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Oh No, The Rock Up for Shazam!?

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6.23.03
By Devin Faraci
Contributing sources: Peppermint Patty

A scooper who I shall hereby name Peppermint Patty has sent us a tidbit about Warner Bros further attempting to fuck up a potential superhero franchise with piss poor casting. The scooper tells us that there has been an increase in interest in the Warners halls of power in regards to a possible SHAZAM! movie, including talk about a script and a possible star. In this case the star they are looking at is wrestling superstar The Rock, who couldn't be more wrong for this part.

In case you aren't familiar with the SHAZAM! (Captain Marvel) mythos, our hero is Billy Batson, a 12 year old paperboy who shouts the word "Shazam" to become the heavily muscled adult superhero Captain Marvel. The thing about Marvel is that he retains Batson's 12 year old mind, and so is naïve, innocent and goodnatured. It's hard to imagine The Rock as anything other than cocky, snotty and wooden. He would make for a decent Black Adam, Captain Marvel's centuries old foe, who looks pretty much just like him but with pointy ears and a black costume.

Of course this is only a rumor at this point, and even if it's true that these talks are going on at the studio, our scooper tells us that the execs are worried about stealing the thunder from the ever in development Superman film, worried that the two characters are too alike. There's some truth to that as, back in the prehistory of superhero comics, DC sued the shit out of Captain Marvel publisher Fawcett comics for infringing on their Superman trademarks with the character. http://www.chud.com/news/june03/jun23shazam.php3


Here we go again with trendy casting, I will skip this movie if the Rock is cast as Captain Marvel.

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For some reason, I have no problem with this casting.

I'd like to see any Captain Marvel movie (it's the guys name! Shazam is the frickin' wizard...) take place in the 1940s as an art-deco period piece, complete with Dr. Sivana as the evil genius super-villain and Black Adam as the muscle.

Captain Marvel has always been a light-hearted comic/superhero, and if they play it correctly (i.e. they don't make it lame and cheesy), this could be a good film.

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Geez, let's see what Mr. Johnson can do before dismissing him out of hand. It's not like he's had a lot of chances to demonstrate his range yet, but I seem to recall him being pretty likable when he guested on That 70s Show. Besides, the real trick will be casting Billy.

Anyway, like Ashton Kutcher as Batman, the guy's filmography isn't nearly long enough yet to assume we've seen all he's capable of and pre-emptively declare him a disaster.
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The Rock really looks like Captain Marvel! No Thanx!

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I hope this turns out to be very untrue. The Rocks acting is very over-rated, IMO, he wasn't too great in Scorpion King, OK acting at best. He has no superhero vibes what so ever, he'd be as big a super hero disaster as George Clooney was as Batman.

I would like to see this movie, though. But i'm sure they can do better than The Rock on a lead role.
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The Rock looks the part, aside from not being white. I'm just glad they're making a Captain Marvel movie.
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Thats news I didnt need to hear today.


What an uninspired choice. Is this to bring the wrestling fans in???????
If thats who they want to please, I have no interest in seeing this movie.
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The thing about Marvel is that he retains Batson's 12 year old mind,



Well, the Rock would fit the bill in this area.


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How did Scorpion King do? Did that attract millions & millions of the Rock's fans?

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How did Scorpion King do? Did that attract millions & millions of the Rock's fans?
$90 million domestic. No great shakes, but far, far from a flop.

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Finally. Shaq never really had the dramatic range to bring the incredible potential a rapping genie could offer to the cinematic world. I think the Rock will easily be able to convey the pathos and ennui of the character.

Ohhhhhhhh...Shazam. :b
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My pick would be Evan Marriott (Joe Millionaire) for Captain Marvel.

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Evan Marriott does look like him and apparently has some acting ability. None of his stuff has been released yet, AFAIK, so I'm not sure how good he is.
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See? Ok, also recently, I believe it was CHUD that ran a rumor about The Rock being cast as Captain Marvel in the SHAZAM! movie that William Goldman has scripted for New Line. I saw this being addressed on Filmforce and it put the fear of fucking god into me. I was terrified, cuz I don't want to be seeing The Rock as the Big Red Cheese, and don't worry... none of us will. It isn't true. Sources within New Line tell me it isn't so. So consider that rumor debunked...
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=15550

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Sorry Double
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WB can do NOTHING except fuck up their superhero properties?The current Superman disaster,Punk'd guy as Batman, JLO as Wonderwoman,etc


Jeez!!

How do these people get and keep their jobs?!?!?

Off the top of my head - heres a better pick

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Patrick "The Tick" Warburton seems perfect for the role, but is there really a market for a Captain Marvel movie? Since it was a pretty goofy comic book, wouldn't a movie either, a) be pretty goofy, or b) tick off fans for being untrue to the comic book?

Apologies to the Captain Marvel fans if my characterization of the comic book is wrong, but wasn't one of Captain Marvel's main villains a worm? I'm no CM expert, obviously.

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Read "Shazam!Power Of Hope".

Written by Paul Dini and beautifully painted by Alex Ross. You can get it on Amazon.You can see a sample here. Just go to the bottom of the page and click on Oversized Graphic Novels, then Shazam!Power Of Hope.http://www.alexrossart.com/archives.html

Read "Kingdom Come" too - the showdown with Superman is fantastic.

Both are really great portrayals of Capt Marvel/Shazam.
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Apologies to the Captain Marvel fans if my characterization of the comic book is wrong, but wasn't one of Captain Marvel's main villains a worm?
It all depends what you do with it. Jerry Ordway made Mr. Mind into a pretty convincing villain during his run on "The Power Of Shazam!"

A lot of the trappings of Captain Marvel are goofy, but part of the character's appeal is that he is this very likable, wide-eyed kid who triumphs over real adversity. Mr. Mind is a worm, yes, but he certainly caused a lot of chaos before Marvel stopped him. It's a superhero comic that's willing to embrace the genre's absurdity.
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Patrick "The Tick" Warburton seems perfect for the role, but is there really a market for a Captain Marvel movie? Since it was a pretty goofy comic book, wouldn't a movie either, a) be pretty goofy, or b) tick off fans for being untrue to the comic book?

The original is pretty goofy. Modern mainstream DC comics try to tone that down a bit by having him team with others outside the Marvel group (e.g., the JSA, as opposed to the talking tiger that walks on two feet).

There's a dark takeoff -- Alan Moore's "Miracleman". In it, the British government uses alien technology to turn humans into super-powered weapons. It brainwashes the test subjects into believing they are superheroes living in a black-and-white world as a way to control them. Later it tries to scrap the project by murdering them. Some of them survive the attempt, recover their powers, and figure out the truth.

Then the story begins...

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Apologies to the Captain Marvel fans if my characterization of the comic book is wrong, but wasn't one of Captain Marvel's main villains a worm? I'm no CM expert, obviously.

In the old comics, I think that was the case. Of course, it was an alien worm with mind control powers. So it could do things like taking over people who had access to nuclear weapons.
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As a kid, I had a small crush on Mary Marvel, especially how Kurt Schaffenberger drew her.

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From writer/director John August's blog.

johnaugust.com Shazam! It ain’t happening.

Shazam! It ain’t happening.

Before the holidays, I promised a post-mortem on Shazam!, the big-screen adaptation of the DC comic I’ve been working on since early 2007. In case you’re not familiar with the character, here’s what I wrote when I first announced the project:

Captain Marvel is a superhero roughly as powerful as Superman, minus the heat-vision and cold breath. What’s unique about the character is that in ordinary life, he’s teenager Billy Batson. Speaking the name of the wizard who gave him his powers (Shazam) calls down a magic thunderbolt, transforming him into the studly superhero. But he’s still a teenager in there.

If this to you sounds, “Like Big, but with superpowers,” then congratulations! You now understand Hollywood.
So that you may further understand Hollywood, let me briefly fill you in on what’s happened in the meantime.

I wrote a draft for New Line. Around the time I turned it in, there was a lot of speculation about whether New Line would continue to remain in business, but there was enough enthusiasm that the mini-studio ran the numbers and considered going into production before a potential actors’ strike. (The WGA strike hadn’t yet happened, but it looked inevitable.) Director Pete Segal was busy on Get Smart, costarring Dwayne Johnson, and rumors began building that The Rock would play Black Adam. A lot of people liked that idea, me included.

I would describe this draft as a comedy with a lot of action. It mostly centers on Billy Batson getting and learning how to use his powers, and discovering what happened to his parents that left him an orphan. One of the appeals of the project is that Billy is a comic book hero who actually reads comic books. Black Adam ultimately becomes the adversary, but he works much like Voldemort in the Harry Potter movies — a dark force to battle at the end, not a constant presence throughout. I wrote the draft I had pitched, and was very happy with how it turned out.

I got notes from New Line and the producers — mostly about set pieces, and keeping Black Adam from becoming too sympathetic — but before I could get started, the WGA went on strike. I couldn’t write, nor did I talk to anyone involved for 100 days.

When the strike was over, Shazam! was suddenly a Warner Bros. movie.1 The new executive at Warners said he agreed with the New Line notes, and told the producers I should go ahead with my rewrite. We weren’t on the official production schedule, but there were discussions about budgets and timelines. We were definitely Pete Segal’s next movie, and many of the stories coming out of the press junkets for Get Smart were about Shazam.

When we turned the new draft in to the studio, we got a reaction that made me wonder if anyone at Warners had actually read previous drafts or the associated notes. The studio felt the movie played too young. They wanted edgier. They wanted Billy to be older. They wanted Black Adam to appear much earlier.

(I pointed out that Black Adam appears on page one, but never got a response.)

I expressed my frustration that I’d wasted months of my time and a considerable amount of the studio’s money on things that should have been discussed at the outset. I asked for a meeting with the executive in charge. He and I had one phone call, then I got a new set of notes that didn’t gibe with what we had discussed. (The written studio notes, I will say, were well-considered. I disagreed with the direction they were taking the movie, but they were thorough and self-consistent.)

In retrospect, I can point to two summer Warner Bros. movies that I believe defined the real issue at hand: Speed Racer and The Dark Knight. The first flopped; the second triumphed. Given only those two examples, one can understand why a studio might wish for their movies to be more like the latter. But to do so ignores the success of Iron Man, which spent most of its running time as a comedic origin story, and the even more pertinent example of WB’s own Harry Potter series. I tried to make this case, to no avail.

I was under contract to deliver one more draft. So I took them at their (written) word and delivered what they said they wanted: a much harder movie, with a lot more Black Adam. This wasn’t “Big, with super powers” anymore. It was Black Adam versus Captain Marvel, with a considerable push into dark territory and liminal badlands like Nanda Parbat. It wasn’t the action-comedy I’d signed on to write, but it was a movie I could envision getting made. The producer and director liked it, and turned it in to the studio while I was in France.

By the time I got back, the project was dead.

By “dead,” I mean that it won’t be happening. I don’t think it’s on the studio’s radar at all. It may come back in another incarnation, with another writer, but I can say with considerable certainty that it won’t be the version I developed.2

Yes, that sucks. And obviously, I can only share my interpretation of what transpired. There were dozens of meetings and phone calls in which I had no participation. As a reader, you should certainly consider the possibility that I wrote shitty scripts they simply didn’t want to make. Because Warners controls copyright on them, I can’t put them in the Library for you to read yourself. So you have to decide whether to take my word on it.

The larger point of this retelling is to help readers understand that at every level in a screenwriter’s career, there are projects that simply don’t happen, mostly for reasons you couldn’t anticipate at the outset. I’ve had good experiences at Warner Bros. (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride) and bad experiences (Tarzan, Barbarella). My next movie is at that studio, so while I’m frustrated by the way they handled this project, I have no axe to grind. When they have a movie they want and support, they’re top-notch.

I got paid well to write Shazam, and I get to keep that money. The real cost is an opportunity cost — the other projects I could have written that might be in production now. More than anything, that’s one of the reasons production rewrites are so appealing to established writers: you know those movies are going to get made.

Also softening the blow is that I’m already writing a new project, one I might have had to pass up if Shazam had dragged on any further. The first half of 2009 is going to be very busy. So while I’ll miss Shazam, and the movie it could have been, I won’t feel too bad if this is the last post I ever write about it.

Warners has a relationship with DC Comics that goes beyond the corporate kinship with New Line, so they apparently could have gotten involved even if New Line had remained separate. ↩
Keep in mind that press releases often have little relationship to reality. The same week I found out that Shazam! was dead, Variety and several online news outlets ran stories about Pete Segal’s new overall deal with Warners, which highlighted Shazam! as his next project. I got several “Congratulations!” emails. ↩

Ouch.

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"But to do so ignores the success of Iron Man, which spent most of its running time as a comedic origin story, and the even more pertinent example of WB’s own Harry Potter series. I tried to make this case, to no avail."

Iron Man was a "comedic origin story"? It certainly had some funny elements in it.. but comedic? A man who gets kidnapped by terrorists and is forced to build a weapon of mass destruction for them?
Also, Harry Potter has become pretty dark in its own right. I don't exactly see John August's point about it being a comedy as I wouldn't choose to use that term to describe Iron Man nor Harry Potter.
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I'd like to see any Captain Marvel movie (it's the guys name! Shazam is the frickin' wizard...)

Trademark issue. When Capt. Marvel was in limbo because of DC's lawsuit against Fawcett over copyright infringement (they incredibly made the case that goofy CM was a direct rip-off of Superman) the copyrights and trademarks lapsed. In the 60s Marvel comics came up with their own "Captain Marvel" character and gave him a self-titled book. By the time Fawcett and DC finally worked out a deal (which left DC owning the original CM), they could still use the character name but could no longer name a comic book (or a film adaptation ) after him. Hence, "Shazam!" (Which is NOT the wizard's name when you include the exclamation mark. Then it is strictly the thing Billy shouts to transform.)

Anyway, the only actor who was ever really "right" for the part is Fred McMurray.







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Anyway, the only actor who was ever really "right" for the part is Fred McMurray.







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Joe

Heh that's cheating, will anyone else know why you mentioned Fred Mcmurray?

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Finally. Shaq never really had the dramatic range to bring the incredible potential a rapping genie could offer to the cinematic world. I think the Rock will easily be able to convey the pathos and ennui of the character.

Ohhhhhhhh...Shazam. :b

Alex, perfect.
I actually was wondering why they were remaking that stupid old Shaq movie.
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