"The Dick Van Dyke Show Season 5" -- A Personal Review

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Out of the blue TDvDS interjection / nitpicking item ...........

Antother nitpick from "The Cat Burglar" episode:

Nitpick #39 from this ep. -- There's an obvious gaffe/goof when Laura shouts out to the suspected rifleman who is coming through the bedroom window (turns out to just be Jerry Helper, coming through the window that has NO GLASS at all in it, which was Nitpick #11 from this ep.

) --- Laura shouts to the potential burglar, "Don't shoot! The silver's in the dining room!"

Problem is: The Petrie silver was NOT in the dining room -- and I (Perry Mason) can prove it, Your Honor!

The very next morning, when the police ask Rob if their silver is still in the house, Laura checks under the kitchen sink and pulls out the silver.

Therefore, Laura's previous statement re. the silver was incorrect. (Unless you want to think that Laura was deliberately telling the "crook" a lie, just to throw him off. However, this hypothesis is doubtful, since Laura was so scared when she uttered the previous statement about the silver. Could she have been that quick on her feet in such a stressful moment?)

Mister Burger...Your witness.

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How about this one from Season One's "Who Owes Who What?"

When Mel Cooley enters to listen to the sketch he is wearing regular glasses. But each time they cut to a reaction shot of him sitting down listening, he is suddenly wearing bifocals.

We all know about Mel's receding hairline, but this is the first known case of receding spectacles!

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I had never noticed the musical spectacles, Eric. I'm ashamed.

But I think the "Cat Burglar" ep. has the record for anomalies and subtle gaffes/goofs.

Here's one that has bugged me a trifle -- In the ep. "My Husband Is A Check-Grabber", why is it that Rob & Laura ONLY have a cup of coffee after joining Buddy's party?

I had assumed that the Petries were dining out for DINNER after seeing a play somewhere in NYC. But, evidently, they only went to the restaurant for coffee after the theater.

Doesn't add up, IMO. Any thoughts? Should this be a "true" gaffe or not? (It's a "half a goof" so far IMO.)

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Yesterday as I was in a horrible funk after having to let my cat of 18 years go to the great kitty beyond I was wandering around the Barnes and Noble cause buying books makes me feel better...anyway, I wandered into their DVD section and lo and behold, there sat the elusive Dick Van Dyke Show S.5 set! I haven't seen it for sale in the stores for quite some time! So I purchased it!

I LOVE it! Especially the inclusion of the Emmy Awards clips particularly that one where Elizabeth Montgomery is shown for all of three seconds

But man, Mary's hair!! Wowsa!

I also have watched "The Gunslinger" with the commentary and was quite impressed at how the spouses of the actors and the whole crew were featured in this episode! What a send off!

I've also watched the first two episodes of the season and I have to say that watching this show again did lift my spirits and made me forget, if just for a moment, what had happened with my cat.

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David: I'm sorry for your loss.

I bet the cast and creators of the Van Dyke show (and the producers of the DVD) would be honored by your story.

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David: I'm sorry for your loss.

I bet the cast and creators of the Van Dyke show (and the producers of the DVD) would be honored by your story.

Thanks Mike.

One word of caution to people who may experience the same type of trauma...not a good idea to watch "The Ugliest Dog in the World" - well, the part at the vet anyhow

Speaking of that episode there is a smiliar episode of Bewitched that happens in the Seventh Season "Samantha's Pet Warlock" where one of Samantha's old warlock boyfriends blows into town and decides to make Durwood's life hard. He finds that the dog food client has been told that Durwood's got a dog and when he asks what kind it is both Durwood and Larry mention different breeds and hair colors, at the same time. The client says he would like to see it and so Larry and Durwood go to the pound and find a dog that matches their wacky description! It's really Ashley, the warlock boyfriend, in doggy disguise. And I'd have to say THAT dog was ugiler than the one on the DVDS.

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QUESTION FOR DICK VAN DYKE DVD OWNERS.........

I've been noticing something very odd with respect to almost every one of my discs in the 5 Dick Van Dyke Show season sets put out by Image Ent. in 2003-2004 --- The data side of the discs all have a degree of "cloudiness" or murkiness that I've not encountered with any other DVDs I have.

And, as I said, it's not just 1 or 2 of the 25 Van Dyke discs...it's pretty much every disc (which is "cloudy" to one degree or another).

The discs have been handled with ultra TLC by myself (I always handle my DVDs carefully and store them properly). And none of the discs have any actual scratches on them. It's just kind of an ugly-looking (and completely unremovable) film/cloudiness on the data side. The label sides are perfect however.

Anyway, I'm just wondering if any other DVD-on-DVD owners might have experienced this strange phenomenon re. their V.Dyke discs?

This oddity, btw, does not affect playback in any way. The discs play fine. (At least, so far they have. Knock wood.)

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Hmmm...

I have all five sets and will spot-check them over the weekend and report back, David.

FWIW, I played a few season four episodes lass than a month ago and there was no problem. But, I have to admit, I don't recall looking at the playing surface.

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I have all five sets and will spot-check them over the weekend and report back, David.

Thanks, Gary.

It's the craziest thing, because the 'haziness' has only affected the Van Dyke discs. Must have something to do with the place where Image had the 5 seasons pressed/manufactured.

There's no murkiness on any of my other Image Ent. discs at all, though, including many Twilight Zone volumes.

~shrugs unknowingly~

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There is no cloudiness/murkiness on my S5 set.

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I just checked a half-dozen of my The Dick Van Dyke Show DVDs, and they all looked normal. No noticeable cloudiness or murkiness.

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I checked my Dick Van Dyke sets and for the most part, they are fine. Season 1, 4 and 5 look totally clean. Season 2 is fine except for disc 5. On that disc I do see some unusual, albeit rather small blemishes that look to be under the surface layer coating. Ditto for four of the discs in my season 3 set. I played a bit of the season 2 disc in question and all appears to be well. I agree with you though, David, it is an odd anomaly. Hopefully, it will not present problems down the road. Although if history is any indicator, Image has always been very good about standing behind their product. If it were a lesser company, I might be more concerned.

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Thanks for the feedback guys. I appreciate the input.

One thing I should add.....the "cloudy" nature of the discs cannot be seen easily by merely staring straight DOWN at the disc surface. You need to hold the disc up to the light at an oblique or angled fashion to see what I'm talking about.

When I just stare straight down at the disc surface (sans the proper lighting), the discs look perfectly normal. Can't see a thing wrong for most of the discs. But with the proper lighting, the cloudiness is quite vivid.

I'm getting super nitpicky now, huh? It can't be helped though...it's just the type of stuff I seem to notice that other people don't. It's a curse. Blame my mother.

Another Van Dyke DVD nitpick is the title that Image Entertainment has used for the fourth-season episode "Pinks Pills And Purple Parents". The DVD makers decided to mangle that title pretty badly, with the DVD packaging and the DVD menus claiming the episode is titled "Pink Pills For Purple Patients".

Kind of an odd error. But I'll bet less than 5% of all DVD-on-DVD owners have noticed that error.

And I'd also be willing to bet that over 60% of all of those same V.Dyke DVD owners do indeed have "cloudy" disc bottoms on most of their 25 discs, just the same as I do.

Otherwise, it's one of the most incredible and oddball coincidences re. disc anomalies I have ever encountered (i.e., ONLY my 25 Van Dyke discs are affected, but none of my other 900+ DVDs).

That's almost too weird for words.

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One thing I should add.....the "cloudy" nature of the discs cannot be seen easily by merely staring straight DOWN at the disc surface. You need to hold the disc up to the light at an oblique or angled fashion to see what I'm talking about.

When I just stare straight down at the disc surface (sans the proper lighting), the discs look perfectly normal. Can't see a thing wrong for most of the discs. But with the proper lighting, the cloudiness is quite vivid.

...

And I'd also be willing to bet that over 60% of all of those same V.Dyke DVD owners do indeed have "cloudy" disc bottoms on most of their 25 discs, just the same as I do.

Otherwise, it's one of the most incredible and oddball coincidences re. disc anomalies I have ever encountered (i.e., ONLY my 25 Van Dyke discs are affected, but none of my other 900+ DVDs).

That's almost too weird for words.

You've held each of your 900+ discs "up to the light at an oblique or angled fashion" to check?

Somebody definitely needs to get out a little more...

Maybe Buddy Sorrell is just playing another of his practical jokes!

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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You've held each of your 900+ discs "up to the light at an oblique or angled fashion" to check?

Oh yes. Absolutely. I check every disc that way. (Doesn't everybody?

)

I do that mainly to check for scratches. As mentioned, many times you can't see a disc's scratches or other problems until you perform the official "DVP Oblique Light Test" (patent is pending

).

And, incidentally, I'm positive that my cloudy V.Dyke discs were NOT in their current murky condition in 2003 and 2004....because, as I said, I do check all discs for oddities, and there's no way those discs were like that originally. So, it's a "partly cloudy" condition that has manifested itself in the intervening years, which makes it an even bigger mystery, IMO. ~shrugs~

And if Buddy Sorrell is playing a joke on my discs, he's gonna have a tax man named William Handlebuck visiting him once again in the near future. (That is, if I can get three more people for the seance.)

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David, you are not alone. I see the same weird "clouds" on my discs as well. They aren't throughout the entire disc. Just little splotches here and there. At first glance they almost look like fingerprint-type markings. But they do not wipe off, so that isn't what the problem is. And you do have to hold them up in the light at an angle to see these splotches (for lack of a better word).

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Dave. I think this is something perpetrated by the JFK Conspiracy Theorists. They read your excellent review of Vincent Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History, and have now set out to ruin your Dick Van Dyke DVDs in retaliation. I, of course, have no proof or evidence to support this, but my conjecture and ultimate conclusions should be good enough to convince you this is happening. Beware!!!! There may be more to come.

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David, you are not alone. I see the same weird "clouds" on my discs as well. They aren't throughout the entire disc. Just little splotches here and there. At first glance they almost look like fingerprint-type markings. But they do not wipe off, so that isn't what the problem is. And you do have to hold them up in the light at an angle to see these splotches (for lack of a better word).

Thank you, Gary.

It's kinda nice to know I'm not alone on this thing. (I'm not saying I'm happy you've got "clouds in your Petries", of course....I just mean I'm glad to know it's not just my 25 discs affected.)

Gary, do you have any problem with playback? I've had no problem playing them.

And, yes, the "clouds" are scattered throughout the disc surface, as you mentioned. A disc is never completely covered in the murkiness; just here and there. And on all 25 discs too. It's the dangdest thing I've ever seen.

I wonder if FBI Agent Harry Bond could figure out this mystery? Or, I might have to call Perry in to solve "The Case Of The Cloudy Bottoms". (That's gonna be the next Perry Mason TV-movie I think.)

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Dave. I think this is something perpetrated by the JFK Conspiracy Theorists. They read your excellent review of Vincent Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History, and have now set out to ruin your Dick Van Dyke DVDs in retaliation.

Hi Jeff....and thanks for that huge belly-laugh. Really. I enjoyed your post. And you've characterized the conspiracy theorists to a tee -- i.e., Conjecture = Fact to them.

Just wait till those same plotters see my updated and expanded review of Bugliosi's book (which I've been fine-tuning for several weeks). None of my MTM or LITB DVDs will be safe either. I'll be covered in cloudy bottoms! Oh, the humanities!

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From here on...we should all be referring to DavidVP as "ol' cloudy bottom!"

Kinda makes you sound like a character on McHale's Navy!

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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"Ol' Foggy Bottom" would suffice nicely too, Mike.

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Hey...what happened to my buddy, "DavidVP"?!?!

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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Some sad news...."Herman Glimscher" has passed away. Bill Idelson, who was so memorable as Sally's boyfriend and also found success as a writer for many popular 60s and 70s sitcoms, passed away 12/31/07. The news report I've seen does not list an age or cause of death. He surely was in his mid to upper 80s though given that he was on radio as a child actor back in the early 1930s

Checking his imdb.com page I see he wrote for everyone from Andy Griffith to Get Smart to MASH.

Speaking of TDVDS, both Dick and Mary will be on PBS tomorrow as part of the Pioneers of Television miniseries.

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Some sad news...."Herman Glimscher" has passed away. Bill Idelson, who was so memorable as Sally's boyfriend and also found success as a writer for many popular 60s and 70s sitcoms, passed away 12/31/07. The news report I've seen does not list an age or cause of death. He surely was in his mid to upper 80s though given that he was on radio as a child actor back in the early 1930s

Checking his imdb.com page I see he wrote for everyone from Andy Griffith to Get Smart to MASH.

Speaking of TDVDS, both Dick and Mary will be on PBS tomorrow as part of the Pioneers of Television miniseries.

Steve

God's speed and RIP, Bill. Thanks for all the laughs. (Especially in "Never Bathe on Sunday" and "Dear Sally Rogers.")

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I, too, have the complete set of Dick Van Dyke Show discs. Virtually all are starting to "cloud", as mentioned in previous posts. They still play, so maybe this ultimately will have no adverse impact. Like the rest of you, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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Some sad news...."Herman Glimscher" has passed away. Bill Idelson, who was so memorable as Sally's boyfriend and also found success as a writer for many popular 60s and 70s sitcoms, passed away 12/31/07.
Steve

How sad.

I recently just purchased the Second Season (on sale from Amazon) and just yesterday watched his first appearance on the show.

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I plan to purchase of the Dick Van Dyke Shows when all of the seasons are complete!

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I plan to purchase of the Dick Van Dyke Shows when all of the seasons are complete!

Unless you are complaining that something is missing (which I haven't heard, Jamey)...you should be good to go. $179.99 at amazon.com

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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Some sad news...."Herman Glimscher" has passed away. Bill Idelson, who was so memorable as Sally's boyfriend and also found success as a writer for many popular 60s and 70s sitcoms, passed away 12/31/07. The news report I've seen does not list an age or cause of death. He surely was in his mid to upper 80s though given that he was on radio as a child actor back in the early 1930s

It is with similar sadness I report the death a few days ago of Allan Melvin...a regular character player on TDVDS and other 1960/70s sitcoms: Phil Silvers, All in the Family, Andy Griffith, Gomer Pyle, and, of course, The Brady Bunch (as Sam the Butcher).

His first Dick Van Dyke appearance was as Harrison B. Harding...title character in the episode "Harrison B. Harding Of Camp Crowder, Mo."

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!

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A fine character actor was Allan Melvin. He popped up in about every 60s series you could think of, plus as "Barney Hefner" in many "All In The Family" eps. too.

The best part of the "Harrison B. Harding" episode were these two words:

"You remembered!"

Plus the part when "Evelyn", Harrison's wife, says "All from his face".

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