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THE BREAKING POINT (Warner, 1950)

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With the recent release of To Have and Have Not in mind, when will Warner release The Breaking Point, the even better interpretation of the same story, from the vaults? John Garfield plays Captain Harry Morgan to perfection in what would be one of his best and final performances. Never available on home video, The Breaking Point shows up on TCM or Cinemax from time to time.

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Never heard anything on this, but I feel it's one of the underrated gems of the fifties. There's an added sense of poignancy and loss viewing this film, along with Garfield's last He Ran All the Way, that comes with the knowledge of the sad fate that would soon befall the actor.

What are the chances of WB eventually shining their "Signature Collection" light on their forgotten "tough guy"? Perhaps we could see that set include a mix of Garfield's better solo material as well as his stellar ensemble work. Perhaps five or so of these titles:

Four Daughters (1938)
Daughters Courageous (1939)
Dust Be My Destiny (1939)
Saturday's Children (1940)
Castle on the Hudson (1940)
The Sea Wolf (1941)
Out of the Fog (1941)
Tortilla Flat (1942)
The Fallen Sparrow (1943)
Pride of the Marines (1945)
The Breaking Point (1950)
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Jon,
I think Warner is eventually going to release a boxset of Garfield, but probably not before Cagney, Bogart, Flynn, Davis and Gable.
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John Garfield probably isn't well enough known to the general consumer to warrant a "Signature Collection" right away. However he was certainly a great actor. I believe TCM did a documentary on him in the last year or so. Perhaps that could be an extra if any of his films ever do surface (which they hopefully will).

I'll confess I don't know much about him myself.

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However he was certainly a great actor. I believe TCM did a documentary on him in the last year or so. Perhaps that could be an extra if any of his films ever do surface (which they hopefully will).

Yes, TCM did a documentary on him that probably will be part of a dvd release of his films. I think George Feltenstein was involved with the production of that documentary, I'll check to verify that thought.






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The documentary "The John Garfield Story" can be found on the POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE DVD. It was a co-production of TCM and Turner Entertainment Co., the latter entity being owned by Warner Bros.

It's a great documentary, and it does contain an excerpt from THE BREAKING POINT.

George Feltenstein was indeed Executive Producer of the documentary.

A Garfield boxed set would be wonderful, but it would be a tough sell. I doubt it could be profitable for WB.
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Great news and I am off ordering TPART now

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The documentary "The John Garfield Story" can be found on the POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE DVD.

You're right, I forgot all about it being on that dvd. It was last January, when that dvd was released and I only watched the movie back then and not the extras. I recalled Feltenstein's involvement in the documentary from watching the documentary's initial showing on TCM.






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I think Warner is eventually going to release a boxset of Garfield, but probably not before Cagney, Bogart, Flynn, Davis and Gable.


Yes, I figured nothing would happen on this front until a couple of the other big ones were taken care of first. Good to see there is some other interest in a similar set for Garfield. I should have included Humoresque on the initial list. Perhaps this will show up on the inevitable Crawford set. Which films would folks like to see included in a Garfield set?

Any ideas of what might surface on WB's next Gangsters or Noir sets? Perhaps some of Garfield's WB titles, besides Postman, might make the cut? Nobody Lives Forever with Garfield as con man and Geraldine Fitzgerald as prey and The Fallen Sparrow (RKO) with Garfield as a tormented Spanish Civil war veteran are both solid noirs. Out of the Fog has Garfield cast in rare villain role opposite the always fine Ida Lupino. A double bill of 20,000 Years in Sing-Sing with Spencer Tracy and the Garfield remake Castle on the Hudson is something I could envision from WB.

It is too bad that two of his best and most enduring films, Body and Soul and Force of Evil, both originally distributed by United Artists, do not belong to Warners. Artisan has them now and has released two underwhelming discs. Hopefully, Paramount will do right by them when the rights revert to them through Viacom's acquisition of Spelling Entertainment.

Does anyone know if MGM controls Garfield's final film He Ran All the Way (UA)? For the unitiated, it co-stars Shelley Winters and it is quite the swan song--it's never appeared on video, but shows up on TCM quite a bit.
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A double bill of 20,000 Years in Sing-Sing with Spencer Tracy and the Garfield remake Castle on the Hudson is something I could envision from WB.


Tis a shame WB's To Have and Have Not came out before they started adding alternate versions/remakes as extras. A To Have and Have Not/The Breaking Point flipper would be ideal.
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Garfield is one of my favorite actors. My father was a big Garfield fan and he was the one that turned me on to him back in the 1960s. IMO, he's right up there with Cagney and Bogart. His influence on Clift, Newman, Brando, Dean and other method actors can't be overlooked.





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Crawdaddy,

Great to see another big fan of Garfield. It seems a lot of people were turned on to him by an older relative. Someone called him the actor the "baby boomers never knew" and I think that's the main reason for his obscurity among the general public, even among film aficionados. He was just hitting his stride and needed to make a few more solid films, into the mid-late fifties, as Bogart did. A color film also probably would have helped, as we know many people have an unfortunate prejudice about how their films should look. I also can't help but think that the Blacklist had something to do with his being buried and forgotten.

He's a pre-cursor to the Brandos, Clifts, and Deans and, as such, is an enormous influence on the Hoffmans, De Niros, Pacinos, and Penns. He should be more readily acknowledged for the important figure he was and remains in the world of cinema.

Refreshingly, Mark Wahlberg has come out in several interviews professing his great admiration of John Garfield, calling him his favorite actor and recalling how "real" he was in all his performances. Never thought about it before, but there are definitely some similarities in appearance and Wahlberg seems to have taken on some of the Garfield swagger and spirit. Biopic?
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Great quote from Eddie Muller on his San Francisco Film Noir Festival. From a TCM interview:

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TCM: In planning your film festivals, are there any particular titles which have remained elusive and possibly lost which you have tried repeated to find and exhibit?

Muller: There are dozens! A clean 35mm print of Too Late for Tears is my particular obsession. ANY 35mm print of it! I'd love to show that on a big screen with a huge audience, like we did with The Man Who Cheated Himself in San Francisco. We had almost 1,000 in the house for that, and it was great. The next night we showed the only print Warners has of THE BREAKING POINT with John Garfield, but only about 350 people saw it. I wished we could have switched audiences -- THE BREAKING POINT is an incredible film and really deserves to be released on DVD. Warners? You listening?

Eddie Muller TCM Interview

If Eddie Muller is saying it, something must be done.
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I'll second that (or third or fourth it even)!

It's a great film and one of the many Michael Curtiz jewels that are emerging thanks to those greats people at Warner Bros - let's hope it turns up with other great films of theirs such FOUR DAUGHTERS, DAUGHTERS COURAGEOUS and THE SEA WOLF really soon!!!
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It's a great film and one of the many Michael Curtiz jewels that are emerging thanks to those greats people at Warner Bros - let's hope it turns up with other great films of theirs such FOUR DAUGHTERS, DAUGHTERS COURAGEOUS and THE SEA WOLF really soon!!!

You must know something I don't, Sergio. If WB is releasing these Curtiz films which also, of course, feature John Garfield, that is news to me. It's good to see so much support for these films.

Here is a quote from Alan Rode, reporting from the SF Film Noir Festival, at Film Monthly:

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John Garfield was on display at the Palace of Fine Arts on Thursday night. While "Nobody Lives Forever" is a handsome film that highlights the beauty of Geraldine Fitzgerald and the visual magnetism of Garfield, I found that the script lacked the usual élan normally associated with the great crime writer, W.R. Burnett. The new 35 mm print of this film was funded by The Film Noir Foundation as an initial step towards rescuing our film noir heritage from disappearing forever or being solely consigned to DVD/Video.

The second Garfield feature was better. Much better. "The Breaking Point" (1950) was recently resurrected by directors Curtis Hanson and Alexander Payne. For my money, this film is the definitive version of Hemingway's "To Have and Have Not"; easily trumping it's more famous Bogey and Bacall 1944 predecessor. John Garfield simply becomes fishing boat skipper, Henry Morgan, torn up between two women (Patricia Neal as a blond hottie and a lovably dedicated Phyllis Thaxter) and how to feed his family while holding onto to lost dreams. This is unquestionably one of Garfield's best films that should spur a renaissance of interest. Warner's Home DVD: are you listening?

Incidentally, Rode misnamed Garfield's Breaking Point character. It's HARRY Morgan, not Henry. Perhaps he was confused by actor Harry Morgan whose given name is Henry.
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I am very confident that Warners will release a Garfield boxset some time in the near future, maybe in 2007. If so, I'm sure Curtiz directed films will be featured in that boxset, since, Garfield received his big break and had his greatest film success working with this very underrated director.





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I hope you're right, Robert. But, I can't wait much later than '07.
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You must know something I don't, Sergio

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Merely wishful thinking on my part! Or rather, that THE BREAKING POINT is a wonderful Michael Curtiz movie like so many that have been released by WHV recently, like ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES, THE SEA HAWK, YANKEE DOODLE DANDY and MILDRED PIERCE - so hopefully there will be more to come!

What is more, the sterling treatment of PUBLIC ENEMY, the BUSBY BERKELEY collection and the forthcoming release of BABY FACE and NIGHT NURSE there is also hope that some of the earlier, gloriously hyperbolic and top speed films made at Warners during the depression will also soon be available - but that's a totally different thread I'm sure!
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I'm more concerned with "the only print Warners has". It means that the film requires a good deal of restoration before it can be released on DVD, doesn't it?
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What is more, the sterling treatment of PUBLIC ENEMY, the BUSBY BERKELEY collection and the forthcoming release of BABY FACE and NIGHT NURSE there is also hope that some of the earlier, gloriously hyperbolic and top speed films made at Warners during the depression will also soon be available - but that's a totally different thread I'm sure!

I know Baby Face is coming out, but I heard nothing of Night Nurse. When is this being released??

Corey's most wanted R1 dvds:

Little Darlings (1980), My Cousin Rachel (1952), The Deep Blue Sea (1955), The White Cliffs of Dover (1944), Born to Be Bad (1950), Ivy (1947), Reckless (1935), Springtime in the Rockies (1942), The Barretts of Wimpole Street

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Well, 2007 is nearly over and still no formal announcement of The Breaking Point or a John Garfield Signature Collection. The last WB chat promised a Garfield in early '08. Typically, how much lag time is there between an announcement and release date? If an announcement does, by chance, come in December or January, I wonder when we can expect the set to hit shelves.

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I'm more concerned with "the only print Warners has". It means that the film requires a good deal of restoration before it can be released on DVD, doesn't it?

Not necessarily. It likely means simply that there is only one print in circulation (not an uncommon circumstance, I'm sure), but it doesn't say anything about the state of the negative and whether it (the negative) requires any sort of restoration.

Since this title hasn't appeared in of the Noir sets, I'm fairly confident it's being saved for the eventual Garfield set. I was just hoping we'd hear something by the holidays...
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NIGHT NURSE is part of a second FORBIDDEN HOLLYWOOD collection due early next year.
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Reading through this thread early on there was hope for a John Garfield box set in 2007, so obviously that did not happen.

However interestingly the majority of Garfield's films have remained unreleased when some of them could have easily fit into other box sets, such as the Film Noir, Motion Picture Masterpieces or War sets. That still gives me hope there will be a Garfield box set announced for 2008.
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Warners never said it was coming in 2007. At the last chat earlier this year, they said it would be coming in early 2008.

Corey's most wanted R1 dvds:

Little Darlings (1980), My Cousin Rachel (1952), The Deep Blue Sea (1955), The White Cliffs of Dover (1944), Born to Be Bad (1950), Ivy (1947), Reckless (1935), Springtime in the Rockies (1942), The Barretts of Wimpole Street

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Warners never said it was coming in 2007. At the last chat earlier this year, they said it would be coming in early 2008.
That's what they said. However, one of the reasons why Warner or any other studio don't like to give concrete release dates is because certain things have a tendency to come up that delays some titles. I'm not saying this is the case with the John Garfield boxset that I've been pushing for over the last couple of years so don't get nervous yet, but until we see an official release date, I'm not going to get too excited.

With that being said, just read over this post which summarizes the Warner chat along with a direct chat link and you will see that Warner did pretty well for 2007. Sure, they missed out on some titles like L.A. Confidential, The Candidate and Cool Hand Luke for 2007, but for the most part they did deliver on most of the 2007 titles. Just remember that the lack of catalog units sold, changes in marketing schemes, condition of film elements and budgetary concerns can influence changes in DVD release schedules. So, we need to be patient and hope that such influences are held to a minimum while we continue to show Warner that we're still interested in catalog titles by buying enough units to justify future releases.





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Who owns the video rights to HE RAN ALL THE WAY? It was Garfield's last film and remains one of his very best...one never released on video. I suspect it maybe Fox/Sony/MGM/Tom Cruise. If Cruise owns it, I hope they'll bring it out on dvd before he remakes it with Reese Witherspoon in the Shelly Winters part.

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Who owns the video rights to HE RAN ALL THE WAY? It was Garfield's last film and remains one of his very best...one never released on video. I suspect it maybe Fox/Sony/MGM/Tom Cruise. If Cruise owns it, I hope they'll bring it out on dvd before he remakes it with Reese Witherspoon in the Shelly Winters part.

Seems like a good possibility that it is owned by the MGM/UA/Sony/Fox conglomerate. UA did distribute this one theatrically back in '51, but it was produced by Garfield and his partner, Bob Roberts and their company. Not sure where that leaves the ownership of the film, although the UA logo did appear in front of the film when it aired on TCM in the last couple years.
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No announcement of this title yet from Warners, but...

I noticed that in the just-announced Errol Flynn Westerns boxset, the 1950 Flynn Western Rocky Mountain will have a trailer for The Breaking Point included as one of the extra features. Is this reason to hope for a release of that film in the near future? I wouldn't swear to this as a definite pattern, but off the top of my head, I'd say that trailers for other films on Warner classic DVD releases have generally been a decent predictor of those films being in the pipeline for a release of their own.


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No announcement of this title yet from Warners, but...

I noticed that in the just-announced Errol Flynn Westerns boxset, the 1950 Flynn Western Rocky Mountain will have a trailer for The Breaking Point included as one of the extra features. Is this reason to hope for a release of that film in the near future? I wouldn't swear to this as a definite pattern, but off the top of my head, I'd say that trailers for other films on Warner classic DVD releases have generally been a decent predictor of those films being in the pipeline for a release of their own.

We can't say anything is definite, but it (the trailer) is certainly a not a bad development. Eddie Muller has revealed in interviews his excitement over the upcoming John Garfield box set, which, it seems he was influential in getting WHV to release. Muller is also known to be a very big admirer of The Breaking Point, which has gotten very good exposure through his "Noir City" festival, so it would seem to be a fairly good bet that the film will be included in the set whenever it arrives.

Another Garfield film, Dust Be My Destiny, has figured prominently in one of the recent WHV documentaries, either on one of the Noir sets or Gangsters/Tough Guys collections. I can't remember which, but I do recall that it was listed in the credits with other films under the banner, "Available on Warner Home Video DVD," or something to that effect. Dust Be My Destiny, like The Breaking Point, has yet to appear on any home video format.

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Another Garfield film, Dust Be My Destiny, has figured prominently in one of the recent WHV documentaries, either on one of the Noir sets or Gangsters/Tough Guys collections. I can't remember which, but I do recall that it was listed in the credits with other films under the banner, "Available on Warner Home Video DVD," or something to that effect.

Yeah, that's right, it was in at least one of the featurettes in the Tough Guys (aka Gangsters Vol. 2) boxset.


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