DD-EX & DTS-ES encoded movies listing

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7/2/01 at 11:56am

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Bump....

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7/2/01 at 2:04pm

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Troy,

On June 28th I posted:

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And another...

Spy Kids
Release Date: September 18, 2001

According to SMR Home Theater Magazine

Paul

The list hasn't been updated to show "Spy_Kids" yet.

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#63

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7/3/01 at 10:51am

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Update..Spy Kids

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7/3/01 at 3:12pm

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Since the official announcement doesn't list audio formats, I would hazard a guess that it will include at least a DTS-ES matrix track like 102 Dalmations.

That's just a hunch coming from Disney's new track record.

Dan

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7/8/01 at 9:08pm

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It seems that DTS isn't always put the "flag" in the bitstream as well[ES Matrix].
I just tried the Bone Collector,and Pitch Black,no "flag".Same goes to 102 Dalmations.
T2 however has it.
The 6 ES discrete titles I own, all has the "flag".
Wonder Why?
As for The Fight Club.
Peter Staddon of Fox said that it was their first DVD with EX,though it wasn't official.

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7/19/01 at 7:03am

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7/19/01 at 8:58am

Dan Hitchman
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Troy,

From all indications, the new DTS-ES discs from Anchor Bay are DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 tracks.

Not sure about The Mexican, but it should have at least a DTS-ES matrix track.

Unbreakable has a DTS-ES matrix track. Disney may not have had an encoder that places flags on the DTS track.

Not that this is an absolute indicator, but Dolby Lab's website does not list The Mexican as a 6.1 movie.

Dan

[Edited last by Dan Hitchman on July 19, 2001 at 11:05 AM]

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7/19/01 at 11:11am

Garry I
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The DTS and DTS ES titles seem to have a flag, but i actually want to see a dolby EX title with a flag. When is that gonna happen

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7/19/01 at 10:21pm

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"The Mexican" is Surround EX-encoded (and also DTS-ES compatible). Gary Rydstrom was the lead re-recording mixer, and he has used Surround EX in every film he's worked on since "Star Wars: Episode I." He's very much in favor of it.

One of the annoying aspects of Surround EX is that it's not always easy to know what films actually used it. It's certainly possible for a post facility to have used it for a certain soundtrack and Dolby or no one else knowing about it. "The Mexican" is one of these films, as was "Hollow Man" and others.

If someone out there can convince me through reputable sources that "The Claim" was Surround EX-encoded, I'd greatly appreciate that.

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7/23/01 at 2:02pm

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Perry,

Thanks for the info (page 1 has been changed to reflect the ES status of The Mexican).

As far as the claim is concerned, I think most of the EX/ES information came from here SMR .

Troy

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7/23/01 at 2:03pm

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Perry,

Thanks for the info (page 1 has been changed to reflect the ES status of The Mexican).

As far as the claim is concerned, I think most of the EX/ES information came from here SMR .

There aren't very many 'reliable' sources for EX/ES information, but they are one on the forefront. The Claim isn't on Dolby's site...

Troy

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7/23/01 at 11:33pm

Lewis Besze
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The DTS and DTS ES titles seem to have a flag, but i actually want to see a
dolby EX title with a flag. When is that gonna happen?

Dolby just released the new encoder for sale that will,insert the flag,on the soundtrack.
Don't know which studio or movie will be the first or when we see it first.

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7/24/01 at 12:55pm

Martin W
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The upcoming german release of The Fifth Element will incorporate an english DTS-ES 6.1-track. It will be released this fall.

That is, if other regions are also welcome on the list...

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7/24/01 at 11:48pm

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"Maniac," "Opera," "Suspiria," "The Beastmaster," "The Stunt Man," "Vigilante," "The Evil Dead," and "Highlander."

These Anchor Bay titles are in the pipeline for DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 tracks!

Dan

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7/28/01 at 8:38am

Dan Hitchman
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You have duplicate entries in the DTS-ES matrix list that are already listed as DTS-ES Discrete 6.1

Chicken Run
Gladiator
The Haunting
Se7en

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Opera in the DTS-ES matrix column is incorrect, it is DTS-ES Discrete 6.1.

Unbreakable and Caveman's Valentine are DTS-ES matrix. Even if the studio doesn't take time to prep an "official" DTS-ES matrix or DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 version, the DTS 5.1 track still will contain the center rear matrix (since they'd be using an EX encoded print master). That's how it is on theatrical DTS-ES matrix soundtracks and they still call it DTS-ES.

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These other Anchor Bay titles are also DTS-ES Discrete 6.1:

Suspiria
Maniac
Bad Taste
The Stunt Man
Vigilante
Highlander: Director's Cut
The Beastmaster
The Evil Dead

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The Mexican may not be DD EX or DTS ES as I have not been able to find any official information on Dolby's website that it was mixed with 6.1 in mind.

Please update this list as some people are getting confused.

Dan

[Edited last by Dan Hitchman on July 28, 2001 at 10:45 AM]

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7/30/01 at 8:52am

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New updates...

Special thanks to Dan Hitchman!

Troy

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7/30/01 at 11:09am

Dan Hitchman
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Troy,

I'm not trying to nit pick, but I think it would be better (and clearer) if those titles in the DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 column were not repeated in the DTS-ES matrix column.

Dan

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8/6/01 at 1:51pm

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Dan,

Thanks for your input. I choose to keep those in these particular categories because the truth is the titles do contain both a Discrete and Matrix DTS soundtrack (as well as the EX soundtrack). No harm done.

Troy

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8/13/01 at 8:10am

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I haven't heard of any more new releases recently.

Anyone else?

Troy

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8/27/01 at 7:06am

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New street date updates...

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8/27/01 at 8:12am

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I believe American Beauty is DTS-ES, not sure of Matrix or discrete though (don't even know the difference actually). I can't confirm that at the moment though.

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9/7/01 at 12:28pm

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Updates are looking slim these days

Anyone else heard of anything?

Troy

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9/8/01 at 10:50am

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The release date for Suspiria should be September 11, not September 1.

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9/12/01 at 12:40am

Kia
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Ive seen a foreign version of Hannibal clearly having the DTS-ES logo on the front of the case at some website. I cant recal what site it was and I've never seen it in person so I cant confirm 100% but I swear seeing the logo.

Wasnt X-Men and/or Hollow Man in some kind of ES/EX matrix or not? And also is Cast Away DTS-ES matrix or discrete?

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9/12/01 at 11:05am

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On Don Henley's - End Of The Innocence
Only the tiltle track is Discrete ES.

If X-Men isn't EX it sure sounds like it.

Cast Away only shows as ES Matrix on my Denon AVR-4802.

[Edited last by Mark F Hall on September 12, 2001 at 01:10 PM]

- Mark

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9/16/01 at 2:35pm

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Great list Troy, glad I did a search and came up with it. I just started using a rear center and am starving for software. I can not wait for Highlander! There can be only one!

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9/26/01 at 9:05am

Troy LaMont
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Looking kinda grim for EX/ES releases on DVD. So far there are some movies that were released theatrically in EX/ES that aren't being released on DVD in EX/ES;

Jurassic Park III
Atlantis
A.I. (although no release information on the DVD is available, it doesn't look to have EX/ES)

Hopefully some of the forthcoming movies released in EX/ES will be released on DVD in EX/ES.

Monsters, Inc. - Release date: November 2, 2001
Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone - Release date: November 16, 2001
Lord Of The Rings - Release date: December 19, 2001
E.T. The Extraterrestrial - Re-release date: March 2002
Star Wars: Episode II - Release date: May 22, 2002
Minority Report - Release date: June 28, 2002

Additional notes

IMDb.com has X-Men listed as Surruound EX?!
Dolby.com has Shrek, Moulin Rouge, The Mummy Returns, and Angel Eyes as Surround EX?!

Troy

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9/26/01 at 10:02am

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New from Anchor Bay's chat:

The Watcher in the Woods (DTS-ES Discrete 6.1)
The Jazz Singer (DTS-ES Discrete 6.1)
Can't Stop the Music (DTS-ES Discrete 6.1)
Bad Taste (DTS-ES Discrete 6.1)

No street date yet though. More to follow.

The Evil Dead (DTS-ES Discrete 6.1) Early 2002.

Dan

P.S. American Beauty was DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1, no EX or ES encoding. Shrek, A.I., E.T., and Jurassic Park III will have DTS-ES of some sort.

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9/27/01 at 8:21am

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Minor updates...

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10/2/01 at 7:48am

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Exciting update... (see first page)!

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