Genesis on SACD soon

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9/9/03 at 10:29pm

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I vote for "A Trick of the Tail". This was ment for hi-res 5.1. Hopefully in DVD-A as that's all I'm buying for now. Anyway, I hope more titles are in the works, regardless of format. gene

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9/10/03 at 9:11am

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On the Genesis forum, Nick Davis mentioned "the band" has decided to remix the albums in hi-rez. I wonder who is "the band"? Will PG or Steve be involved with the earlier Genesis hi-rez surround remixing?

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9/23/03 at 4:33pm

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Latest update from Genesis' website...."The Lamb" on hi-rez is set for an "early summer 2004" release. No news on which format though.

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11/7/03 at 2:39pm

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Posted by Nick Davis regarding "The Lamb"....

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it will be a hybrid sacd so it will play on regeular cd players.

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11/7/03 at 5:34pm

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1) Even the stereo version is a remix. Probably the Redbook layer as well.
2) The North American release will almost certainly be DVD-A. The Euro release will be SACD.
3) I'm buying. And if the SACD in Europe comes out first, I'll import.

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12/4/03 at 1:45pm

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Hmmmm....looks like "Invisible Touch" will not make it to SACD/DVD-A anytime soon, according to Genesis engineer Nick Davis. Posted on the Genesis forum on November 8th....

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no plans for remasters of genesis and invisible touch

However, Nick's plans for the near future, as posted on December 2nd....

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i am currently compiling all my lamb album mixes together. that will be it for this year. starting on a trick of the tail in january.

As for whether the new hi-rez discs will be DVD-A and/or SACD....

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as far as i know there will be dvda releases of the sacd material

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12/4/03 at 3:03pm

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I think all the talk about Invisible touch was about the just released DVD of the Invisible Touch tour. I think the plan all along was to release the Gabriel & Hacket era stuff first.

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2/15/04 at 11:25am

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Don't know what's the indication about this, but on Nick Davis' own website, in his "Credits" section, Genesis' "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" is only listed as a SACD. No DVD-A listing. Hmmmmm....

BTW, the work on the multi-channel version of "Tricks of the Tail" is in progress.

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2/15/04 at 11:42am

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Atco/Atlantic are Warner labels. The discs will either come out on DVD-A here (hopefully with rare video footage), or we'll be importing SACDs.

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2/16/04 at 11:01pm

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So do I get the right vibe from the quotes that these re-masters will be encoded with DSD and then the DVD-Audio discs will be DSD to PCM conversions?

Dan

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2/17/04 at 6:33am

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So do I get the right vibe from the quotes that these re-masters will be encoded with DSD and then the DVD-Audio discs will be DSD to PCM conversions?

Dan,

If these are going to be remasters (which usually entails work being done on the original multi-tracks), there is no way they will be encoded in pure DSD. The tools are not there and honestly its not even possible in a true sense. The stations that claim to be pure-DSD are really just PCM-Narrow. Just ask Sony and Universal who source most of their SACD from PCM intermediates even when Analog masters exist.

Also remember most of the Genesis recordings were no doubt originally done at lower bit/sampling rate PCM then what is available today. For those reasons, I would not get too excited about any Hi-res stereo layer for these discs. The benefits provided by remastering would be as apparent on the CD layer as the Hi-res layer, and honestly the CD layer will be truthful to the original masters (no unnecessary upsampling).

DSD is fine as a delivery format and for brand new recordings, but not remastering.

J

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2/17/04 at 7:25am

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Also remember most of the Genesis recordings were no doubt originally done at lower bit/sampling rate PCM then what is available today.

These original Genesis multitracks (Lamb, Tail) are analog.

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3/17/04 at 9:54am

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Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks have given the "thumbs up" to the high-rez 5.1 remix of "The Lamb". Expected release date in May, according to Nick Davis.

Next up, "Tricks of the Tail" on hi-rez.

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4/27/04 at 5:05pm

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According to a new Tony Banks interview, the entire Genesis catalog may get the hi-rez treatment.

Here's the interview .

The hi-rez version of "The Lamb" will be available next month.

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4/28/04 at 9:54am

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The release of the hi-rez version of "The Lamb" may get pushed back, according to Nick Davis. This was posted today on the Genesis forum. Reason? There's a Mike + The Mechanics album being released....

And yes, it's Mike + The Mechanics + Paul Carrack. What's next? Genesis + Phil Collins/Peter Gabriel??

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4/28/04 at 10:37am

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The release of the hi-rez version of "The Lamb" may get pushed back, ... Reason? There's a Mike + The Mechanics album being released....

??? Good grief, there's been such a dearth of Genesis-related material in the past decade - I think we longtime fans can handle buying the hirez "Lamb" AND a new M&M album in the same year...

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4/28/04 at 10:46am

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Mike + The Mechanics is opening for Phil Collins' solo tour in Europe as well.

There's a new Tony Banks classical album released on the NAXOS label.

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4/28/04 at 3:36pm

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A lack of "new" classic Genesis would not compel me to settle for some new solo work by one of the band members, except maybe Peter.

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6/16/04 at 11:01am

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No DVD-A or DualDisc? From today's MusicTAP....

Further word on Genesis' upcoming hi-res issue of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway has it that this issue will not be a DualDisc or DVD-Audio but rather an SACD release. But TLLDoB isn't the only Genesis album that received the 5.1 rework. Word also has it that Trick of the Tail has been reshaped into 5.1. That's good news for Genesis fans. Whether you're Gabriel era fans or post Gabriel fans or even fans of everything Genesis, these upcoming releases ought to have you salivating for not only surround treatments but also spectacular sounding music. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is expected sometime in September while Trick of the Tail should follow soon after. Now for Nursery Crymes and And Then There Were Three and Wuthering Heights and...

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6/16/04 at 11:01am

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No DVD-A or DualDisc? From today's MusicTAP....

Further word on Genesis' upcoming hi-res issue of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway has it that this issue will not be a DualDisc or DVD-Audio but rather an SACD release. But TLLDoB isn't the only Genesis album that received the 5.1 rework. Word also has it that Trick of the Tail has been reshaped into 5.1. That's good news for Genesis fans. Whether you're Gabriel era fans or post Gabriel fans or even fans of everything Genesis, these upcoming releases ought to have you salivating for not only surround treatments but also spectacular sounding music. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is expected sometime in September while Trick of the Tail should follow soon after. Now for Nursery Crymes and And Then There Were Three and Wuthering Heights and...

SACD not listed at sa-cd.net (updated 8/26/2009)

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6/16/04 at 11:10am

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That (Trick of the Tail) is really old news, and the Genesis camp has already said to look for a DVD-A in North America. I'm sure some DVD-A bashers would love to see WEA release a Genesis SACD, but it's not going to happen. MusicTap needs to start reporting real news.

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6/16/04 at 11:10am

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That (Trick of the Tail) is really old news, and the Genesis camp has already said to look for a DVD-A in North America. I'm sure some DVD-A bashers would love to see WEA release a Genesis SACD, but it's not going to happen. MusicTap needs to start reporting real news.

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6/16/04 at 11:16am

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Now for Nursery Crymes and And Then There Were Three and Wuthering Heights and...

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MusicTap needs to start reporting real news.

They need to get the titles right too. It's "Nursery Cryme" and "Wind & Wuthering". "Wuthering Heights"...

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6/16/04 at 11:16am

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Now for Nursery Crymes and And Then There Were Three and Wuthering Heights and...

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MusicTap needs to start reporting real news.

They need to get the titles right too. It's "Nursery Cryme" and "Wind & Wuthering". "Wuthering Heights"...

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6/16/04 at 12:11pm

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Well give them credit for at least getting official word that Lamb Lies Down will be on Super Audio. This is terrific news!

Mike, I would be surprised that Genesis would release one album in Super Audio and not follow through in the same format for other titles, unless of course they do both formats.

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6/16/04 at 12:11pm

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Well give them credit for at least getting official word that Lamb Lies Down will be on Super Audio. This is terrific news!

Mike, I would be surprised that Genesis would release one album in Super Audio and not follow through in the same format for other titles, unless of course they do both formats.

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6/16/04 at 12:17pm

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Mike, I would be surprised that Genesis would release one album in Super Audio and not follow through in the same format for other titles, unless of course they do both formats.

They won't switch from title to title. For the time being, they'll all be SACD in Europe and DVD-A in North America. This is what their own engineer/producer has said to expect.

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6/16/04 at 12:17pm

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Mike, I would be surprised that Genesis would release one album in Super Audio and not follow through in the same format for other titles, unless of course they do both formats.

They won't switch from title to title. For the time being, they'll all be SACD in Europe and DVD-A in North America. This is what their own engineer/producer has said to expect.

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6/16/04 at 12:49pm

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For the time being, they'll all be SACD in Europe and DVD-A in North America.

Did I misread Music Tap? They did not mention SACDs being only in Europe....were they wrong in their reporting?

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6/16/04 at 12:49pm

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For the time being, they'll all be SACD in Europe and DVD-A in North America.

Did I misread Music Tap? They did not mention SACDs being only in Europe....were they wrong in their reporting?

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