Pierce Brosnan out as Bond? (UPDATE: Daniel Craig confirmed)

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8/4/04 at 6:50am

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Totally agree. As others have mentioned, TPTB should take a hard look at the Bourne movies. This is the direction the Bond films need to move towards.

Heck, maybe they should just do some movies using the actual Bourne stories, since the Bourne movies aren't using them

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8/4/04 at 7:47am

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Bond has to played by a British actor. Would you guys want a Russian playing Superman?

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8/4/04 at 8:34am

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Bond has to played by a British actor.

Connery was Scottish. Are Scots considered British?

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8/4/04 at 9:44am

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And Brosnan is Irish. In fact, only Moore and Dalton were English (Lazenby was also an Aussie).

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8/4/04 at 10:38am

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If you want to get really technical, Dalton was Welsh, with some Italian thrown into the mix.

So the only true Englishman to ever play the role was Roger Moore.

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8/4/04 at 10:52am

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I'm not really into the Bond films, but I feel that Ryan Phillippe would play a very decent Bond and would meet the criteria of what the studios are looking for.

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8/4/04 at 12:16pm

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Phillipe is American and is like 5'4. Not to mention he's not that great of an actor.

That would be a horrible choice IMO.

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8/4/04 at 12:57pm

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Ditto everything that Pete said. Jackie Chan would make a better and more believable Bond that Ryan Phillippe!

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8/4/04 at 4:05pm

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Are Scots considered British?

Yes. Anyone from Scotland is both Scottish & British, just as anyone from England is English & British.

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Bond has to played by a British actor.

Which means Scottish, English or Welsh, not just English, people. As the poster is English, I'm presuming he knows the difference.

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8/4/04 at 9:04pm

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Wasn't Fleming so impressed by Connery that in subsequent books, he added some backstory making Bond part Scottish? With the English accent (as opposed to Scottish, which Connery toned down in the Bond movies) presumably explained by an education in public schools and Oxford?

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8/5/04 at 2:07am

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Still think they should go with this guy, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0700856/

..or at least add him to the list of considerations.

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8/5/04 at 9:05am

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Jackie Chan! Now that was funny

The commonwealth nations would flip if the actor was an American - since they consider the way we talk "uncivilized".

Just for speculation though, some Americans who could pull it off:

Shaq
David Cross
Dubya

Damn, I can't think of anybody.

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8/5/04 at 12:11pm

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I would still be willing to bet the bank that Pierce will be 007 in the next one (if not two more). While there are some good candidates out there (I think Jackman would be the best, Clive Owen would be good, but that would be going back to the Dalton Bond and I don't think that would sell very many tickets) I think most people would be happy with Pierce coming back whether they scale the story down a bit or just have him blowing stuff up.

My hunch is MGM will cough up what he wants. Or whoever buys MGM. Perhaps that is part of the hold up. Maybe they want to get the ownership thing settled before making him an offer/counter-offer. Brosnan is by no means a $25-$50 million dollar a picture actor, but it would still be a very safe bet to pay him what he wants (and I think money is the real factor behind every thing he says about being in or out). The studio will still be rolling in the black regardless of how much they pay him. Also, when asked by a reporter about a month ago at some function in Mexico who should be the next Bond, he look him in the eye and firmly said, "Me."

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8/5/04 at 12:45pm

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What body part could Brosnan break making the next film?

I'd take the geriatric Moore in "A View to a Kill" over old-man Brosnan any day. Good riddence to him.

The character has to carry the movie. If they get somebody who can do that, maybe they can write scripts that aren't just machine guns and explosions.

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8/5/04 at 7:41pm

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My understanding from what I've read is that Brosnan was more interested in a Bond film that is not just all machine guns and blowing things up, he's done that. He'd like to do a Bond that's more about character, that was what I would bet he's trying to get EON to do. He was saying that back when he did Tomorrow Never Dies and stuff like the car chase in the parking garage was boring to him. A Bond that has the girls and cars and less explosions balanced with character would be great. From Russia With Love is still a great movie.

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8/5/04 at 9:26pm

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This is not the first time Brosnan has said he is bidding farewell to Bond. Indeed the Irish actor seems set to rival Sinatra in clocking up farewell performances, yet in the past Bond has kept drawing him back in - even now, the industry is uncertain whether Brosnan has really decided to hang up his gun, or set up a Mexican standoff between himself and Eon Productions, which produces the Bond films.

As recently as May, producer Barbara Broccoli had assured Brosnan that he would star in at least one more Bond movie, saying that Brosnan’s comments about the heavy reliance of the last Bond picture, Die Another Day, on special effects rather than plot will not be held against him.

At least one friend of Brosnan has suggested that it is not money but hurt feelings that have led the actor to declare that the world of Bond is not enough. Brosnan has felt his contribution to revitalising an ailing franchise has been downplayed, and that he has not been given his due for conquering a role that had once been indelibly linked with its originator, Sir Sean Connery.

If Bond is a chameleon, hard to know, aloof and with a history of emotional scars, then Brosnan was born to play him. He is now the epitome of a certain kind of showroom elegance. Yet he was born in some poverty in Navan, Co Meath. Brosnan’s parents separated when he was a baby and he didn’t see his father again until he was 33. Raised by his maternal grandparents from age four to six, he was passed around relatives after their death while his mother trained as a nurse in London.

Brosnan's inner resources seem substantial, and should Bond slip away from him this year, he seems more than able to deal with it. Ten years ago, he was already thinking of a future after the Bondwagon finally rolled by: "I'd like to come out of it all with a career intact, with other strings to my bow - as a producer, maybe a director," he said. "And for professional reasons, I'd really like to keep that licence to kill."

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8/7/04 at 10:52pm

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I love James Bond, but the Broccolis gelled their formula with Goldfinger and have been trying to top each installment since. Bigger is not always better. Best we not see another Bond for five or six years and then not with a younger actor. Meanwhile, if you want to see what a James Bond movie should be, go see either Bourne. Even his initials are JB.

As for Clive Owen, see The Croupier. He should have a shot at Bond, as should Jeremy Northram (see Enigma). But that will never happen, because youth will be served by the money hungry Broccolis. Haven't they made enough already? Give it a rest and then do it right. Neither option will be acceptable to them, though.

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8/11/04 at 5:27am

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Rumors have been circling about Brosnan's continued participation in the series since February of this year when a story "leaked" to the press that MGM had privately fired Brosnan from the role. Generally regarded by most as a trial balloon by the studio to see what the public reaction would be to a change of actor in the Bond franchise, the public's reaction seemed to overwhelmingly support Brosnan. MGM has kept quiet since Brosnan's statements this week but representatives at EON Productions contacted by IGN FilmForce have told us privately that they weren't surprised by the comments in the press. "If the money and some other things are right, Pierce is back but he'll walk if those things don't come together. He's at a place [in his life] where he can do anything he wants and if he never makes another Bond film, he'll be just as happy as he would be if he starred in Bond 21."

Brosnan has been vocal about the quality of the scripts for the films since he took over the role. In an interview with our pals over at CHUD, Brosnan commented that the films were in a rut and that the first 1/3 of Die Another Day should have been the tone for the rest of the film. "...they [the producers] broke out of it too soon into the formulaic, safe side. They're too scared." Brosnan also dropped some clues in that interview that may indicate what he's looking for if he's going to sign a contract for Bond 21. "More of a character-driven piece.... Certainly more of a character-driven piece and what is going to happen next in the story because now we're just saturated ¡V it's wonderful the spectacle they create. It's fantastic. But I love the last one and where it was going ¡V until we got to Hong Kong and I was into the suit and into the old straitjacket of playing [Bond].""

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8/11/04 at 9:53pm

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Yeah Clive Owen really looks the part (He looks alot like a more rugged Lazenby to me) I think he would be a bit more roguish than Bana, but Bana is a better choice than alot of alternatives being mentioned.

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8/12/04 at 1:33am

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Brosnan has been vocal about the quality of the scripts for the films since he took over the role. In an interview with our pals over at CHUD, Brosnan commented that the films were in a rut and that the first 1/3 of Die Another Day should have been the tone for the rest of the film. "...they [the producers] broke out of it too soon into the formulaic, safe side. They're too scared."

Pierce hit the nail on the friggin' head. The opening 1/3 of DaD is the best modern Bond flick ... to bad the later 2/3s is probably the worst.

Bring back Pierce and get a good script and do it right MGM ...

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8/12/04 at 11:48am

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Pierce hit the nail on the friggin' head. The opening 1/3 of DaD is the best modern Bond flick ... to bad the later 2/3s is probably the worst.

Except that Bond looked so out of shape. I never saw someone look so skinny and unfit (a gut even) all at the same time as Brosnan. I guess the script covered for him and we were meant to think prison did that to him. Even my friend who saw it said "They must have fed him well in pretty well in prison; he's kind of fat."

And I never did figure out why he didn't just jump off the waterfall to escape. Harrison Ford would have done it.

First time ever Bond didn't have a contingency plan. Guess he couldn't pack a chute under his clothes under his wetsuit.

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9/13/04 at 5:11pm

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And it seems that Dougray Scott is the next Bond:

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/t...name_page.html

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9/13/04 at 5:56pm

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I'll have to wait for something more official.

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9/13/04 at 8:39pm

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Now that it looks like Sony has it's hands on MGM, there can finally be some movement on the next Bond film. I bet all the uncertainty up till now had to do with the uncertainty of whether MGM would be sold.

I still think Pierce will have one more film to do.

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10/14/04 at 11:01am

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It would appear not :

CommanderBond.Net reports that Pierce Brosnan has confirmed that not only is he not going to return to the role of James Bond, but he was in fact fired from the part. The Irish-American actor revealed all this week in Nassau to promote his latest film, "After the Sunset".

"It's over, it's over, it's absolutely over. They invited me back right before I went to present that film. We're so happy with the success, we want you to come back!' I went on the road as a happy man, you know. I thought we'd get a fifth and no more. That would be it, really." said Brosnan.

"Then one day the phone rang - I was here (in Nassau shooting After the Sunset) - and my agents told me that the goal posts had moved and that they had changed their minds. It was disappointing. It was surprising. And I accepted the knowledge (that his run as 007 was over for good) after 24 hours of being in shock" he continued.

Brosnan claimed he harbours no bitterness though. "None, none, none! It's not worth having. If I did, it would make all the great decade, the four films, the lovely success, meaningless. Bitterness against whom, and for what reason?".

Absolutely inexplicable. They'll have a hard job replacing him.

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10/14/04 at 12:23pm

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I'm not sure I really believe that. I think the ball is still in Brosnan's court. I think if After the Sunset is a big hit, he may forget about doing Bond. If it flops or only does average business, I bet he will be back. I also think Pierce has been waiting for the MGM sale to be completed to see who he will be dealing with in terms of getting his pay bumped.

My prediction: Pierce will definetly do one more, if not two more.

Sucks we have to wait until 2006 for the next one.

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10/14/04 at 2:07pm

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I know it has been brought up once before, but man I wish MGM would take the risk and let QT take a swing at the movie. Setting in its original time period, a rough and touble take without all of the excessive gadgets and a more character focused bit would be great. If any director can do a successful homage to a bygone style of movie, QT is the one. If he doesn't, he and Brosnan (who I hear was rumored to like that idea) should go off and do an "Our Man Flint" like parody/homage type spy movie on their own. I wouldn't put it past QT to do this anyway when he does his next movie in 2010 or however long it takes him to get back behind the camera.

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10/14/04 at 3:48pm

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Brosnan was always week as were the films he was in. We need new writers and creative people behind the scenes.
Bring on Clive Owen.

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11/2/04 at 3:53am

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Apparently, Brosnan's choice is Farrell. Also, the possibility of a QT-helmed Casino Royale is still open, Brosnan included.

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11/2/04 at 7:03am

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It would be cool to see a QT/Brsonan Casino Royale, but I doubt something like that could happen. Perhaps if there was enough public interest to convince the Broccolli family and Eon or even Sony to do it with Brosnan. Eon owns the rights to Casino Royale I would think and QT would have to pull off the same kind of situation that was done for Never Say Never Again with Sean Connery so that an independant Bond film was made at the same time the "Official" ones where made. I would think it was possible and it could pull in the same kinds of audience numbers to rival the "Official" one. That would be good competition. I just read Casino Royale and if done following the book, it would be pretty cool and not rely on massive effects or gadgets. It could be a simple thriller and smaller then the recent Eon films. As written, Catherine Zita-Jones fits the bill as the female lead.

Too bad Brosnan's turn as Bond ended somewhat abruptly, but he did fullfill his contract and he's said he is happy with his turn. He was asked to do a 5th, but for some reason, they decided to change their minds. Seems fair enough, but unfortunate.

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