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Something smells fishy here, Jurassic Park III DD EX but not DTS ES? I would be willing to bet it is ES also. Remember DTS is Steven's Love Child!
Also and this is just my my honest opinion, The matrixed EX and ES are nothing more than the mixer a little more aware of the back rear channel in a mix. I don't think there is really anything magical mystical about an EX mix! Some of my best sounding EX played back DVD's are not so called "EX/ES" releases. So don't be disappointed if the title is not blessed with the EX/ES labels!
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I found this on the JP III review from Widescreenreview.com:
Soundtrack:
The DVD features Dolby® Digital and DTS® Digital Surround™ 5.1 soundtracks, both of which are Surround EX-encoded
(though not credited as such on the DVD jacket).
http://www.widescreenreview.com/newr...jurassic3.html
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JP III changed to reflect DTS-ES...
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Pearl Harbor added, also pending further verification on it's EX status.
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Based on a reply from another thread, I removed Pearl Harbor from the list.
Roger Dressler's reply
I couldn't find any conclusive information in regards to it being in EX.
Sorry for an inconveniences.
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We did a little bit of checking and it turns out it was just an oversight that the French 5.1 track has an EX flag. We have encoders in the field that can set the flag, and it was being used to encode another title with Surround EX, but wasn't reset when it went back into service for the French PH track, and no one noticed., since the existing studio monitor decoder (DP562) doesn't yet read it. Our new handheld bitstream analyzer reads it, and this is what we used to confirm the setting when we found a consumer decoder reporting the flag. The English track does not have the flag, and neither track is encoded in Surround EX. Sorry for the confusion, but at least you can see if your flag detector detects.
Roger Dressler
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Well I watched Pearl harbor in DTS and there wasn't any flag detected.JP III's DTS ES Matrix however was detected and played back in ES Matrix on my Denon 3801.
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"Jurassic Park III" should be the first to "correctly" have the Surround EX decoding flag.
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Hi Gang!
I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me on the rather unusual selections of DTS-ES Discrete movies. I absolutely LOVE the audio format and had planned on buying every title that came out, just because the sound is so darned amazing. Now I see the current list and I am left scratching my head. DTS-ES Discrete, I think, would be considered a "premium" audio format. I have no idea what the associated costs would be to produce a DVD in this format, but I would guess it would be much higher that Dolby Digital or plain DTS. How is it, then, that there are at least four titles on the list that would be considered non-blockbuster titles? I am referring to the titles such as "Opera", "Maniac", "Suspiria" and "Evil Dead". The only one of the four listed above I have seen is "Evil Dead" which was a fun, goofy and gory horror flick. However, this is not the kind of film that I would think of when I think of premium sound format. "Gladiator"? sure. "Seven"? You bet. But I just can't get my head around the reason for having DTS-ES Discrete put on such obscure movies.
Like I said, I am looking for enlightenment on this subject.
Thanks!
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Scott,
I'm not sure if this will help you but, the decision to put DTS ES (or any sound format for that mattter), is one made by the studio producing the DVD (the short of it). Anchor Bay, which produces the DVDs you mentioned, I would assume is a proponent of the DTS Discrete format.
Their movies have somewhat of a cult status and I guess they wanted to provide their relatively small fan base with a nicely loaded DVD.
Now, if only the other studios picked up on this and followed suite, we would see more EX/ES and Discrete sound mixes.
As far as costs incurred, I have not a clue. Maybe you could send a note to Roger Dressler with Dolby Laboratories to see if he could shed some light on the issue.
Enjoy.
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| Jurassic Park III" should be the first to "correctly" have the Surround EX decoding flag. |
Yep,it's the fist time I saw the light come on for the flag on a DD soundtrack.So much for the "you need THX EX to get the proper decoding",if my 3801 can detect the flag,that's all that matter to me,to get EX right,without other post processing!
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Dan,
Not wanting to turn this into a DTS/DD debate my suggestion was just that, a suggestion.
It by no means was meant to deter anyone from any particular format and since I know for a fact that a representative from Dolby Labs actively participates in this forum, I thought it would provide the quickest, most effective way to get answers.
DTS piggy-backed ES from Dolby's EX soundmix. Also, there's usually not a DTS ES track if the DVD doesn't contain a DD EX track first, so Roger would be a very viable source for finding out what someone would need to know about costs in processing both formats.
I hope we can leave it at that. I do respect your opinion and all the input that you've provided for this thread is much appreciated.
Thanks.
Troy
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Great list Troy!
Dan - Dolby actually posts here and beside that Troy makes some excellent points.
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