change in packaging. Rather than the two slimline cases in a box like before, this time the packaging is similar to CBS/Paramount's for stuff like "Gunsmoke" etc. I didn't break the seal on it yet so I don't know how the interior packaging is done but this means that the inconsistency in packaging on the shelf will stick out even more than sticking a "4" on the side rather than a picture of Hedison or Basehart. That said, I suppose after a year I should just be more happy that the show has resumed and will be completed but it is a minor irritant when the packaging can't be consistent for neatness of presentation.

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I won’t like that either! But, in a way given the wait, it’s almost like a different series anyway – and consistency in packaging is very secondary to the (near) completion of the series.

For the record, PERRY MASON underwent a similar change in packaging (for the worse) S1 V1 thru S2 V2 were packaged as the earlier VOYAGE volumes – but S3 V1 and 2 are packaged as you describe. UGH!

But, tomorrow’s the “Big Day”… Hope I’m able to find it somewhere in the B&M World!

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I've spent the night blitzing my way through the first six episodes of this set. The first four are to say the least, dreadful. And then, with "Sealed Orders" and "Man Of Many Faces" there is a refreshing jump back to the kind of story more reminscent of S1 and early S2.

I dislike the packaging. This plastic case seems less sturdy than the kind CBS/Paramount uses, and considering that Fox is still using double-sided discs that makes handling of the discs all the more tricky.

"Sealed Orders" contains the "In Color" bumper prior to the episode, the only time this has ever happened with any of the episodes on DVD. The first episode in the set for some odd reason plays the modern Fox Fanfare over the classic "20th Century Fox Television" tag but the subsequent episodes have properly used the classic fanfare.

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It does seem a particularly stupid thing to do. One can;t help but think there's some bean counter who sits in a back room somewhere thinking up ways to annoy people collecting the things.

"Hey, lets change the packaging from slim cases in a slipcase to some Scanavo type multi-disc abomination...nah, that's not enough, it'll still resemble the others when they're on a shelf. Let's change the spine design as well! Yeah! That should do it!"

Then his friend from scheduling walks in: "hey! How's the annoying the buyers going? I bet you didn;t come up with anything as good as my little wheeze of sticking an 18-month delay in between the third and the final season releases! Boy...that was fun. You should have seen 'em twitch every October and February came round with no news"

It really wouldn;t surprise me at all if this wasn;t done as a hook to try and get people to buy the inevitable "Complete Boxset"

Voyage Brick and Mortar Sightings 03/31/2009

Voyage Brick and Mortar Sightings 03/31/2009

FYE has it, albeit for 39.99. I bit the bullet, because I wanted this on release day.

Best Buy does not have it in store (though available at BB.com), however (at least in my area) they have VOYAGE Season 3 both volumes for 19.99 each. Same for S2 and S3 of LOST IN SPACE and both volumes of TIME TUNNEL. So, there’s an opportunity for folks to fill in some missing pieces.

The packaging is just as I feared. Just like the Season 3 volumes of PERRY MASON. The worst sin about this is not so much that they don’t match previous volumes… but that Disc 3 COVERS UP the content notes (on the inside back cover), so you cannot read them without handling and removing the disc. That should NEVER be the case!

It was so for PM S3 V1, but was rectified for S3 V2… but is, unfortunately, the case here.

However, if that is what it takes to complete VOYAGE, I’ll live with it.

Another packaging oddity… There are two illustrations from the later S4 episode “Flaming Ice” on the back cover. This would be part of Season 4 Volume 2. (And one of a hydrofoil that is probably from the early S2 episode “Time Bomb”?) Hopefully, the “Ice” illos indicate that S4 V2 is at least in the works!

Now, to start watching…

MAN OF MANY FACES!!!!!!

Actually the fourth season (1967-68) VOYAGE segment "Man of Many Faces" (29/10/1967) was the first episode set before the cameras in early June 1967 for the new season but somewhat held back in the broadcast line-up. It seemed to be pointing the show in another direction entirely from the basically fantasy premised third season (1966-67) but was not to be.

The first four episodes mentioned "Fires of Death" (17/09/1967), "The Deadly Dolls" (01/10/1967), "Cave of the Dead" (08/10/1967) and "Journey with Fear" (15/10/1967) are very much in keeping with what was previously done in the third season to be sure.

When I first saw "The Deadly Dolls" on its original ABC-TV primetime network telecast I thought it was absolutely nuts! But somehow with the passage of years I have come to enjoy it despite its outrageous eccentricity. Shame on me!

Actually it is (partially) a reworking of "The Wax Men" (05/03/1967) with a very similar idea.

Frankly by comparison I think that overall the second season (1967-68) of THE INVADERS is substantially more respectable than a lot of stuff done on its contemporaries like VOYAGE and LOST IN SPACE during the selfsame television season despite its (misguided) detractors on this discussion forum.

I don't find any SF boring or disinteresting that attempts to be drama on a more seriously adult level!

I will defend THE INVADERS (both seasons) to the hilt and I am NOT the least bit ashamed of this.

There should be a developmental point in maturity and refinement in taste where you have to come away from spaceships, rayguns and Irwin Allen "eye candy" special effects and colourfully flamboyant set designs...which is all just fanciful window dressing!

What actually lies beneath all this (superficial) veneer is what really counts.

Jeff T.

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Jeff T., you come off now as sounding rather two-faced
when it comes to Irwin Allen shows(do you like 'em,
or do you hate 'em)?
based on your above post, it sure sounds like you're a hater!
(which, considering your earlier desire to see this show come out
really surprises me)!
anything to still plug "The Invaders", I guess!
when "The Invaders" came out, you were filled with(shall we say),
rather 'glowing' enthusiasm,(if not downright rabid-ness)....that's fine,
but now, with the 4th season of "Voyage" finally coming, I would think
that there would be a 'celebratory' attitude, but instead we are served
with 'picking apart' all the things about this show that was not "The Invaders"-
(a Quinn Martin production)!
I do like "The Invaders"(as I have both seasons, which I am
enjoying quite alot), but as I said elsewhere(see the "Time Tunnel...should I buy?" topic),
why must every show be brought up for 'COMPARISON' to another one
(ie:"Star Trek" or "The Invaders"),to justify it's worth or existence??
frankly, I'm so sick and tired of that attitude!
I'm glad that there is more than one 'flavor' that occured in 1960's TV!
I am not always in the mood for the rather dry, humorless "Invaders"(In Color!),
sometimes I want something more fun, more colorful(and with possibly a 'paper-
mache' quality)!
and 'Voyage' is definitely multi-faceted in it's expressions...from the serious to
the silly!
I love(at least) the first 3 shows of this season(as well as
"Man Of Many Faces"), "Fatal Cargo" & "Time Lock"....not so much!
but, 'Voyage' is 'Voyage' and I say let it be what it is(or was),
I like ALL of the seasons of this show(they all have many great
episodes to enjoy)!
I'm sure that there is somebody out there who feels the same
way(Irwin Allen's productions haven't been popular for over four decades and garnered well over 1,000 topic replies for nothing) !

Voyage S4 V1 Observations

Voyage S4 V1 Observations

Okay, guys, VOYAGE and THE INVADERS are BOTH GREAT! Now, let’s move on to something more important… Music replacement!

As others have pointed out with “Sealed Orders”, there is also a “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea in Color” intro to “A Time to Die”… and there is an alteration to the opening theme for that episode only!

Starting with “Rescue”, there was a new 4th Season theme. Slowed and brassier with a “freeze frame and sonar screen effect” – and I think every occurrence of this has an “extra drumbeat” or two added to the end for the DVD versions, to replace the words “Brought to you by” on the original soundtracks. TV prints just cut it off or silenced the soundtrack at this point. An alteration like this is understandable, as there are no sponsors or commercials.

But, for some unknown reason “A Time to Die” and ONLY “A Time to Die” has NOT the 4th Season opening, but a remastered version of the theme! It’s basically the “ending theme” with the abovementioned extra drumbeats added to the end!

I know this was not the case for the aired episode, as I have a VHS copy of the original studio print of this episode – and have seen it many times in syndication.

Just thought I’d point that out.

The picture quality is quite good. I never saw nearly as many colors in any airing of “Journey with Fear” – even the look alike aliens are actually colored differently! That never seemed as obvious as it does here.

And you can even read words off the periscope shaft in “Cave of the Dead”, when Nelson looks for the Flying Dutchman!

It reads something like this: (Excuse my hasty transcription)

Manufactured (something) (something) for (something) Bureau of Marine Exploration
(something) Department of Science (something)”

Maybe better eyes and equipment than mine can see more… but I’ve certainly never seen that before!

So, what else did any of you find… good or bad?

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

I like both "Voyage" & "The Invaders", I don't think that I gave any
indication, otherwise!
as the review in DVD Talk(about "The Invaders") stated the point of these late 1960's shows was:
"it's (it is) exuberance, not realism, that's the visual treat here".
same holds true with "Voyage", although I also agree with that review in
it's stating that "The Invaders" was more grounded in real worldism,
(due in no small part to it's on-location, outdoor lensing, something
that is not present in most other shows of this type at the time,
save for some of "Voyage's" early black & white episodes).

Joe Tor, thank you for your observations about the new release,
I have yet to receive mine(I will be picking it up tomorrow, though,
at Fry's for- $ 30.).
I am sure that I will enjoy it(despite the idiocy behind the inconsistant packaging fiasco)!
hopefully(oh, please!), we will not have to wait long for the remaining
set: Season 4, volume 2

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Sounds fascinating Joe. I can't wait to check it all out whenever it gets here.

Harry

THE FOURTH SEASON!!!!!

This is the statement (and there are others like it) I was respectfully (and candidly) responding to in my last message posting. I wasn't the least bit offended by it myself. If you take the time to calmly assimilate it is clear that Jack is (rightly) a fan of VOYAGE's first two seasons very much like myself (both of which I have continually defended and praised).

This issue here is not an indictment against VOYAGE per se but the third and the fourth season episodes which (generally) lasped into farfetched simplistic juvenile level fantasies (albeit there are some notable exceptions in both aforementioned seasons).

There is no way one can reasonably say that something like "The Deadly Dolls" (24/09/1967) is one of the great achievements and maintain credibility and I am not going to even try. Neither am I going to mislead people on just what can expected in the two remaining VOYAGE season four DVD sets. If individuals decide to purchase them then it will be an honest decision on their part.

This brings to mind another point-of-contention that the two online VOYAGE experts Mark Phillips and Mike Bailey literally fall over top of one another lavishing praise on "The Deadly Dolls" while derogating much better efforts like "The Cyborg" (17/01/1965) and "The Mechanical Man" (13/03/1966). I think that should arouse objection much more than anything that I have ever said in this discussion thread.

Incidentally from all indications the AMAZON.COM (U.S.) online sales rank for the just-released VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON FOUR 3-disc set impressively peaked at an outstanding sales rank of 49 well within the top 100.

The remainder of my previous message posting was addressing what was said in an INVADERS discussion thread which I also addressed in a responsible and intelligent manner:

THE INVADERS (Click Here).

Which I might point out was done before I became privy to that excellent DVD TALK online interview conducted with THE INVADERS expert Stephen Bowie.

Pertaining to the objection against comparing rival SF tv series I see nothing wrong with this. Everyone has their own preferred favourites. This is a perfectly natural and important aspect to better understanding (or determining) what makes certain SF genre shows so special.

What makes VOYAGE distinctive from the other Irwin Allen 1960s SF tv series?

What distinguishes THE OUTER LIMITS from STAR TREK?

How is THE INVADERS (literally the new kid on the block during the midway point of the 1966-67 television season) different from its formidable established contemporaries like STAR TREK, LOST IN SPACE and VOYAGE?

Maybe others are passively uninquiring on the topic but certainly not me. I find this subject (or issue) most engaging to be sure.

If you look at earlier comments that I have made in this discussion thread I have previously stated that overall I find the second season of THE INVADERS generally better than either the fourth season of VOYAGE and the third season of LOST IN SPACE which all aired during the 1967-68 television. So in no way can I be considered "two-face" in my viewpoints expressed here.

Lastly, I do agree that is was important to have VOYAGE released on DVD in its entirety. Any opportunity to have a bona fide classic SF tv series (which may not be totally outstanding) should never be taken for granted. For this I extend my heartfelt gratitude to 20th Century-Fox Home Entertainment in making this all possible.

There are a couple of really nice VOYAGE fans here who have magnificently participated in this discussion thread and if I have offended either (or any) of you with my honest and unmaliciously intended opinions expressed I sincerely apologize.

Jeff T.

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Not to mention their aforementioned diss of the magnificent "Hail To The Chief" with its rich depth in guest cast talent and suspenseful plot (and a great end line, perhaps my favorite in the whole series, "We don't know anyone in Norfolk, Virginia anyway!").

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Well, thank you, Jeff... just in case you're counting me among them! :-)

No problem at all! Intelligent disagreement is what this is all about, and I enjoy your postings (as well as THE INVADERS) -- though I must disagree on "Deadly Dolls".

Is it "Serious SF"? No, nor is was it ever intended to be. It was a showcase for Vincent Price (reunited with David Hedison from their "The Fly" days) and some talented and clever puppeteering.

And it was great fun! Fun the likes of which we will never see again.

I'm REALLY glad to see your statistic of a 49 Rank at Amazon. With limited Brick-and-Mortar presence (no Best Buy and with Circuit City kaput), I was concerned over the numbers -- and their possible effect on S4 V2.

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Jeff, it may not be Kipling, but I say bring on the puppets, leprechauns and albino apes!!!


What you need to do is present the apparent absurdity in a rational and scientific manner, that's all. For instance:

"...In this episode one finds the crew of Seaview encountering a sentient, anthropomorphic crustacean..." ("The Lobster Man").

"...A oversized, simian-like cryptid native to the Himalayan region of Tibet matches wits with Admiral Nelson in this episode..." ("The Abominable Snowman")

See?

THE 'COLOUR' PILOT BONUS!!!!!

I still have to pick up my copy of the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON FOUR 3-disc set at a local downtown DVD retail store this Saturday but it has been reported that the special bonus inclusion of the unaired colour pilot "Eleven Days to Zero" (14/09/1964) is disappointingly the selfsame version with the appended second season (1965-66) colour opening main title already released and not something distinctively different at all as we were all anxiously anticipating.

What a letdown! At the very least an original version with the genuine main opening title could have been provided which makes this additional copy pointlessly needless (except for those who didn't bother to purchase the VOYAGE first season, volume one DVD set).

I really didn't voice much of an opinion pertaining to fourth season (1967-68) VOYAGE episode "The Deadly Dolls" (01/10/1967) except that I really didn't care for it when first seen on its original primetime network telecast.

Jeff T.

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So in other words I don't need to waste my time watching this "Bonus" since it's identical to the one included in the S1 supplements?