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When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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The Amazon reviewer that wrote about the image freezing on "Voyage" mentions that he picked up his copy at Wal-Mart. He thought it was a glitch at his local store, but I'm wondering if Wal-Mart is already stocking these for resale--anyone willing to check this out if convenient to them?
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Thanks for the link to the DVDTalk review. Less than a week now and I'm so incredibly excited to get these DVDs. I'll be out of town over the weekend and arrive home Monday night. Tuesday I will be at the store at 10 a.m. to pick up Voyage!

It's funny how after years of being the only one I know who cared in the slightest about the show that I've been able to share the love of Voyage with many other fans. It's almost like vindication that I wasn't the only crazy nut in love with this submarine and it's crew.
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I just picked up my "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" set. Unfortunately someone decided to use "Floating Head" art work instead of the Seaview & Flying Sub art work featured on an ad insert in the package. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I have not watched any episodes yet. I hope there are no glitches.

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Damn, I am jealous. I went poking around to see if anybody around here had the set out early, but no dice. So I'll just have to wait until Tuesday.
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Today is the day when VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA, SEASON 1, VOLUME 1 finally surpasses THE TIME TUNNEL, VOLUME 1 in sales rank on Amazon.com.

VOYAGE is today currently ranked at #142
TIME TUNNEL is at this time ranked at #163 after peaking in its release week at #23.

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Voyage was On longer and definately has more recognition, I told someone at work that both shows were out he immediately remembered Voyage but did not remember Time Tunnel.
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Absolutely. It will be interesting to see what rank the VOYAGE set hits at its highest, compared with the #23 for TIME TUNNEL.

VOYAGE had a long run and was extremely visible, particularly in its Sunday night timeslot. Sunday is traditionally the highest viewing night in terms of audience strength, so there are a lot of people out there who encountered VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA.

Plus it had the benefit of also having been a major motion picture first.

TIME TUNNEL by comparison was just a one-season wonder buried on Friday nights and seldom seen since then. I was amazed that it reached as high as #23 on Amazon's rank.

Harry
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immediately remembered Voyage but did not remember Time Tunnel.

I'm just the opposite but I like both series. I'm looking forward to Voyage more and more since I don't remember much about the series. Now I know why; we were watching other programs during the time Voyage was airing on Sun nights.

Harry, thanks for the Amazon #'s. Interesting info. I'd guess we're both feeling good that TT did well at Amazon

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Found a site posting video clips from the season one release!

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2696542

The first two clips are from the un-aired color pilot "Eleven Days to Zero", the last three are from the special features section (Irwin Allen promo and 2 clips from the 1961 film). Nice intro by IA at Seaview's periscope, but no B&W clips from "Submarine Sunk Here" and others--dang!

The color clips from '11 Days' looks great--best I've seen for "Voyage" in over 25 years.
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Thanks for posting that!! Though I think it just made the pain of waiting five more days a bit tougher.
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-sigh- good ol' flipper disc freeze/pixellation troubles ehh?

Glad I'm holding out for the r2 editions then, which will almost certainly be on either DVD-9's or DVD-10's.

I'm amazed that folks are willing to put up with problem discs - I like DVD because it (should) offer high quality, trouble-free viewing. WOuld people happily put up with other products if they only went wrong occasionaly (well, I guess they do. Windows. :-)

I always return troublesome discs, and never accept scratched ones. If you got them from Amazon, they'll send the replacement before you send back the bad stuff. Several times I've taken the good discs from the two sets to make a troublefree one and sent back the "remains".

These discs are DVD-14's aren't they? I'm betting the problems are on the side with two layers.

It's a weird thing to do. Why not just use a couple more single-siders? What's the obsession with minimising disc numbers. Surely buyers don't care. Clever boxes can be the same size but hold more. Weird.

Roll on the r2 editions...

I can't wait for S3 and S4. I was always a big fan of the episodes with Lobster Men, Leprechauns etc. The cheesier the better!
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The Amazon reviewer that wrote about the image freezing on "Voyage" mentions that he picked up his copy at Wal-Mart. He thought it was a glitch at his local store, but I'm wondering if Wal-Mart is already stocking these for resale--anyone willing to check this out if convenient to them?

I got my copy from Walmart Wednesday night. Not sure if it was a mistake but I grabbed it before they changed their mind. I have looked at 3 so far and they work perfectly so
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DVD-9's are the only discs I've ever had problems with and it was with the Layer change. Never had a problem with any double sided disc and never known any friends or co-workers who ever had either. So I guess I should say no more single siders
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I got my copy from Walmart Wednesday night.

OK, that does it...I'm slipping out from work to check this out for myself.
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Got mine from there last Friday !

And it was Odd they did'nt Have Emergency S2 but had these out.
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DVD-9's are the only discs I've ever had problems with and it was with the Layer change. Never had a problem with any double sided disc and never known any friends or co-workers who ever had either. So I guess I should say no more single siders

But DVD-18's are like having two DVD-9's stuck to each other. BOTH sides have two layers each, therefore they also have layer changes. One per side.

If the Voyage sets are DVD-14's, they have one dual-layer side and one single layer side.

AFAIK the most "reliable" discs are DVD-5's (no layer change and the simplest structure, the most robust). I would have that DVD-9's and 10's come next and are about equal, the 9's being more prone to problems because of their more complex structure/layer change, but only one side to mess up). However 9's are so commonly used that the techniques for making them have had the bugs ironed out.

14's and 18's come a long way after that. Especially 18's.
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Something no one has yet really delved into is the "stereo" option for the sound on the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA discs.

Certainly the show wasn't originally recorded with a stereo soundtrack, so this would obviously have to be some kind of re-created track. I see that the original mono is there as well - a good thing in case the stereo tracks are too phony as to be distracting.

If it's well-done like the STAR TREK episodes, I'll be impressed. If it's just a case of bass in one channel and treble in the other, I'll be looking for the mono track real quick.

Perhaps a member who has the set already can comment on the stereo sound and how well it's done.

Harry
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Harry,

From the DVDtalk review:

"Episodes are offered in both their original mono and a (barely perceptible) stereo remix."

From the Moviezone review:

"The audio is offered in English Dolby Digital Stereo/Mono and Spanish Mono with English/Spanish subtitles. The stereo track is so much better than the usual mono treatment these shows get. It sounds much cleaner; the hiss associated with older television series’ is dampened and the dialogue is plenty clear."
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Yeah - I read both of those, but I guess I was looking for something a little more detailed. "Stereo" implies separation of sound. If the original track is mono, then what's separated? Did they find some long-lost stereo recordings of the score? Is the dialog centered? Or did they do some kind of traveling sound from one side to the other?

I guess I'll find out for myself soon enough, but I thought someone might have done some kind of deeper analysis as to just what was going on here. It's not all that common for an old TV show to get a sound upgrade (unless it's STAR TREK!).

Harry
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A fugitive moves on, through anguished tunnels of time, down dim streets, into dark corners. And each new day offers fear and frustration, tastes of honey and hemlock. But if there is a hazard, there is also hope. - Closing narration to THE FUGITIVE, "Death Is The Door Prize".
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As I recall from the days when I was collecting film and television soundtrack LPs, the "enhanced stereo" recordings were, to my ears less desirable than the original mono recording. I may find that to be the case with the VTTBOTS dvd, but I'm gathering that the stereo effect is in fact quite minimal and may be almost imperceptible when compared to the mono sound.

The fact that the enhanced stereo in this case is considered to be "cleaner" sounding according to one reviewer, has me intrigued and I'll be curious to check this out for myself (perhaps this weekend, if I can find a Wal-Mart in Dallas-Ft. Worth that is selling the set--so far though: 2 Wal-Marts checked, 2 goose eggs).
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Found a set in my Wal-Mart yesterday afternoon. I thought the color pilot looked very good. Will be getting into the series this weekend.
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When I asked a Wal-Mart manager at the second store I checked why no VTTBOTS when others have been purchasing it at stores scattered around the country, she was mighty surprised. She informed me that the penalty to the store is $1000.00 for each day sold prior to official release, per unit sold.

But I'm still miffed that Fort Worth Wal-Marts don't appear to have the set--I even went to a Supercenter. There is nothing like trying to latch on to your 'holy grail' to leave you exasparated when you come up empty handed, that's for sure. And traffic, people and their responses all operate at 1/4 speed...

"Do you have 'Voyage-to-the-Bottom-of-the-Sea' in the stockroom, then? Can you check, please?"


Response: "What was that title again? 'Void' what?"
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I got the set in Friday's mail (and have been unsuccessful in reaching this Forum until now). My question has been answered. The "stereo" track is a rechanneled effort, not unlike those old '60s recordings you mentioned. It's all echoey and phasey, just like something any decent sound processor these days can do. Even many TVs these days have fake surround simulators.

The good news is that the default sound on these discs is the purer mono track. You have to change it with your remote, or go through the "Language Options" to pick English stereo. It's too gimmicky for me - I'll stick to the mono. Did someone say "barely perceptible"?

What I've looked at so far looks great. The black and white images are stunning, though as mentioned, the process shots tend to be a little grainy, but that doesn't detract from the enjoyable viewing experience at all.

The color in the (Un-aired) pilot is also stunning, though I noticed it's a little different from the version I taped from SciFi a few years ago. The title sequence and music are different - the DVD version is just like a standard intro with the Sawtell music, whereas the old tape I have had different music, no announcer, and was integrated into the flow of the action.

The set has three slim cases, one holding each of the three DVDs - so no double slim cases here like in TIME TUNNEL.

Harry
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I tried my two area Wal Marts and came up empty the other day. At this point, I'll just have to suffer through waiting a few more days until the official release.
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Glad I'm not the only one. The worst of it is that tomorrow is a holiday for me and it would afford the opportunity to watch the episodes in peace while my son is in pre-school.
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Remember this post (2 pages and 75 posts ago in this thread!)? Well, all I can say is "I'm sorry", our source was incorrect.

But Time Tunnel fans won't mind, and I'm sure that VttBotS S1,V2 is still going to come...just not in May or June.
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We forgive you David - at least those of us who are avid TIME TUNNEL fans do...

I'm enjoying the VOYAGE set at a slower pace.

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A fugitive moves on, through anguished tunnels of time, down dim streets, into dark corners. And each new day offers fear and frustration, tastes of honey and hemlock. But if there is a hazard, there is also hope. - Closing narration to THE FUGITIVE, "Death Is The Door Prize".
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But Time Tunnel fans won't mind, and I'm sure that VttBotS S1,V2 is still going to come...just not in May or June.


You got that right, Dave I'm a TT fan first, then Voyage. As you said, it's a sure thing that Voyage V2 is coming sooner or later.

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She informed me that the penalty to the store is $1000.00 for each day sold prior to official release, per unit sold.


This is a myth within the industry that will never die. Sometimes the employees actually believe this, since it is a "threat" their managers use to keep them from putting titles out early. It's also reiterated to customers who may be asking to purchase a title early. There has never been a penalty imposed for a streetdate violation -- certainly not against the likes of Wal-mart. No studio would ever punish Wal-mart--they wouldn't have the balls to even give them a warning.

As a means for fair competition, the studios and distributors simply ask that retailers do not sell the product before streetdate. Some distributors may ask their dealers to sign an agreement, verifying they understand the rules. Any "penalty" that has ever been threatened has been either:

(1) The withholding of any co-op advertising credit that may be owed the offending retailer -or-
(2) The delayed shipment of an upcoming-title, so the offending retailer will not be able to sell it on its streetdate, thereby losing sales.

Again, these have been just threats. There has never been a reported case of a retailer actually being penalized. There have, of course, been literally thousands of reported streetdate violations reported to the industry's 800 tip line. The studios set up the 800# as "lip service" to the retailers concerned, while the offenders continue to offend with no penalty ever levied.

On the rare occasion a studio or distributor actually contacts the offending retailer when a tip is called in, it's usually explained away as a "stock-person error" -- "Sorry, he's a new employee and didn't know better". Right. As if a new employee opens a box (clearly labeled "WARNING: STREETDATE SENSITIVE PRODUCT--DO NOT SELL BEFORE ______!!!") and places the title on display without management's instruction.

There is no law broken when a retailer sells a title early; just a breach of a trade "agreement". Retailers have been knowingly violating this agreement for years. Every unit of a title they sell early is a sale their competitor doesn't get. The offending retailers count on these additional sales. The fact that so many people read about "early" releases, then go to these stores to purchase them, proves the point.

If not, would the purchase of these titles have been made at another store, on streetdate? It's too bad that honest stores, playing by the rules, are rewarded with lost sales.

On the other hand, it's understandable that a hardcore fan would want his VTTBOTS as soon as he could get his grubby paws on it!
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Matt,

Thanks for the edification. I'd like to hand the asst. manager at the Wal-Mart I visited a copy of what you wrote. She practically made me feel guilty for asking for a copy of this release several days prior to the official date.
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